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1 posted on 04/28/2003 1:55:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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Excellent article, it describes quite a few ideologues and "intellectuals" that I have known.
2 posted on 04/28/2003 2:04:39 PM PDT by Mihalis
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"One thing that marks out a totalitarian movement is its contempt for human life. In this respect the greens stand shoulder to shoulder with the Nazis and the Reds."

And Democrats.

3 posted on 04/28/2003 2:05:11 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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This guy hit the nail on the head. I'm filing this for future reference.
4 posted on 04/28/2003 2:08:15 PM PDT by tiki
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"In this respect the greens stand shoulder to shoulder with the Nazis and the Reds."

I read that the greenies want to have an area parrallel with the Mississippi that is several hundred miles wide "de-populated" to allow for animals to roam freely from north to south in the US.

Yep, no future for humans in their agenda.
5 posted on 04/28/2003 2:08:46 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe (Maybe this "Army Of One" is a good thing - You Gotta Admire the 3rd Infantry Accomplishments)
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Howard Stern had a caller today who was a "vegan". Quite the idealist. She's 17, headed to UCLA and wants to start a club there for fellow greens/vegans (like they don't have one already).

She was asked if she would approve for her mother to receive a heart from a pig if it was the only way to save her mom's life. She said she couldn't, because who was she to say one animal is superior to another.

The problem in this logic is that she has already made that choice, and determined the pig is more valuable than her mother. If they are truly equal you'd flip a coin or something.
7 posted on 04/28/2003 2:16:06 PM PDT by sharktrager
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thanks for the post.

This article could also be describing Kyoto and the reasons for mass starvation in countries where the UN is responsible for getting food aid to the filthy peasants....err....poor, downtrodden masses.

8 posted on 04/28/2003 2:23:22 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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SMASH THE WATERMELONS!!!
9 posted on 04/28/2003 2:24:29 PM PDT by headsonpikes
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"[T]the greens stand shoulder to shoulder with the Nazis and the Reds."

I'm no greenie, but antagonistic hotheads like this who write in such ludicrous broad strokes will accomplish nothing to work the types of wise compromise needed to ensure the future of our kids (who currently haven't the right to vote) so that we all can work, eat, stay healthy, and carry on life. He makes me want to say, "Talk to the elbow because the hand ain't listening," and I am (generally) on his side.
10 posted on 04/28/2003 2:34:25 PM PDT by thetruckster
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14 posted on 04/28/2003 3:20:14 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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15 posted on 04/28/2003 3:22:27 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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I must be lost. How did DDT come to play in this article? I'm all for hammering on the Greens and totalitarianism, but that and most other pesticides are simply unneccessary and mostly toxic to humans. Somebody educate me.
16 posted on 04/28/2003 3:27:26 PM PDT by manic4organic (An organic conservative)
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"Green policies are killing millions of peasants. This is mass murder and those responsible should be held to account."


Not only do Liberals think their words have no consequences (witness the whining of the Dixie Chics) but they think their actions have no consequences either.
18 posted on 04/28/2003 3:35:11 PM PDT by MikeAtTheShore
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To: Tailgunner Joe; *Death Cultivation; Carry_Okie
Hey Joe,
Please ping me when you see items like this. You know this is the issue I think isn't discussed -- and condemned -- enough.

C_O: Perhaps your aid at number 16.
33 posted on 04/28/2003 7:35:51 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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In a 1997 article in the Atlantic Monthly (not exactly a rightwing periodical!) about a Nobel laureate agronomist widely known as "the father of the Green Revolution," I was angered to read about how the Enviros of the US and Europe have worked hard to suppress research aimed at developing high yield crops, because of the hundreds of millions (some estimate one billion) lives saved by these crops in the last 40 years. They would prefer to see a billion people die slow agonizing deaths by starvation, because any reduction in the human population - no matter how it is accomplished - is seen as a net plus for the earth. Here's one quote from the article :

Another reason is that Borlaug's mission -- to cause the environment to produce significantly more food -- has come to be seen, at least by some securely affluent commentators, as perhaps better left undone. More food sustains human population growth, which they see as antithetical to the natural world.

They successfully pressured the major foundations who originally funded his work in the early days (Rockefeller, Ford, etc.) to stop funding him. Makes your blood boil!!

35 posted on 04/28/2003 7:43:49 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
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Like modern-day Albigensians, it seems the Greens perceive man as an evil to be done away with here on earth. Of course this fits in perfectly with the totalitarian modus operandi. For example, it provides cover to rail against and eliminate political enemies such as by the constant cries of "the sky is falling and it's all your fault".
37 posted on 04/28/2003 8:04:10 PM PDT by P.O.E. (God Bless and keep safe our troops.)
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No, our totalitarian greens do not use gas chambers, death camps, firing squads or torture chambers to rid themselves of the lesser people. What they try to do is deny them life-saving chemicals and technology. Green policies are killing millions of peasants. This is mass murder and those responsible should be held to account.

Beware supporting this kind of hysterical shrieking. Not every rational argument has to be teased out to the nth extreme where the opponent is suddenly equivalent to "Nazis."

You isolate your argument from mainstream moderate thinking and make yourself look like an extremist, in return, furthering alienating your argument from rational discourse.

42 posted on 04/28/2003 9:28:51 PM PDT by lurky
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I like the article, but he needs a reference that documents the effect of eliminating DDT on humanity. I'm sure there are a number from which to choose. Surprising that he missed that since he had so many other references for his other statements.
43 posted on 04/28/2003 9:30:24 PM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: belmont_mark
PING!
46 posted on 04/28/2003 11:53:04 PM PDT by Orion78
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