Aziz admits Saddam may be dead

Scotland on Sunday ^ | April 27, 2003 | TOM CURTIS

[bert]

.....I concluded that all bets were off......

Me too.American Military intelligence had a good reason for both hits and one day those reasons will be divulged. It would help us a lot if the names of those suspected of being there were released.

There is a deck of 55 cards, of which 13 are now in custody. There were reportedly 14 in the latter strike and an unknown number in the first. It is a pretty safe bet to say that half of the 55 are off the street.

[error99]

"Shock and Awe" was real and it worked.
It WAS NOT designed to shock and awe me or you.
It WAS NOT designed to shock and awe the media.
It WAS designed to shock and awe the Iraqi regime.
It did that, and it was very effective.
The opposition had vitually zero military leadership, communication,
or coordination after the first few seconds of the war.
Oh, and by the way, Saddam is dead.

[TN4Liberty]

If Aziz was a "mole", why would the coalition start the rumor that he had been captured, killed, etc., at the beginning of the war? Later reports said that those rumors were started to make him show himself so he could be tracked, perhaps to help locate Saddam.

I agree that Aziz seems the type to sell out his boss. I'm just not sure his involvement in the early days of the war make sense if he had.

[Texas Tea]

I have a question. Have I missed it or has there not been any reports of finding and entering the main bunker that the Swiss built for Saddam?

If I missed it, could someone point me to that thread?

[js1138]

I'm not sure Aziz is in any position to be caught in a lie, do you?

I think if Aziz knowing provides false information, he may be turned over to the Iraqis for their brand of justice. That plus the confisction of any money his family might have to live on. The only thing he has to sell is truth.

[keri]

It was clear to me that Bush believes Saddam was hit the first night.

I watched Tom Brokaw's interview. It *is* clear that President Bush believes he got Saddam the first night. It is also clear that he trusts the intelligence on the ground in Iraq that provided the information on Saddam's whereabouts.

Bush does not parse his words like a lawyer.

He doesn't. He's uncomplicated and straightforward. It's a waste of time to try and analyze what he says.

[rightofrush]

I looked up your bio sheet and realize I should done that earlier. There was a "Mad Ivan" that was in denial about the 9 million or so Germans that were were either killed outright or by being ethnicaly cleansed from Pomerania (now western Poland), Prussia, Sudetenland, etc.

I think that he may have used a space or used lower case in his post name.

[MadIvan]

Well I don't know about any other Mad Ivans - I thought I was the only one. Disquieting that I'm not. ;)

Regards, Ivan

[Moonman62]

Did I see something today about aziz maybe having worked as a 'mole'? I could believe that of him.

Considering that president Bush has made a similar statement recently about Saddam getting killed the first night, I would think that strengthens the case that Aziz was the informant. And Aziz being alive, thus not likely at that bombed meeting, is another factor.

[Otta B Sleepin]

he never said he never SPOKE or otherwise communicated with Saddam- directly or indirectly. He only said he had not SEEN him

Exactly what my dh said. Aziz's statement was carefully worded.

Personally, I'd rather be optimistic. It won't change the circumstances of Saddam's whereabouts, but it makes me feel a lot better to think he's dead.

[Mitchell]

I'm not sure exactly what I heard. I suspect you heard a different interview.

[rightofrush]

"Belarus official does not deny DEBKAfile’s revelation of Saddam Hussein’s flight to Minsk. In answer to question, Belarus President’s spokesperson Natalia Pietkiewicz said only: “We have no information of Saddam Hussein’s presence in Belarus.”"

-From today's DEBKAfile.

[Spruce]

[justshutupandtakeit]

If "one has no information" about something then it is hard to deny it.

If he were in Belarus we would have him within days, if not hours. Did he come in with Chinese troops?