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Santorum is Right
AgapePress ^ | April 25, 2003 | R. Cort Kirkwood

Posted on 04/26/2003 6:24:52 AM PDT by Remedy

Sen. Rick Santorum, Republican from Pennsylvania, is now likened to Sen. Trent Lott.

Santorum has upset the homosexuals, and they expect the GOP to dump their No. 3 senator. What happens remains to be seen, but the one thing Santorum must not do is apologize.

Several reasons come to mind, not least of which is that he's right.

What He Said
Referring to a U.S. Supreme Court case that will decide the "constitutionality" of Texas' sodomy law, Santorum, an orthodox Catholic, remarked thusly:

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything."

Within minutes, a mouthpiece from the disingenuously named Human Rights Campaign, a lobby group for sodomy, was on the blower with the newspapers: "It is stunning, stunning in its insensitivity," David Smith told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "Putting homosexuality on the same moral plane as incest is repulsive."

A Santorum spokeswoman rushed to answer: "[She] said yesterday that Santorum had no problem with gay relationships. 'Sen. Santorum was specifically speaking about the right to privacy within the context of the Supreme Court case,' she said, explaining that he did not want to elevate gay sex to the level of a constitutional right."

Commented Howard Kurtz in The Washington Post, "At least Trent Lott had the good sense to apologize."

The Real Problems
If you want to know what's wrong here, look beyond Santorum. First look to the Supreme Court, which has no role here. The Texas law is "constitutional" because it's none of the federal government's business, regardless of what high court "precedent" says.

If Santorum were smart, he'd be working to undo the 75 years of unconstitutional "civil rights" jurisprudence and legislation that permits the Supreme Court to decide these things.

Second, of course Santorum has "a problem with gay relationships." If one form of extra-marital sex is permissible, Santorum essentially said, all of it is. This is what faithful Catholics like Santorum believe. And that, not politically organized sodomites, Kurtz and others gallingly suggest, is what's wrong.

Citing the AP follow, Kurtz quotes Santorum, then adds a snippy, fallacious analogy: Santorum has "'no problem with homosexuality -- I have a problem with homosexual acts.' Boy, that oughta make everyone feel better. Kind of like saying you have no problem with disabled folks, it's just those blasted wheelchairs."

No, it's not like saying that, but regardless, Santorum is right again. Love the sinner; hate the sin. It's standard Christian teaching. And that, again, is the real evil in this topsy-turvy morality play.

Why He's Right
Now, let's grab the nettle:

"Putting homosexuality on the same moral plane as incest is repulsive," says the professional homosexual. Really?

I'd describe what homosexuals do in detail, but it's so repulsive I'll let readers look into it. They can decide whether anal intercourse is repulsive, or whether a three-man orgy in a bathhouse is morally equivalent to a married man and woman making new life.

Homosexual sodomy, an objectively disordered act, is on the same moral plane as incest. It is a mortal sin, all of which are repulsive to Christians and not only send the unrepentant to Hell but also poison society.

Explanations and apologies didn't help Lott. They won't help Santorum.


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Santorum, an orthodox Catholic

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I'd describe what homosexuals do in detail, but it's so repulsive I'll let readers look into it. They can decide whether anal intercourse is repulsive, or whether a three-man orgy in a bathhouse is morally equivalent to a married man and woman making new life.

Texas Physicians Resource Council, Christian Medical and Dental Association, Catholic Medical Association

INTEREST OF AMICI CURIAE Amici are medical organizations that believe public health policy should be based upon scientific evidence rather than political expediency. They believe that the medical research clearly demonstrates the harmful nature of same-sex sodomy, and that compassionate, caring physicians should discourage such harmful behavior. Amici submit this brief to inform the Court of the public health concerns associated with same-sex sodomy. 1

The Texas Physicians Resource Council is a statewide network of Christian physicians and dentists made up of approximately 500 members. Its purpose is to address medically related ethical issues that affect Texas families, including issues relating to homosexuality. The Christian Medical and Dental Associations (" CMDA") are national organizations made up of the Christian Medical Association and the Christian Dental Association, with over 17,000 members. CMDA promotes evidence-based medicine and addresses policies on healthcare issues. Many CMDA members are involved in treating sexually transmitted diseases worldwide through medical missions to third world countries. The Catholic Medical Association upholds principles of the Catholic faith and morality as related to the science and practice of medicine, and applies principles of faith and morality to modern medical science and practice.

Texas has a legitimate interest in regulating public health, and the CDC has identified sexually transmitted diseases (" STDs") as a public health problem. Sodomy is an efficient method of transmitting STDs. And regardless of the reason, same-sex sodomy is far more effective in spreading STDs than opposite-sex sodomy. Multiple studies have estimated that 40 percent or more of men who practice anal sex acquire STDs. In fact, same-sex sodomy has resulted in the transformation of diseases previously transmitted only through fecally contamin-ated food and water into sexually caused diseases– primarily among those who practice same-sex sodomy. The issue under rational-basis review is not whether Texas should be concerned about opposite-sex sodomy, but whether it is reasonable to believe that same-sex sodomy is a distinct public health problem.

1 posted on 04/26/2003 6:24:52 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
He just has to learn how do it more effectively.
2 posted on 04/26/2003 6:27:35 AM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort

undo the 75 years of unconstitutional "civil rights" jurisprudence


3 posted on 04/26/2003 6:30:20 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Remedy
If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual [gay] sex within your home, then you have the right to ... adultery

Uh... people do have the right to commit adultery.

ALthough I support Rick Santorum, I don't know why he would pick this comparison.

4 posted on 04/26/2003 6:33:46 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Remedy
Yeah, what Rick Santorum said. Some things just are not morally equivalent to others. There are only a few right ways in life, but an enormous number of wrong ways.

To those who protest that they have a "right" to their beliefs - Believe, but abstain. Just don't burden us with your bad behavior.
5 posted on 04/26/2003 6:39:55 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
You give up the "right" to adultery when you marry.
7 posted on 04/26/2003 6:43:33 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: shawne
Adultery is illegal and you do not have a "right" to adultery.

Where is adultery illegal?

8 posted on 04/26/2003 6:44:26 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
http://christianparty.net/adulterylaws.htm
9 posted on 04/26/2003 6:46:28 AM PDT by John W
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To: Remedy
"Putting homosexuality on the same moral plane as incest is repulsive," says the professional homosexual.

But Rick also put it on the same plane as adultery, meaning people like Hyde, Gingrich, Livingston....

Right?

10 posted on 04/26/2003 6:46:56 AM PDT by RJCogburn (Yes, I will call it bold talk for a......)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Uhh.... There is no "right to commit adultry"

In fact, in some states it is in fact criminal if the offended spouse decides to press charges (but the spouse gets to decide).

The last time I read the Constitution, the word "adultry" or synonym thereof was notably absent.

Second, even if you did have a right to commit adultry, that doesn't make it the "right" thing to do. Wrong is still wrong, no matter what a piece of paper may say.

Rick Santorum merely followed a potential supreme court decision to its logical conclusion, which is "lets endorse a bunch of things we don't agree under the guise of equal protection and right to privacy to keep a vocal minority and liberals happy..."
11 posted on 04/26/2003 6:47:25 AM PDT by Ipinawetsuit
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Support Sen. Santorum's strong stand for family (PETITION) 16,584 Signatures
12 posted on 04/26/2003 6:49:42 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Ipinawetsuit
There is no "right to commit adultry...The last time I read the Constitution, the word "adultry" or synonym thereof was notably absent.

Neither is there a "constitutional right" to choose your vocation, choose your own college, choose between going to a baseball game or a football game.

Yes. Adultery is wrong. So is attending strip bars. But illegal?

13 posted on 04/26/2003 6:52:52 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: RJCogburn

But Rick also put it on the same plane as adultery, meaning people like Hyde, Gingrich, Livingston....

I don't see those folks attempting to CONSTITUTIONALIZE their behavior.

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"to'eva" - abomination...

 

 

14 posted on 04/26/2003 6:53:06 AM PDT by Remedy
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To: Ipinawetsuit
We've changed our forefathers interpretation of FREEDOM to mean "anything we are capable of doing".

If I didn't restrict the FREEDOM of my children, they probably would have set the house on fire, drank Clorox, driven the car to school at age 12, etc..

Pretty obvious that FREEDOM has to be tempered with Rules and Protections.

15 posted on 04/26/2003 6:54:55 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: Remedy
So, should homosexuals be stoned to death to conform to Old Testament Law?
16 posted on 04/26/2003 6:55:30 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: Remedy
(Sarcasm On)

Gee,... heteros are always trying to make homo sex dirty and obscene. But just imagine it my way....Here you are in a filthy gay bath-house, on your hands and knees for the 15th time that night having anal sex with a guy you just met moments ago,...you've just taken your 35th hit of nitrite poppers and your nose is bleeding from 3 years of non-stop cocaine. You've got AIDS, syph, the clap, and you need 2 hits of viagra just to remember where your penis is. You're 42, you've wasted your life on homo sex, illegal drugs and medications to keep you alive, you have no family, no kids, no future except being an aging queen.

Now I think that paints a pretty good picture, don't you?

(Sarcasm off!)

17 posted on 04/26/2003 6:55:49 AM PDT by Doc Savage
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
>> "ALthough I support Rick Santorum, I don't know why he would pick this comparison."

To pick ONE (any one) out of the list that Mr Santorum said, and then to complain about that comparison, misses the whole point of Mr Santorum's statement.

The point is : if one argues that if sex is a) consensual and b) private, then there is a RIGHT to it, means that a state could not make ANY sex illegal as long is it met those two conditions.

Make your own list. The items on the list are not important, the important fact is the attempt by the homosexual community to define legal sex as any sex which is private and consensual.

Mr Santorum's statement just says that if you define it this way, and this way only, then no state could make any number of things illegal.
18 posted on 04/26/2003 6:55:53 AM PDT by sd-joe
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
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19 posted on 04/26/2003 6:58:20 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: Ipinawetsuit

Rick Santorum merely followed a potential supreme court decision to its logical conclusion, which is "lets endorse a bunch of things we don't agree under the guise of equal protection and right to privacy to keep a vocal minority and liberals happy..."

How right you are:

Homosexuals Ask Supreme Court to Strike Down Sodomy Laws -- 03/ ...

Justice Antonin Scalia frequently questioned Smith, challenging many of his arguments.

''There is a long history of the state making moral judgments,'' Scalia said, noting that strongly held principles and values are the foundation of many laws.

But Smith said this law "intrudes into the bedroom," a place Americans consider private. He said many people would be stunned if they knew sodomy laws still existed. Only 13 states have them today, nine of which ban sodomy for both heterosexuals and homosexuals. Laws in Texas, Kansas, Missouri and Oklahoma apply only to homosexuals.

Scalia refused to accept Smith's reasoning. He said police are not breaking down doors looking for violators; instead, they are likely to discover these sexual acts during "accidental intrusions." Scalia also said if this statute was found unconstitutional, laws on heterosexual rape could be next.
Is Same-Sex Marriage Good for the Nation?

20 posted on 04/26/2003 6:59:13 AM PDT by Remedy
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