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Olmos transports from 'Family 'to 'Battlestar Galactica'
Pittsburgh Post Gazette ^ | April 29, 2003 | Rob Owen, Post-Gazette TV Editor

Posted on 04/29/2003 8:12:14 AM PDT by RayBob

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:35:07 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The first season of PBS's "American Family," in which Edward James Olmos plays the conservative patriarch of a Hispanic Los Angeles family, comes out on DVD today.

But it's his role as another patriarch that's bound to get TV viewers in their 30s and 40s talking. Olmos is filming Sci Fi Channel's miniseries remake of the late '70s TV show "Battlestar Galactica." Olmos takes over the role of Commander Adama, originally played by the late Lorne Greene.


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To: Question_Assumptions
I don't thing ST beats out B5... ST gets kudos for being first... which is not short accomplishment, but it was only on for 3 seasons and was for all its acclaim fairly forumlatic.

B5 Was a true ongoing story, with a distinct timeline and universe. You can catch nearly any episode of ST without seeing any other episode and would have little or no impact. B5 was a true Sci Fi epic, not merely a show, which is what ST clearly was. (Yes I know ST orig had a timeline, but they made sure at the end of every episode, everything was pretty much the same as it was before the show began...)

I agree the 5th season nearly didn't get made, because of problems etc. But as a whole, I honestly thing B5 was the greatest work (series) ever to get onto TV in the sci fi genre.

I agree the original TZ is fabu as well... but I guess I never really put it in the sci fi genre in my mind.
181 posted on 04/29/2003 12:44:46 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Question_Assumptions
Don't much care how they do it. I just want them to bring Marcus back to life. hubba hubba zoot zoot ;)
182 posted on 04/29/2003 12:45:23 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Question_Assumptions
I would hope so, but I'm not holding my breath. The fact that they decides to release the sequels (or as they've put it, the 2 part sequel) as two hour and a half movies 6 months apart rather than 1 three hour movie (especially at a time when Potter and LOTR have shown that sf/f audiences can sit through long movies in large numbers and make them very profitable) to me doesn't bode well for the story. I think it's going to be a lot of stellar effects and very little if any real plot. I've got enough other must see movies coming this summer that I intend to ignore Matrix unless certain people I truly respect say I shouldn't.
183 posted on 04/29/2003 12:46:30 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: Future Snake Eater
Brick Pumpchest.

That one and the time travel one are so damn funny, others are tedious, but those two are the best. Oh yeah, and Mitchell...

184 posted on 04/29/2003 12:47:27 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: discostu
The Matrix was pretty original and was inspired by kung fu movies and anime. But considering your taste in music, you won't understand that.

Star Wars ripped of a lot of legends and folklore.

And Space Above and Beyond was Shakespear compared to the Hulk series.

By the way, I'm looking to be 'Reloaded' May 15.

185 posted on 04/29/2003 12:47:48 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: RayBob

186 posted on 04/29/2003 12:48:52 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: CathyRyan
Don't much care how they do it. I just want them to bring Marcus back to life. hubba hubba zoot zoot ;)

Unfortunately, the actor that played him was the "lefty" of the cast politically.

187 posted on 04/29/2003 12:49:06 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Question_Assumptions
You can only siphon away so many taxpayer dollars into a black project like a moonbase without the taxpayers getting suspicious.


188 posted on 04/29/2003 12:50:19 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Question_Assumptions
As much as I enjoyed Babylon 5, it ran its course and probably overstayed its welcome by a season.

Not to mention that it was a total ripoff of J.R.R. Tolkien. It was damn good, but a ripoff.

189 posted on 04/29/2003 12:52:53 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (®)
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To: Benrand
Big McLargeHuge
191 posted on 04/29/2003 12:56:34 PM PDT by Benrand
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To: Question_Assumptions
D*mn proof yet again that no one is perfect. I still like the character Marcus.
192 posted on 04/29/2003 12:57:01 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: epluribus_2
YEAH!!!!
Bring back Smeghead!
And I'm not talking Clinton!
193 posted on 04/29/2003 12:59:46 PM PDT by cuz_it_aint_their_money
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To: HamiltonJay
What set Star Trek apart was that many episodes were written by real science fiction authors and television writers. And I don't think it is nearly as formulaic as many of the shows that followed. Most of the current batch of SF suffers from "fanboy" syndrome, where everything becomes an homage to some previous show or episode. What set the original Star Trek apart was that it wasn't trying to be like some other science fiction show or like an earlier version of itself.

B5 Was a true ongoing story, with a distinct timeline and universe.

Yes. And it worked because JMS wrote nearly every episode himself. Had he farmed out more episodes, Babylon 5 would have looked very different (as many of the farmed out episodes do look different).

You can catch nearly any episode of ST without seeing any other episode and would have little or no impact.

In some ways, that was bad. In others, it was good. The good thing is that the episodes were about something different each week, not a development or revisitation of a previously established idea.

B5 was a true Sci Fi epic, not merely a show, which is what ST clearly was. (Yes I know ST orig had a timeline, but they made sure at the end of every episode, everything was pretty much the same as it was before the show began...)

And the Epic was done, which is my point. How do you follow up the original arc with something interesting? You can't, really, without starting all over or changing the show. What happened in the 5th season was that it started to become episodic. You seem to be saying that's not what you want and I'm saying that's what would have happened to Babylon 5 if it kept goind. And if they brought it back, it would be either episodic (like the two spin-offs that failed) or they'd have to try to outdo th original arc with something new, and I doubt they'd get JMS to create it or write every episode. The thought of that just makes me shudder.

I agree the 5th season nearly didn't get made, because of problems etc. But as a whole, I honestly thing B5 was the greatest work (series) ever to get onto TV in the sci fi genre.

It was certainly a great achievement. But you can't keep an epic with a story arc going forever. You can't replace an epic with episodes. And you can't try to top and epic like Babylon 5 with something even bigger and more important. They saved the universe once. Any repeat would cover the same ground. It was great. It ended. Like a war hero that has passed on, you can't dig them up for a second go and shouldn't try.

I agree the original TZ is fabu as well... but I guess I never really put it in the sci fi genre in my mind.

It firmly belongs there.

194 posted on 04/29/2003 1:03:17 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
People keep saying that but I don't see the similarity at all. Not even in the most superficial sense.
195 posted on 04/29/2003 1:06:37 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: RayBob
As long as they use the following terms at least once in the remake it will be worth watching. It cant be any worse than the so-called reality tv shows being pushed in us theses days:
Terminology

solenite - a type of enery often used for bombs

tylium - an energy fuel source mined and refined on the planet Carillon by the Ovions as part of a deal with the Cylons

frak - a slang swear word used by Starbuck

Felgercarb - slang swear word used by Starbuck

millenium - unit of time for approximately 1000 years

yahren - unit of time for approximately 1 year

sectar - approximately the colonial time unit for a month

secton - approximately the colonial time unit for a week

centar - unit of time for approximately an hour

centon - unit of time for approximately a minute

micron - unit of time for approximately a second

solium - a type of energy coolant that the colonial fleet uses

cubit - unit of money used by the Colonies

triad - a team based game with two players on each team where players try to put a ball into a goal in the wall.; a cross between basketball, and football.

pyramid - a card game similar to poker that Starbuck often plays for money.

196 posted on 04/29/2003 1:08:34 PM PDT by Formermasslurker
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To: discostu
You are taking this way to personally. Calm down.

The Matrix is original because it handle it's own story line in a way that had never been done before.

Space Above and Beyond was a fun series, something you seem to refuse to admit.

197 posted on 04/29/2003 1:09:31 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Benrand
"Mitchell!...heart pounding...Mitchell!...veins clogging...MITCHELL!"
198 posted on 04/29/2003 1:14:42 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (All generalizations are false.)
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To: Paul C. Jesup
You called me an idiot. Then you came up with some jackass crack that because of my musical taste I "wouldn't understand" a stupid movie like the Matrix. Exactly how am I not supposed to take that personally?

The Matrix ISN'T original because the story line is as old as sci fi. The only original part about the whole thing was that the backplot the constructed for why the world was an illusion made it so there was no concievable reason why the hero would want to break the imaginary world, but he did anyway because otherwise the movie would have to end an hour earlier.

SAAB wasn't fun. SAAB was painfully boring and the characters were incessant whiners that made me wish somebody would space them. I can do braindead fun (so long as it's not so braindead I'm asking the screen "why would anybody do that"), I took my name from a Simpsons character that's hooked on the worst music from the 70s fun I can handle. But as I said earlier, given the choice between watching SAAB and doing the dishes I did the dishes, just how much fun can the show be that doing household chores is a more entertaining alternative. I'm glad you enjoyed the show, but it's rating numbers show you were in the distinct minority.
199 posted on 04/29/2003 1:17:17 PM PDT by discostu (A cow don't make ham)
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To: yarddog
There was a Sci-Fi series way back around the 60's which I really liked. It starred Roy Thinnes and was called "The Invaders" The neatest thing was when he would kill one of the aliens, their bodies would burn up which was explained as having something to do with their souls going back to their home planet.

Ah, The Invaders! As a girl I was terrified of that big tophat in the sky. And after seeing most of the series again as an adult, it held up surprisingly well for a low to mid-budget '60s scifi show.

I love how the the invaders would glow before they burst into flames. I think this happened because the process that molded their bodies into human form stressed them thermodynamically, so a big enough shock to the system would initiate the catastrophic exothermic reaction as their bodies sought equilibrium. And they burned completely because their skeletons were cellulose-based (wood, IOW).

Oh yeah, and the stories were usually inventive. I kept thinking that with just a little more thought & polish to the writing it could be a great series. (But maybe I'm looking at a '60s show thru jaded '00s eyes there.) And the theme music was too cool.

"How does a nightmare begin?..."

200 posted on 04/29/2003 1:22:23 PM PDT by jennyp (http://crevo.bestmessageboard.com)
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