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Neal Boortz and ADD
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Posted on 04/29/2003 8:40:41 AM PDT by Houmatt

The following are short pieces recently written by Neal Boortz regarding Attention Deficit Disorder and Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, appearing in Neal's Nuze:

DON’T PAY ATTENTION TO THIS. JUST KEEP DRUGGING YOUR KIDS.

More and more medical and psychological professionals are speaking out against this phony disease of attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD). Dr. Bob Jacobs, a psychologist, is on the advisory board of the International Center for the Study of Psychiatry and Psychology. He recently told a conference in Australia that ADHD is a behavioral problem, not a medical disorder. He correctly points out that there is no proof that ADHD exists.

Jacobs notes that many children who are “diagnosed” with ADHD – children who it is said can’t pay attention – are perfectly capable of sitting still with a video game and paying rapt attention for hours on end. He also points out that when parents pay attention and change the way they are treating and handling their children, the ADHD symptoms go away. “A real diseas doesn’t go away when somebody else does something.”

I just love it that this debate is surfacing again. Sure, Ritalin works. It’s a drug, of course it’s going to have an affect on children. It makes them more docile and compliant. Take that word “compliant” and put it next to “government.” Would anyone argue that government doesn’t just love a compliant citizen? Then why wouldn’t a government school teacher love a docile and compliant child? It sure makes their job easier, doesn’t it?

In 2001 U.S. drug companies made more than $600 million profit in ADHD drugs like Ritalin. If ADHD goes away … so do those profits.

It’s time for you parents and teachers to stop looking for the easy way out here. Your easy way out is a potential disaster for your child.

I’M STILL HERE …

The controversy over my comments on ADD/ADHD continues. Station management continues to feel the effects of an organized campaign to have me either silenced or fired. Hey, I don’t blame these people. If I was drugging my child for a non-existent disease I wouldn’t want anyone reminding me of my irresponsibility either.

Just to fuel the fire, here are some excerpts from letters and e-mail I’ve received in the last few days:

I am a Special Education teacher in Kansas --anti-NEA, extremely conservative: endangered species. Agree with you on ADHD. Problem - liberals insist all students with behavior problems have the right to disrupt the education of others, so meds used to control behaviors. In Kansas, ADHD students receive special education services under the label of Otherwise Health Impaired (OHI). Some of us know that OHI really stands for Otherwise HOME Impaired. Please do not use my name publicly -- retaliation from liberal dominated administration probable

Before you delete this please read on. I am ecstatic on your position on add and ADHD. I have a son that was so diagnosed, they, she who is always right, put him on Ritalin. it is a devastating drug, they are doped up and not themselves. Chris is adopted has a handicap and parents that care. i took on the problem, the problem was not a condition it was a matter of wills. i withdrew him from the medication and worked my ass off making the difference. Neal is right, get off the medication, instill confidence, give a damn about how they behave and stand firm. today my son has a 4.0 average in his junior year of high school and has been accepted to Penn State, will get a partial scholarship and is a GREAT KID. Not bad for someone the system wanted to put into a stupor. Dad's can make a difference, although you may not be the most popular guy around. God Bless

Man, when your right your right! The stories that I could tell you about my ex-wife and hooking my son on this drug since he was two are unbelievable. Parents and teachers are not alone in this. Doctors who are prescribing this and other mind altering drugs are the number one problem. My ex-wife found a doctor in Miami that did "testing" on my son only by giving him some blocks to assemble, and when my son started looking around instead of putting all of the blocks in place that was it, instant A.D.H.D. Oh yeah, this boy was not only A.D.D. He was hyper as well.(here's a clue HE'S TWO YEARS OLD!!) Needless to say this eventually lead to our divorce, but to make matters worse, there are judges out there who believe this crap also, so I did not get custody. He's now 15 and my Ex-wife and I have another court appointment to settle this issue.

AND NOW --- INTRODUCING YOU TO “ODD!”

This will be the next great fad disease for school age children. Oppositional Defiance Disorder. The “ODD child” is a child that gets angry or frustrated and defies authority. In other words … a child. He argues with adults, he loses his temper, he has a negative attitude, he blames others for his mistakes. Teachers.net has a chatboard discussing this grand new disease. One post by a teacher says: “Today was a really bad day. I have been teaching grade seven for four years and today was the first time I was called a "Whore," by a kid who has Oppositional Defiance Disorder.”

Stand by folks, this is soon going to become a full-fledged disease and some drug company is going to develop some mind-altering drug that will make these kids compliant and passive. Oh man, are the parents going to love this one. Here’s a link on this new fad-disease so you can start getting your excuses ready. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Valley/9346/odd.html

http://www.4troubledteens.com/odd.html

ADEQUATE DICIPLINE DEFICIENCY

There’s been quite a firestorm of controversy on the show since I started talking about the various experts who are debunking the ADD/ADHD craze. We had Dr. Bob Jackobs, a psychologist, telling a youth conference in Queensland, Australia that there has never been any proof that ADHD exists. Then there was neurologist Dr. Fred Baughman Jr. who, in a 1998 letter to Attorney General Janet Reno called ADHD “the single biggest health care fraud in U.S. history.” This has all been very unsettling to parents who have decided that drugging is certainly easier than parenting when it comes to controlling the behavior of their children. These parents really know that ADD stands for “Adequate Dicipline Deficiency.”

But, alas! There are many parents out there who have been unable to find a doctor or a shrink who will write that invaluable Ritalin prescription. Wow! You poor saps have actually had to deal with your children being … children!

Well, maybe there’s hope. There’s a new disease on the horizon out there. It’s called ODD! Oppositional Defiance Disorder? With any luck, your child may have this nifty new disease! As a public service, here is some help diagnosing your very own child to see if they might have ODD! The symptoms are:

Arguing with adults. Losing temper. Angry or resentful of others. Actively defies adult’s request or rules. Negative attitude Blames others for their own mistakes misbehavior Seems touchy or easily annoyed by others Deliberately annoys others Acts spiteful or vindictive. The psychiatrists are telling us that if your child displays four or more of the above traits … you may be a winner! You may have a child with ODD! Now you don’t have to feel so left out when the neighborhood moms get together to discuss their children’s afflictions. Looking at that list again, I would suggest that if your child doesn’t display at least four of those traits, he’s probably in a coma on a respirator.

Now … the really good news! The Psychiatric Alliance of the Blue Ridge is studying an “investigational medication” that may help children with ODD! So, in the very near future you may not only be able to discuss your child’s hideous new disease, you may actually be able to DRUG him!


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KEYWORDS: add; adhd; cocaine; drugs; hyperactivity; maledomination; ritalin; scam; sham; teachersagainstboys; zerotolerance
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To: TheWillardHotel
ADD/ADHD is a horrible fraud.

I take that as an insult to my Daughter (takes off gaunlets and strikes TheWillardHotel across both sides of his face) I call you to a duel!

181 posted on 04/29/2003 12:04:48 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
I take that as an insult to my Daughter (takes off gaunlets and strikes TheWillardHotel across both sides of his face) I call you to a duel!

I'm afraid you'll have to stand in line .... right after me ... not joking either

182 posted on 04/29/2003 12:08:42 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797
I'm afraid you'll have to stand in line ....

Story of my life :) Just leave a bit of him that can give me some competition, for sport of course.

183 posted on 04/29/2003 12:11:25 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: need_a_screen_name
Yet nobody thinks it's a problem that routine screening for high blood pressure has produced a big increase in the use of hypertension medicine.

That's an easy straw man to shoot down. Are the symptoms for high blood pressure as non-specific as the catch-all symptoms for ADHD? Is the probability that a diagnosis of high blood pressure is a correct diagnosis comparable in any way to the probability that an ADHD diagnosis is actually correct? I doubt it.

And I say that in full knowledge that I exhibit several of the symptoms that are typically classed as adult-ADHD-related. I associate many of those so-called symptoms with my inbuilt creativity (and even brilliance at times), and I shudder to think of what my life might have been like if my parents had decided to treat those symptoms with drugs in order to turn me into a "normal" student.

184 posted on 04/29/2003 12:12:16 PM PDT by The Electrician
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To: Houmatt
" And I know I am going to be flamed like crazy for believing this, so have at me"

Not from me! If I was 15 right now, instead of 61, I would be forced by the very teachers that bored the sh!t out of me to take unwanted and harmful meds. Fortunately, I was not subjected to that particular form of child abuse.

I readily admit my problems as a child. I still find it difficult to concentrate on some things for any great length of time. I AM capable of watching TV (and keeping up with the plot), talking on the phone (and keeping up with the conversation) typing on the comuter (and making some sense) and listening to Rush (as I am right now).

ADD, my rosey Irish arse. Easily bored, you bet!

My niece has decided that her little darling son is afflicted with ADD/ADHD/CNN/ABC/CBS/FBI/CIA or whatever. After seeing the little bastard operate, I came to the immediate conclusion he needed his butt walloped.

Well, she hit him with Ritalin and others. But when he still acted the same, she tried my remedy. He is now a pretty good kid (for a mean little turd)! That is just the way he is. He will, in all likelihood, be a mass murderer by age 25. But he doesn't have any alphabet malady.

185 posted on 04/29/2003 12:18:09 PM PDT by lawdude
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To: FourPeas
Having only my experience as a parent to go on, I think the ability to focus the attention is formed in the first two years of life in response to parental demands. Thus, by school age, a child's TV habits may be illustrative, but no longer causal.

I think this formation at an early age is the missing element in the debate.

186 posted on 04/29/2003 12:22:58 PM PDT by Taliesan
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To: FourPeas
I agree that, in general, children watch way too much television and that the programs foster short attention spans.

No, they watch television because they have short attention spans AND because all entertainment allows passivity, and these are two distinct and separate issues.

187 posted on 04/29/2003 12:27:13 PM PDT by Taliesan
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To: Zavien Doombringer
He's just a troll anyway ... not really worth ANY effort physically mentally or otherwise
188 posted on 04/29/2003 12:27:57 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797
Yes, well then, I will leave the matter where it stands.
(picks up the gauntlets that were left on the ground and waves the mortician to be excused) I was hoping to have pistols at ten paces, I didn't think he knew how to "fence".
189 posted on 04/29/2003 12:31:41 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Taliesan
Having only my experience as a parent to go on, I think the ability to focus the attention is formed in the first two years of life in response to parental demands. Thus, by school age, a child's TV habits may be illustrative, but no longer causal.

So my oldest son, who had a fulltime stay-at-home mother focusing on him, reading to him, playing with him and talking to him fulltime should have trained my child to have difficulty focusing?

190 posted on 04/29/2003 12:32:59 PM PDT by FourPeas
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To: FourPeas
NO, but could stretch those apron-strings a bit...
Human touch and the nuture of a mother can never be replaced by a TV, the behavior patterns are certainly different. Mom doesn't equal violence.
191 posted on 04/29/2003 12:35:46 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
I hope your daughter does as well with the disorder as I have been. I have been VERY VERY lucky .... I dropped out of high school in my senior year.
That blows the "disipline is the cure" theory ... my Dad was just one notch down from Jason in his hockey mask. It took a lot of growing up and maturity (and the Vietnam war) before I could control my ADHD enough to get my GED and go to college. Even at 52 years old ... I still have to fight it EVERY DAY.
192 posted on 04/29/2003 12:39:37 PM PDT by clamper1797 (Per caritate viduaribus orphanibusque sed prime viduaribus)
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To: clamper1797
Wow, thank you for your support! I totally understand ADHD and ADD, not a doctor, but I can see the validity of most being on meds. Yes, to a large degree there are parents that want to supress their children because they are lazy. That hurts those that are really suffering...
My daughters doctor is careful on who she writes scripts for, she even stated that if my daughter wasn't ADHD or ADD, she would be "zoned" or we could notice no effect.
We started her on the meds and noticed IMMEDIATLEY a change in her school work. *NOTE* she isn't pumped up with drugs all day, only during her school hours. Her dillema is physical, not psychological or emotional, and will grow out of this in time.
My dad was an Army Officer...I share your pain...He was determined that I wouldn't be the typical Army Brat.
193 posted on 04/29/2003 12:46:51 PM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (If I keep my eyes on Jesus, I could walk on water - Audio Adrenaline)
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To: lawdude
LOL I like you.
194 posted on 04/29/2003 12:59:28 PM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I can see your point. However, if there is a chance that using ritilin as child will lead to other psychiatric problems later in life, I'm not sure it's worth the risk until it is known whether or not the drug harms developing brains.
195 posted on 04/29/2003 1:15:15 PM PDT by realpatriot71 (legalize freedom!)
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Are you suggesting that speaking with an accent is a bad enough result to warrant giving powerful drugs to children? Just listen to what you're advocating, it's right out of Brave New World... or maybe Farenheit 451. So what if someone speaks with an accent? Is the goal here to eliminate any trace of individuality?

Even if ADD were real, what makes you think drugging the kid would the right solution?

196 posted on 04/29/2003 1:41:01 PM PDT by thoughtomator (US Gov't says: Mind-altering drugs are evil except when used to pacify toddlers)
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To: FourPeas
I know some of the diets I have read about say to eliminate dairy and starch products like breads. So it isn't whether they are having an unhealthy diet, it is that some normally "good" foods can cause kids to react.

The one diet I've heard the most about is the Feingold diet, but I really don't know what is involved.

My daughter doesn't have ADD/ADHD. She has speech problems due to a brain injury. I just know that some of the parents in the speech group have kids that have ADD/ADHD and/or Autism. They talk about the diets, but they aren't applicable to my daughter.
197 posted on 04/29/2003 1:50:13 PM PDT by luckystarmom
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To: clamper1797
IMHO, it's much easier for people to adhere to an extreme (Bush is 100% right, Clinton is 100% evil, all cases of ADD/ADHD are legitmate, all cases are from bad discipline) than to actually take the time and think through this stuff.

For example, a lot of homeless policies that worked in NY under Guiliani will not work in SF simply because you can sleep outside comfortably in SF all times of the year, you can't in NYC.

Your case does sound pretty genuine & bad... but likewise --all of my friends have an "alphabet disorder" as #185 so eloquently put it... they're nothing like you are.

People will pay big bucks to get their own flaws excused as a handicap of some sort. Actually working to solve these flaws isn't popular at all. It's a simple supply-and-demand effect--people want to be diagnosed with something, so psychologists get paid big money to diagnose every other kid with ADD. I'm positive that if I walked into a clinic, I'd waltz out with being schzoid & having Asperger's and maybe ADD.

That being said, the other extreme is just as bad as well. My dad hated those non-disciplining parents, and he went to the other extreme and found a way to put blame on me for every issue/trouble I had.
198 posted on 04/29/2003 1:53:41 PM PDT by Nataku X (Never give Bush any power you wouldn't want to give to Hillary.)
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To: Houmatt
A.D.D. BUM (uh, what was I doing ... oh, yea) P!
199 posted on 04/29/2003 1:56:02 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Conservababe
The ADD scam is a crime and a moral people have an obligation to see it stopped. What kind of society says a 20-year old adult can't drink a beer, but it's just fine to give amphetamines to millions of children?
200 posted on 04/29/2003 1:59:11 PM PDT by thoughtomator (US Gov't says: Mind-altering drugs are evil except when used to pacify toddlers)
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