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Assault Weapons and Assaults on the Constitution
House Web Site ^ | April 21, 2003 | Rep. Ron Paul

Posted on 04/22/2003 5:15:55 AM PDT by Beenliedto

Weapons and Assaults on the Constitution

The Bush administration recently surprised and angered many pro-gun conservatives by announcing its support for an assault weapons ban passed in 1994. The law contained a ten-year sunset provision, and is set to expire in 2004 unless reauthorized by Congress. A spokesman for the administration stated flatly that the President “supports the current law, and he supports reauthorization of the current law.”

Perhaps this should have surprised no one. President Bush already stated his support for the ban during the 2000 campaign. The irony is that he did so even as the Democratic Party was abandoning gun control as a losing issue. In fact, many attribute Gore’s loss to his lack of support among gun owners. The events of September 11th also dealt a serious blow to the gun control movement, as millions of Americans realized they could not rely on government to protect them against terrorism. Gun sales have predictably increased.

Given this trend in the American electorate away from support for gun control, the administration’s position may well cost votes in 2004. The mistaken political premise is that while Republicans generally support gun rights, so-called “assault weapons” are different and must be controlled. The administration clearly believes that moderate voters from both parties support the ban. “Who could possibly need such weapons?” is the standard question posed by gun control advocates.

Few people asking that question, however, know much about the banned weapons or the Second amendment itself. The law in question bans many very ordinary types of rifles and ammunition, while limiting magazine capacity for both rifles and pistols that are still legal. Many of the vilified “assault rifles” outlawed by the ban are in fact sporting rifles that are no longer available to hunters and outdoorsmen. Of course true military-style automatic rifles remain widely available to criminals on the black market. So practically speaking, the assault weapons ban does nothing to make us safer.

More importantly, however, the debate about certain types of weapons ignores the fundamental purpose of the Second amendment. The Second amendment is not about hunting deer or keeping a pistol in your nightstand. It is not about protecting oneself against common criminals. It is about preventing tyranny. The Founders knew that unarmed citizens would never be able to overthrow a tyrannical government as they did. They envisioned government as a servant, not a master, of the American people. The muskets they used against the British Army were the assault rifles of the time. It is practical, rather than alarmist, to understand that unarmed citizens cannot be secure in their freedoms. It’s convenient for gun banners to dismiss this argument by saying “That could never happen here, this is America”- but history shows that only vigilant people can keep government under control. By banning certain weapons today, we may plant the seeds for tyranny to flourish ten, thirty, or fifty years from now.

Tortured interpretations of the Second amendment cannot change the fact that both the letter of the amendment itself and the legislative history conclusively show that the Founders intended ordinary citizens to be armed. The notion that the Second amendment confers rights only upon organized state-run militias is preposterous; the amendment is meaningless unless it protects the gun rights of individuals. Georgetown University professor Robert Levy recently offered this simple explanation:

“Suppose the Second amendment said ‘A well-educated electorate being necessary for self-governance in a free state, the right of the people to keep and read books shall not be infringed.’ Is there anyone who would suggest that means only registered voters have a right to read?”


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Look who else is upset with George.
1 posted on 04/22/2003 5:15:56 AM PDT by Beenliedto
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To: Beenliedto
Does anyone know the exact date this sunsets?
2 posted on 04/22/2003 5:21:36 AM PDT by stevio
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To: stevio
I believe on the 10th anniversary of it's enaction, which would be Sept.13, 2003.
3 posted on 04/22/2003 5:24:58 AM PDT by bullseye1911
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To: bullseye1911
So there is a good chance this won't even get to President Bush's desk. I don't think my congressman will vote for it.

BTW Mr. Toomey is running for Sen. Spector's seat in Pa., all the support we can get will help the country.

4 posted on 04/22/2003 5:28:14 AM PDT by stevio
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To: Beenliedto
Yep - and look at the huge decrease in crimes involving so-called "assault weapons". [/ sarcasm off]

This issue goes way beyond reduction in crime or violence, as crimes involving "assault weaons" was not a huge problem. As we know, more people are killed annualy here by medical malpractice than with firearms, much less "assault weapons". What this is realy about is people control.

In the case of GW supporting the ban, I believe he is just pandering to the left in an attempt to look more moderate. Unfotunately, he looks like a liar/traitor to those of us in the pro-2nd amendment crowd who believe that he took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
5 posted on 04/22/2003 5:29:19 AM PDT by TheBattman (Kid Control, not Gun Control)
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To: bullseye1911
September 13, 2004 is the sunset date...

Mike

6 posted on 04/22/2003 5:31:33 AM PDT by BCR #226
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To: bullseye1911
Sorry I stand corrected---Sunset would be Sept. 13,2004. 10 yrs.
7 posted on 04/22/2003 5:33:26 AM PDT by bullseye1911 (I'm still the product of public education)
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To: stevio
"So there is a good chance this won't even get to President Bush's desk. I don't think my congressman will vote for it."

If the US House leadership cooperates they could refuse to allow it to come to the floor for a vote in the first place - just let it die. I know that sounds too easy. The wimpy Senate will probably re-authorize it or tack it on as an amendment to some other legislation.

8 posted on 04/22/2003 5:34:52 AM PDT by Commiewatcher
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To: bullseye1911
It sunsets in September of 2004. The worst part is that Democrats and Republicans alike want the issue cleared up well before then.
9 posted on 04/22/2003 5:35:44 AM PDT by Cloud William
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To: Beenliedto
Well Bush promised to sign it and he got elected with gun owners support

But then he also said he would veto CFR
10 posted on 04/22/2003 5:59:15 AM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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To: Cloud William
GW probably thinks that he can straddle the fence on this, by keeping the ban he will appease the gun banners and yet by winking at the obvious exceptions available to the ban, he will satisfy gun owners.

Well he may get by with it, but it would be a much more courageous thing to do to oppose the law and let it sunset. He stood up to Iraq and Afghanistan because it was right, now he should stand up to the unconstitutional gun banners.

11 posted on 04/22/2003 6:02:14 AM PDT by Sender
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To: TheBattman
I don't think that President Bush is pandering to the left. If he is pandering at all, it is to that part of the electorate that doesn't understand guns and are afraid of them, to wit, women.

Also, he is cognizant of those "independents" (those, it seems, who tend to have no firmly-held set of political values that puts them in either the Democratic or Republican camps) who are like that subset of women who are "against" guns.

Our job is to make sure that this legislation never gets out of the House of Representatives. Forget about the Senate; that's a lost cause (too many Democrats and wimpy Republicans).
12 posted on 04/22/2003 6:03:05 AM PDT by OldPossum
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To: Beenliedto
Bush has nothing to do with reauthorizing the bill. Congress does that. He can veto it if it makes it to him, but that's about it.

Job 1 is to see to it that Congress does not pass reauthorization legislation. Then it does not matter how much Bush supports or doesn't support it.

I have written my Senators and Congressman about this already. I hope other people do the same.
13 posted on 04/22/2003 6:07:23 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: Beenliedto
http://www.jpfo.com/
14 posted on 04/22/2003 6:22:30 AM PDT by society-by-contract
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To: Beenliedto
Bush is on top now, at the height of his popularity. There are nearly 2 years to the next election, and the economy is not doing so well. This sounds strikingly like the situation 12 years ago. GWB won by the narrowest of majorities in 2000, and is President ONLY because the gunowners in Arkansas, Tennessee and West Virginia voted for him over Gore. One would think that he and his political advisors would be mindful of these facts, and would do everything that they could to avoid a repeat of '92. Selling out a core constituency like gun owners, esp. when they put him over the top in 2000, seems awfully foolish to me.

I'd also like to know how many anti-gun women and girly-men will vote for GWB if he doesn't veto a reauthorization? Remember, these are the same people that can't stand his stance on the War on Terror, the environment, the role of government in our society, the economy, etc. How many of these folks, who believe that Bush is a bumbling, incompetent tool of the VRWC will really vote for him for signing one particular law, when his Democrapic opponent will be able to claim a long list of anti-gun "accomplishments?" The answer is probably well under 10,000 across the nation. The flip side of the coin is that at least a couple hundred thousand, and perhaps a couple of million, will simply not go to the polls when betrayed like this. They, their money and their time will disappear, hurting Republicans across the country.

I know that Bush IS a very smart guy, and that he's gone out of his way to avoid his father's mistakes. In light of that, and the facts/opinions cited above, I am extremely perplexed by this latest statement - especially in view of how the (many-times-burned) Democraps are running away from the issue. All that I can say is that I didn't vote for Bush's dad in '92, largely because of HIS stance on guns (i.e. the politically-motivated Executive Order in '89, banning the importation of foreign "assault rifles," which opened the floodgates for all of the anti-gun legislation in the 90's), and I will do the same regarding GWB in 2004 if he allows the Constitution to be shafted again. Just as in '88, this policy is NOT what I voted for in 2000 - and I will not stand for being lied to AGAIN.

15 posted on 04/22/2003 10:30:57 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
16 posted on 04/22/2003 10:31:35 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: Beenliedto
Thought the article might be about the frigate in Boston Harbor. White oak ought to hold up well against assault rifles.
17 posted on 04/22/2003 10:36:44 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: Beenliedto
For a little take on Bush 41 and how his Assault Weapon import ban may have cost HIM re-election, read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/896043/posts
18 posted on 04/22/2003 12:58:04 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bush has nothing to do with reauthorizing the bill. Congress does that. He can veto it if it makes it to him, but that's about it.

Note that if there is anything done to the renewal that would make it worse than the current act, Bush could veto it without having to worry about any promise he made re its renewal.

19 posted on 04/22/2003 3:09:10 PM PDT by supercat (TAG--you're it!)
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To: supercat
Note that if there is anything done to the renewal that would make it worse than the current act, Bush could veto it without having to worry about any promise he made re its renewal.

It is my sincere hope that he is subtley (who knows if that is spelled correctly?) trying to encourage the Dims to add all kinds of crap to the renewal bill, with the purposeful goal of letting them paint themselves even further into that little corner on the left side of the room - and to then veto and be able to campaign as a 2nd Amendment defender. As I said, I know that he's smart and that he's learned lessons from his father's '92 loss - but if THIS is what actually occurs, he will be a real political genius. However, in the meantime a core constituency of the Republican Party is pretty ticked off - he really needs to do something along the lines of what you mentioned.

20 posted on 04/22/2003 10:34:00 PM PDT by Ancesthntr
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