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U.S. Considering 'Odious Debt' Doctrine for Iraq
Reuters ^ | 04-29-03

Posted on 04/29/2003 9:13:44 AM PDT by Brian S

Tue April 29, 2003 11:26 AM ET By Alan Elsner WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Some in the U.S. administration are pushing to invoke a controversial financial doctrine to free Iraq from a mountain of debt amassed by Saddam Hussein but if history is any indicator it appears unlikely.

With Iraqi debt restructuring or forgiveness now a major issue in the effort to rebuild the country, the idea to declare the hundreds of billions of dollars owed to foreign creditors as "odious debt" is being promoted by some conservatives in the Bush administration.

The "odious debt" doctrine holds that obligations incurred by "repugnant" governments should not be passed on to their successors. But, while enunciated more than a century ago, it has never been endorsed in international law and strong resistance is likely to emerge in Iraq's case as well.

Harvard University economist Michael Kremer said the Iraqis could make a case for the relief in light of the tremendous debt amassed by Saddam.

"The Iraqi people have a strong case to argue that much of that money was spent lining the pockets of Saddam and his cronies and on banned weapons and on their own repression so they should not have to pay it back," Kremer said.

He suggested an international organization be set up to declare regimes as "odious" as a way of warning potential lenders they might not be repaid if the repressive government is eventually replaced.

EXACT DEBT UNKNOWN

Nobody knows exactly how much oil-rich Iraq owes now that Saddam has been deposed but it could be as high as $385 billion -- including loans from foreign governments, banks, companies and institutions, compensation claims and pending contracts.

According to one study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies, Iraq owes $199 billion in unresolved claims for compensation from creditors in more than a dozen nations arising from the 1990 invasion of Kuwait; $127 billion of debts owed to other nations, and $57.2 billion in pending foreign contracts both public and private.

Other sources give slightly differing figures, depending on how they calculate interest, since Iraq has not been servicing most of its external obligations for more than a decade.

Major debtors include Russia, which has an estimated $12 billion outstanding, much of it for arms; Kuwait, $17 billion, the Gulf states, $30 billion, and smaller sums to Turkey, Jordan, Morocco, Hungary, Bulgaria, Poland and Egypt.

The United States has only around $2 billion outstanding, making it vastly easier for Washington to back calls for debt relief or forgiveness since it is talking mainly about other peoples' money.

U.S. Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz, one of the key architects of the war, told a U.S. Senate committee earlier this month that Russia, France and Germany should consider writing off "some or all of the debt" facing Iraq's new government.

"I hope ... they will think about the very large debts that come from money that was lent to the dictator to buy weapons and to build palaces and to building instruments of repression," Wolfowitz said.

The doctrine of "odious debt" originated in 1898, after the Spanish-American War. During peace negotiations, the United States argued neither it nor Cuba should be held responsible for debt the former Spanish colonial rulers of the island incurred without the consent of the Cuban people, which was not used for their benefit.

Spain refused to accept the validity argument but ultimately assumed the debt. But the doctrine did not acquire international legitimacy since it would have opened the way for many governments to try to evade debts accumulated by their predecessors.

In recent times, the doctrine was not applied after the fall of the apartheid government in South Africa or the collapse of the Soviet Union. In those cases and others, the successor governments took responsibility for the "odious debts" left by their predecessors.

Still, forgiving or restructuring Iraqi debts may be seen as more pressing since Iraq's obligations amount to more than 12 times the country's annual gross domestic product of around $30 billion.

After the First World War, Germany was saddled with reparations totaling about twice its gross domestic product. The debts proved to be an impossible burden, destabilizing the country and contributing to the rise of Nazism.

"It is extremely important that most of Iraq's oil resources are reinvested back into the country to give the Iraqi people and the Iraqi economy a chance," said Nancy Geenan, who from 1998-99 worked for the United Nations Compensation Commission that handled claims arising from the 1990 Iraqi invasion of Kuwait and the subsequent war.

Geenan said currently 30 percent of Iraq's oil revenues allowed under the U.N. oil-for-food program went to repay those claims.

Even if there is wide agreement that Iraq's debt needs to be reduced, some countries and creditors seem certain to argue strongly it should not be entirely eliminated.

The Paris Club -- a forum in which 19 creditor nations have negotiated the rescheduling of debt repayments since Argentina's debt crisis in 1956 -- broached the issue of Iraqi debt during regular talks in the French capital last week.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: bushdoctrineunfold; debt; interimauthority; odiousdebt; postwariraq
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I want me one of those "odious debt doctrines". I deem all my debts "ODIOUS"!!!
1 posted on 04/29/2003 9:13:45 AM PDT by Brian S
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To: Brian S
LOL!!! Does that mean my Visa card debt has automagickally vanished?? I want some, I want some!!! :)
2 posted on 04/29/2003 9:15:02 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Brian S
One positive side effect of this doctrine would be that people would be less likely to loan money to odious militarized dictators in the future.
3 posted on 04/29/2003 9:18:58 AM PDT by John H K
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To: Brian S
Adopting this for Iraq means __(I can't think of a polite word) such countries as France, Germany, Russia, and others who didn't help us but turn out to be doing business with Saddam, out of many millions of dollars. Serves 'em right.
4 posted on 04/29/2003 9:19:56 AM PDT by DonQ
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To: Brian S
I was stuck with a bunch of credit card run up by my ex. Since I definately consider her a hostile regime, I should have been relieved of that odious debt.
5 posted on 04/29/2003 9:19:58 AM PDT by consultant
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To: Brian S
Good ol' Reuters.
"...the idea to declare the hundreds of billions of dollars owed to foreign creditors as "odious debt" is being promoted by some conservatives in the Bush administration."

Can you imagine them ever writing:

"...the idea to declare the hundreds of billions of dollars owed to foreign creditors as "odious debt" is being promoted by some liberals in the DemocratX administration." ?

It just wouldn't happen.

6 posted on 04/29/2003 9:24:28 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Brian S
If a country lends money, in the hope of making money, to a tyrant--let them be bankrupted creditors. Hope Chiraq is having some sleepless nights over this suggestion. The people of Iraq did not borrow this money, Saddam did.
7 posted on 04/29/2003 9:26:59 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Brian S
This is a bad idea. They should be allowed to collect these debts.

Whose signature was on the paperwork? Saddam's? They should be able to collect from him.

Wait. He's dead? Nevermind.

8 posted on 04/29/2003 9:30:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot
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To: Brian S
They should repudiate the debt and declare they won't pay. They can then sell oil and operate on a "cash and carry" basis. What is their downside -- that the French, Germans, and Russians won't do business with them? That the same won't buy their goods (eg. oil)? Yeah, right.
9 posted on 04/29/2003 9:34:32 AM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
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To: Yardstick
"...the idea to declare the hundreds of billions of dollars owed to foreign creditors as "odious debt" is being promoted by some liberals in the DemocratX administration." ? It just wouldn't happen.

Of course not, in part because DemocratX would be wanting to forgive debt owed to the American Taxpayer, not debt owed by odious socialist dictators.

Just because a new government governs the same territory as an old one doesn't neccessarily mean it's the same entity. Russia kept lots of old commies in place, and not just the peon level ones either. Will Saddam's thugs be kept around in the new government? I don't think so. The new government is not merely a slightly modified continuation of the old one, but an entirely new entity. Why should it deprive it's people some more, to pay the costs of their own enslavement. Let the Arab fatcats pay the debt to nations and individuals outside the region, and forgive that owned to them. Repudiation of these debts could be looked on a form of declaring bankrupcy I suppose, but I prefer to look on it as I describe above.

In the case of debts run up by one's ex, one at least theoretically was a party to the actions that resulted in the debt, I don't see how debts for Saddams Palaces, his missles and his WMDs are the responsibility of the Iraqi people. The Russians/Soviets, the French and the Germans knew what sort of person they were advancing credit to, let them eat the debt, just a lenders have to eat bad loans here.

10 posted on 04/29/2003 9:34:44 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Toddsterpatriot
I think they should equally adopt an ODOROUS plan as well - that involving people tied so tightly to Saddam who literally, physically STINK, specifically the French (and they do stink!)
11 posted on 04/29/2003 9:36:46 AM PDT by Steven W.
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To: John H K; Brian S; *Bush Doctrine Unfold; randita; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie; okie01; socal_parrot; ...
One positive side effect of this doctrine would be that people would be less likely to loan money to odious militarized dictators in the future.

Would make the world a safer place.

We should make it part of the new doctrine:

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12 posted on 04/29/2003 9:41:53 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam? and where is Tom Daschle?)
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To: Brian S
Knowing Reuters, we are probably getting about 1% of what is happening here.

The remaining 99% is typical Reuters BS!
13 posted on 04/29/2003 9:45:35 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: Brian S
I don't care what the Paris club says, nor about the "Odious" doctrine. I think the new Iraqi government should look at the debts, and what they were used for. If they feel it was legitimately used for a proper government function, they should honor it. If it wasn't (to include the arms used to repress them...ie Russia's tanks) then they should default on it. They don't need anyone's permission...just refuse to pay them back. Heck, the Russians defaulted on some of their debt fairly recently, and the Soviets defaulted on the Czarist debt.
14 posted on 04/29/2003 9:51:34 AM PDT by blanknoone
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To: Brian S
If Reuters says we won't do it, we will.
15 posted on 04/29/2003 9:54:39 AM PDT by Thud
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To: blanknoone
Yes, the Russian example is misplaced. They did not repudiate their debt in 1991. Instead, they borrowed more and more Western money before devaluing and defaulting in 1998.
16 posted on 04/29/2003 9:59:18 AM PDT by Stingray51
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To: Brian S
It seems just so wrong that a group of people that were literally held hostage should now be responsible for the debts of the dictator.

Those who commented above are absolutely right... Iraq claiming this as odious debt would make it more risky for greedy governments to support dictators in other countries.
17 posted on 04/29/2003 9:59:53 AM PDT by Tamzee (I wondered why somebody didn't do something. Then I realized... I am somebody! - Anonymous)
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To: Brian S
Maybe bringing this up is a brilliant move on Bush's part to get the sanctions lifted off of Iraq.
18 posted on 04/29/2003 10:02:10 AM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: blanknoone
As you say, the new Iraqi government won't need anyone's permission to repudiate those odious debts.

Chiraq and his cronies can suckez la air!
19 posted on 04/29/2003 10:11:40 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: Brian S
There are ways and ways of doing this. I agree that they should honor legitimate debts. And I agree that they should repudiate illegitimate debts.

When France and Russia sold them weapons in the past ten years, they violated the sanctions and international law. Illegal debt is clearly uninforceable.

As for the rest of the questionable, they can treat it case by case. They can simply neglect to repay it, and let the creditors go beg for it. They don't need trade with France or Russia.

Or they can strike deals--90% writedowns and the like, with countries that want to resume trade in the future.

They want to avoid a situation where nobody at all will lend them more money. I think that can be avoided without paying all of these debts in full.
20 posted on 04/29/2003 10:15:54 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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