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Father kills his 3 children, and self

Posted on 04/24/2003 8:49:41 AM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs

NOKESVILLE, VIRGINIA per FOC NEWS CHANNEL

A father has killed himself and his three young children in his home in Nokesville, VA.

The children are ages 9, 7, and 5.

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To: michigander
"...Chinn said no motive has been determined in the slayings. "

THIS IS 'FUNNY'-who needs an 'understanding'-except clinical/criminalresearchers- of this slob's motive?!

21 posted on 04/24/2003 9:18:38 AM PDT by 1234 (Border Control or IMPEACHMENT)
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
How sad. My three children are those ages. I have to wonder what happens to someone who goes over the edge like that. With the stress of life continuing to rise with deeper debt, failing marriages, children who have no respect for their elders and companies who demand more of their employees...I can see where one can loose it if they have no peace in their lives. No outlets to get away from the destructive and depressing side of life.

We'll never know why people do these kind of things, but I believe our society as a whole has contributed to these events. God and family needs to come back to the top of our lists, not the pursuit of wealth, possesions and power. Then, maybe we can have a little more peace and harmony in our homes. Fewer divorces, with children growing up with manners and morals.

This man lost all hope, not only for himself, but the future of his children.
22 posted on 04/24/2003 9:37:33 AM PDT by spokanite
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To: isthisnickcool
Several million people did not kill anyone today...

Since that is such a hugh number of people NOT killing anyone today. Does that mean that suicidal-homicide is NOT the most series issue confronting humanity at the moment??

23 posted on 04/24/2003 9:38:17 AM PDT by Mr.Atos
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To: RobRoy
"He was wrong to do so, but if I had to go through what he did, I could imagine that it would be possible for me to do the same (I have three daughters). In his own "semi-selfish" way, he saw it as "saving" his daughters."

you are despicable.....

24 posted on 04/24/2003 9:41:23 AM PDT by cherry
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To: new cruelty
It's too complex to cover in a few paragraphs. I can just say it has to do with the fact that the family court system is the antithesis of justice. His solution to the problem was wrong, but the system really does make people crazy. What it does to the male psyche, in particular, is very dangerous.

I had a very hard time with what this man did, until about ten years later I had to deal with the same system. I now at least empathise with his feelings, while not his actions.

The family court system so pummels a mans sense of responsibility and control over his own destiny that some WILL act out in ways such as this. Many showed no violent tendencies beforehand.

It's one of those "walk a mile in his shoes" things.
25 posted on 04/24/2003 10:11:11 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
"Family court is a seriously evil thing!"
Absolutely true.
26 posted on 04/24/2003 10:12:56 AM PDT by Bahbah (Pray for our Troops)
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To: cherry
>>you are despicable...<<

Yes, I am. That is why Christ had to die on the cross. And He did so as the ultimate act of love for me. I did not deserve it, nor can I ever. But I thank Him every day for the eternity He promised me through His shed blood and subsequent resurrection!
27 posted on 04/24/2003 10:18:34 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
very shallow and cowardly attempt to use Christ's words for your own disturbing thoughts...

for anyone to even suggest that murdering little children is some how justified or excusable is the utmost un-Christian like mentality....

just think of what you are saying or what you are thinking....no way would God ever, ever be forgiving of that....

interesting that when Andrea Yates killed her five children, very little talk about how she did it because of her "situation" in life or trying to "protect" them from her husband .....

killers are killers...

child killers are child killers...

28 posted on 04/24/2003 10:23:22 AM PDT by cherry
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To: RobRoy
Wow. What a pathetic loser.

And you're excusing it?

29 posted on 04/24/2003 10:27:39 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: cherry
Christ gave forgiveness to our souls in the hereafter. Moses and Aristotle provided us a guideline for life here and now. The imperfections of human nature do not preclude us from attempting to be perfect, good, rational, respectful, moral, ethical, just...

Christ did not provide us with an 'out' in the realm of personal responsibility. And rational philosophy as represented by the Constitution forbids us from attaching anyone else (children, spouses, friends, strangers) to our own shortcomings.

30 posted on 04/24/2003 10:33:22 AM PDT by Mr.Atos
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To: RobRoy
It's one of those "walk a mile in his shoes" things.

oh, one of those things. well, ok. that you could even empathize is eerie. please seek help if you ever feel the need to off yourself and your kids.

31 posted on 04/24/2003 10:39:05 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: cherry
>>very shallow and cowardly attempt to use Christ's words for your own disturbing thoughts...<<

No. It is a very accurate statement.

>>for anyone to even suggest that murdering little children is some how justified or excusable is the utmost un-Christian like mentality....<<

I agree. However, before a human can do something like that, they justify it in their own mind. That, in no way means it is justified action. I was pointing out the thought process that preceeded the "justification" in the mans mind. I certainly do not justify what he did.

>>just think of what you are saying or what you are thinking....no way would God ever, ever be forgiving of that....<<

Maybe not your god. The God of the Bible does ALL THE TIME, and promises to be faithful.

You seem to think there are limits on God's ability to forgive sin. Please explain where he draws the line, based on your interpretation of His Word.

>>interesting that when Andrea Yates killed her five children, very little talk about how she did it because of her "situation" in life or trying to "protect" them from her husband ...<<

Men and women are physiologically different and commit the same acts for different reasons. Did you know that more women attempt suicide than men, yet more men commit suicide than women. That is because, statistically speaking, when a man attempts suicide, he is trying to kill himself. When a woman attempts suicide, she is crying out for help.

God designed man to be responsible. He designed woman to be mans helpmate. On the negative side, the two types of humans respond differently to stress.
32 posted on 04/24/2003 10:45:07 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
>>And you're excusing it? <<

No, I'm trying to understand it. Whenever I see another man in a problem situation, I say, "There but for circumstance go I."

Some will understand what I said (I am not the original author of this thought), and some will interpret it to mean I am a sicko or slime or other such nonsense. They are merely showing their ignorance of the complexity of human behaviour and its various catalysts in a growingly complex world.
33 posted on 04/24/2003 10:48:20 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: new cruelty
>>please seek help if you ever feel the need to off yourself and your kids.<<

Trust me, I will.
34 posted on 04/24/2003 10:49:45 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
Garbage. To sit and excuse some simpering malcontent while claiming that "family court made him do wrong" is the height of straw grabbing.

Its apparent that the "wrongs" done to someone inclined to abandon all decency are not necessarily wrongs at all, and are generally wise precautions in trying to deal with someone whose brains are not wrapped real tight. In other words, absent the ability to preemptively lock up losers, about the only thing that can be done are orders regarding residence and contact with wives and children.

35 posted on 04/24/2003 10:53:27 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: RobRoy
The boyfriend moved in with her and the two daughters.

This should not be allowed by society. It just breeds more evil. Women who think only of themselves in these situations are behaving extremely selfishly.

Doesn't excuse what the man did but women really do provoke some men by their behavior.

36 posted on 04/24/2003 10:57:00 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: Mr.Atos
I'm with you.

I have told many an aquaintance that if Ted Bundy was sincere in his claim to have received Christ, then he will be in paradice.

And thanks to his actions on earth, he would be sent there pronto, through a large number of volts surging through his body, as should happen.

37 posted on 04/24/2003 10:57:12 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: RobRoy
God designed man to be responsible. He designed woman to be mans helpmate

So, women aren't designed to be responsible? Just wondering if that's what you're saying.

38 posted on 04/24/2003 10:58:26 AM PDT by Luna (Evil will not triumph...God is at the helm)
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To: Aliska
>>Doesn't excuse what the man did but women really do provoke some men by their behavior. <<

I believe the legal term is "mitigating circumstances."

And I agree, it doesn't justify the actions.
39 posted on 04/24/2003 10:58:29 AM PDT by RobRoy
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Oh, my God. The children are with Jesus now; that's the only good thing I can think of to say.
40 posted on 04/24/2003 10:59:19 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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