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Show of Shia power unsettles the allies
The Times (U.K.) ^ | 04/23/03 | Richard Beeston

Posted on 04/22/2003 2:27:14 PM PDT by Pokey78

SCENES of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi Shia Muslims expressing their newfound political power on the streets of Iraq’s cities are causing growing concern in Western and Arab capitals.

A fortnight after American and British troops deposed Saddam Hussein’s regime, there is a growing consensus that the only credible force to have emerged in the country is the Shia clergy and its followers, many of whom advocate the creation of an Iranian-style Islamic state.

“There is real concern,” a senior British official said. “The Iraqi Shia are the only group to have made any real impact so far. There was a feeling that the Shia were more secular than those in Iran. Now we are not so sure.”

The United States and Britain have vowed to replace Saddam’s dictatorship with a democratic government representing all of Iraq’s ethnic and religious groups.

Jay Garner, the retired US Army general in charge of Iraq’s civil administration, said: “The new government of Iraq will have one leader, one army, one government.”

But that vision of a multi-ethnic democracy could be seriously challenged by the Shia, who make up more than 60 per cent of the Iraqi population and traditionally have been excluded from power by the minority Sunni Muslim community.

Brutalised by decades of oppression by Saddam, the Shias have wasted no time filling the power vacuum left by the overthrow of the Baathist regime. Already Shia clerics are in complete control of the Baghdad suburb of Sadr city, a slum of two million people. They also run several southern towns, including al-Kut and the holy cities of Najaf and Karbala, where a million Shia pilgrims are expected to worship today.

They have also told American and British forces that they will not tolerate any prolonged occupation of Iraq. “In the begining, our opposition to foreign occupation will be expressed by peaceful means,” Sheikh Qaazem al- Nasari, a leading Shia, said. “If, after a certain point, non- violence produces no result, we will then have to decide what to do.”

The threat will not be taken idly. Martyrdom is an integral part of the Shia culture. In the 1980s Shia militants used suicide bombings against US Marines and the American Embassy in Beirut to drive the US out of Lebanon and later Israel.

Three main Shia factions have emerged in Iraq over the past weeks. Sayed Muqtada al-Sadr, 22, whose father and two brothers were killed by Saddam in 1999, is the newest and most aggressive political force in the land. His followers are blamed for the murder of Abdul Majid al-Khoei, a rival Shia leader with close links to Tony Blair and the Bush Administration. He is also accused of intimidating Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani, the most senior Shia religious leader in the country.

Ayatollah Muhammad Baqr al-Hakim, who heads the Supreme Council for Islamic Resistance in Iraq, is supported and armed by Iran. Some Iraqis fear that he plans to return home from exile in Tehran to emulate the late Iranian leader Ayatollah Khomeini, who seized power after the revolution that overthrew the Shah of Iran and established a strict Islamic state.

Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, made clear yesterday that America would not tolerate an Iranian-style theocracy hijacking its plans for democracy in Iraq. The Iraqi state “has to be in accordance with those principles of democratic freedom and tolerance”, he said. “That is not inconsistent with a state that has religious elements to it.”

He added: “Iran certainly is not an example of democracy or a country in which people are free. So certainly we want to make certain that (Saddam’s regime) is not replaced by another type of dictatorship.”

The US military authorities insist that they have plans to address the problem. On Saturday they will host a meeting of Iraqi leaders in Baghdad — part of consultations to encourage leaders to form an interim authority. However, most of the main Shia groups have boycotted the process.

Faleh Jabar, an Iraqi academic at Birkbeck College, London University, said: “These people are winning by default because nothing is being done to encourage the silent majority in Iraq, those who favour a civil administration. What we are witnessing is mob rule. Unless something is done to counter it, the country could be plunged into civil war.”

Nevertheless, the Bush Administration insists that it is still too early to write off hopes of building a democratic future for Iraq. Sources in Washington played down the Shia demonstrations as a predictable expression of post-Saddam fervour, rather than evidence of an overwhelming political force for theocracy.

US officials driving post- conflict policy in Washington see the protests as one of the many political trends among Iraqi Shia. They believe that the more democratic Islamic forces, who hold strong religious views but do not believe in imposing them on others, form a quieter majority that will hold sway in the end.

Washington believes that Shia hardliners, who include a violently anti-Western faction, are so splintered that they will be unable to present a unified position. Officials also believe that ties between the Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, one of the more hardline groups, and Iran will loosen as Iraq’s new government emerges, reducing the influence of Tehran’s conservatives on Iraqi politics.

The line-up of Shia leaders

Grand Ayatollah Ali Sistani

The most senior Shia religious figure in Iraq, he was held under house arrest by Saddam for 15 years. Sistani, 73, is based in Najaf, the centre of Shia religious thought for more than a thousand years. His belief that clerics should advise but not govern is popular with the Americans.

Muqtada al-Sadr

The son of the revered cleric Ayotallah Mohammed Sadeq al-Sadr, murdered by Saddam’s secret police in 1999. Men loyal to al-Sadr, 22, were implicated in the murder last week of Sheikh Majid al-Khoie, a Western-backed rival. He is believed to be behind a move to force Sistani into exile, and is popular with young Shias.

Ayatollah Mohammed Baqer al-Hakim

In Iran since 1980, al-Hakim, 63, is head of the Supreme Council of Islamic Revolution in Iraq, and is backed by Iran. Before the war he was the most prominant Shia leader but many are suspicious of his links with Iran.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alhakim; alsadr; civiladministration; democracy; interimauthority; iraqifreedom; jabar; jaygarner; khomeini; order; powerstruggle; shiamuslims; sistani
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To: risk
It seems to me like the concept of the Senate with the states having equal representation as opposed to the house may have to play a more important role.

The shiites could therefore have at the state level something closer to the theocracy they want, but require the cooperation of both the Kurds, Sunni's and Christians to effect law at the national level.

Another idea might be to have one of the legislative bodies that is made up of representatives of the religious faiths with veto power held by each faith. That would prevent one faith from being trampled at the expense of the other or gerrymandering. As long as the faith has at least x members, the faith has equal representation in this body with veto rights. The downside is that it might make for bitter fights and constant stalemates. Of course the structure of veto overrides would be important.

Certain assets like the oil ports would need to come under federal control. You wouldn't want the Shiites to be able to shut the country down by shutting down the oil ports or taxing them excessively. Same with water.
41 posted on 04/22/2003 4:32:05 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Pokey78
In the 1980s Shia militants used suicide bombings against US Marines and the American Embassy in Beirut to drive the US out of Lebanon...

Well, we have four division there, and the author of this piece makes a good argument to start killing large numbers of these bastards.

Methinks the Persians and Syrians better pay attention, there's a new big dog in the yard.

5.56mm

42 posted on 04/22/2003 4:34:14 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: browardchad
"This is going to be tough, and I think the U.S. is going to have to get tough to pull it off. "

I think there are certain segments that would like to impose their will on the whole country that the US will probably have to get tough with.

The weaker Federal system is going to be harder to pull off. I've been thinking about it and certain assets like oil and water will need to be under the Federal unbrella and not the state's. To weaken the federal system, you may need a predefined split up of the oil revenues and predefined limits on water taxation and usage.

43 posted on 04/22/2003 4:35:30 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Filibuster_60
If it comes down to a choice between two evils, we'll have to go for the lesser one.

We must not let it come down to that choice. Another government supporting terrorism cannot be an acceptable answer.

44 posted on 04/22/2003 4:40:23 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Filibuster_60
"None of us should have expected a liberal democracy to pop out of nowhere. "

One of the keys is a free press with a variety of view points expressed. The Iraqi's need to see the ligitimate concerns of the other groups. They need to see more ways of doing things than what the Shiite religious leaders are advancing. They need to think through the pros and cons of different systems.

It's going to be a massive education process to be able to hammer out a government that has substantial buy in from the populous.

45 posted on 04/22/2003 4:44:07 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Pokey78
The time may arrive that we use the gun, or we walk away and leave them to their own misery. I suspect the latter.
46 posted on 04/22/2003 4:49:54 PM PDT by cynicom
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Col. Hunt is a gas. But Major Bob B. is often even more 'colorful' in his choice of words!
47 posted on 04/22/2003 5:05:59 PM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: risk
Re: Iranian meddling - recommended reading: The Hunt for Bin Laden reveals Iran's predisposition for screwing around outside its borders. (Can't wait for the hammer to come down and avenge the 444 days' imprisonment).
48 posted on 04/22/2003 5:06:00 PM PDT by onehipdad
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
Just what Iraq needs...an Islamic state like Iran has. With 60% of the population being Shia, the US has it's work cut out for it. They're the ones now calling for the US to leave now. They can hardly wait to install Shia law and cleanse Iraq of other factions.

But on the other hand, it could be the unraveling of the Shia control ----they're having enough trouble keeping control of the Iranians who are on the verge of revolution ----maybe the ayatollahs would be biting off more than they can chew by trying to control 40% of non-Shia Iraqis who probably would love to kill them.

49 posted on 04/22/2003 5:08:05 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Pokey78
They have also told American and British forces that they will not tolerate any prolonged occupation of Iraq.

Yeah right. Just like you refused to tolerate Saddam Hussein.

50 posted on 04/22/2003 5:20:44 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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To: He Rides A White Horse
These Shiite-for-brains losers are so insane for their imaginary religion that many will have to be eliminated in order for the Iraqis with minds (and the rest of the world) to live in peace.
51 posted on 04/22/2003 8:12:05 PM PDT by manic4organic
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To: manic4organic
Brutalised by decades of oppression by Saddam, and incited by the clerics in Iran the Shias have wasted no time filling the power vacuum left by the overthrow of the Baathist regime.
52 posted on 04/22/2003 8:31:30 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse
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