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Iraq need its own set of founding fathers
TownHall.com ^ | Thursday, April 24, 2003 | George Will

Posted on 04/23/2003 11:37:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

WASHINGTON--An old baseball joke: A manager says his team needs just two more players to become a pennant contender. But, he says, ``The players are Ruth and Gehrig.''

Iraq needs only four people to achieve post-Saddam success. Unfortunately they are George Washington, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Marshall.

Since the Second World War, which culminated in many regime changes, the United States has had at least a hand in shaping regimes in many places beyond Japan and Germany, as in Italy, where the CIA helped the democratic parties turn back the Communist challenge in the 1948 elections. U.S. actions have determined, or helped to determine, the nature of regimes in Iran (1953), Guatemala (1954), South Vietnam (the coup that killed President Ngo Dinh Diem in October 1963), Chile (1973), Panama (1989), Nicaragua (via the Contras, 1990) and Afghanistan (2001), among other places.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foundingfathers; georgewill; interimauthority; iraqifreedom; postwariraq
Thursday, April 24, 2003

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1 posted on 04/23/2003 11:37:31 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
Unfortunately they are George Washington, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Marshall.

Don’t know about Marshall, what he said in Marbury v Madison, ”It is emphatically the province and duty of the judicial department to say what the law is. Those who apply the rule to particular cases, must of necessity expound and interpret that rule.” doesn’t jive with Article IV of the U.S. Constitution; “This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.” Kind of sounds like the laws of the several States are supposed to conform to the U.S. Constitution, not the other way around.

2 posted on 04/23/2003 11:49:23 PM PDT by Sauce
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To: Sauce
The above should read "Article VI" not "Article IV of the U.S. Constitution." Sorry about that.
3 posted on 04/24/2003 12:03:30 AM PDT by Sauce
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To: JohnHuang2
This is my list: George Washington, James Madison, Alexander Hamilton and John Adams.

That's why there is only one United States, and there will probably never be another in a 1000 years.

There was a sudden convergence of great men that will never be repeated.

Iraq will take time, it will be no less than 5 years.

4 posted on 04/24/2003 12:12:40 AM PDT by agincourt1415 (UN Corrupt to the core!)
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To: agincourt1415
George Washington, Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, John Jay, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, and Thomas Paine. You’re right about the “convergence of great men that will never be repeated.” Thank Heaven converge they did.
5 posted on 04/24/2003 12:37:52 AM PDT by Sauce
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To: agincourt1415
I'm suprised that many have left out Jefferson, my personal favorite.

But in either case, it should be easier to follow than to lead. Iraq already has an example. What made our founding fathers great is that they managed to forge a republic in a world that had only tyrannts and kings.
6 posted on 04/24/2003 12:44:53 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Sauce
You've got most of those I would add; but forgot: Patrick Henry, Sam Adams, Paul Revere, Dr. Benjamin Rush, and still others! (including some ladies-Abigail Adams, etc...)
7 posted on 04/24/2003 12:48:41 AM PDT by dsutah
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To: JohnHuang2
Unfortunately, the Iraqis already shot and killed one of the contenders.
8 posted on 04/24/2003 9:26:22 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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