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Gay Groups Ask Senate GOP to Reconsider Santorum Post After 'insensitive' Remarks
AP ^ | 4/21/03 | Lara Jakes Jordan

Posted on 04/21/2003 2:39:07 PM PDT by Jean S

WASHINGTON (AP) - Gay-rights groups, fuming over Sen. Rick Santorum's comparison of homosexuality to bigamy, polygamy, incest and adultery, urged Republican leaders Monday to consider removing the Pennsylvania lawmaker from the GOP Senate leadership.

A coalition of groups in Washington and Pennsylvania compared Santorum's remarks to those by those last December by former Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott about Strom Thurmond's 1948 segregationist campaign for the presidency. Shortly afterward, Lott was forced to resign as Republican Senate leader.

Santorum is chairman of the GOP conference in the Senate, third in his party's leadership, behind Majority Leader Bill Frist of Tennessee and Assistant Majority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky.

"We're urging the Republican leadership to condemn the remarks. They were stunning in their sensitivity, and they're the same types of remarks that sparked outrage toward Sen. Lott," said David Smith, a spokesman for the Human Rights Campaign, the nation's largest gay advocacy organization. "We would ask that the leadership reconsider his standing within the conference leadership."

In an interview with The Associated Press, Santorum criticized homosexuality while discussing a pending Supreme Court case over a Texas sodomy law.

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything," Santorum, R-Pa., said in the interview, published Monday.

Santorum's spokeswoman did not have an immediate comment to the criticism from the gay rights groups. The White House did not immediately return a call seeking comment, and a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Frist declined comment.

Lott resigned his post in December after making remarks at a 100th birthday celebration for Thurmond that were widely considered racially insensitive and condemned by the White House. Lott later apologized.

Among the groups condemning Santorum's remarks were the Center for Lesbian and Gay Civil Rights, the Pennsylvania Log Cabin Republicans, OutFront, and the Pennsylvania Gender Rights Coalition.

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On the Net:

Sen. Rick Santorum: http://santorum.senate.gov/

Human Rights Campaign: http://www.hrc.org/

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: catholiclist; homosexualagenda; moralrelativism; ricksantorum
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To: Gritty
You walk a mile in those shoes, if you can stand the stench!

You're just ashamed that their shoes are so much more stylish than yours.
61 posted on 04/21/2003 6:16:42 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: B Knotts
It seems to me that it is awfully hard to defend laws against polygamy (involving consenting adults, obviously) if you allow homosexual "marriage."

Given that allowing homosexual marriage would simply require removing a single restriction on the persons engaging in the contract while allowing polygamous marriages would require a complete restructuring of the legal framework as a consequences of having more than two persons involved, I beg to differ.

Whether you agree with one, both or neither, same-gender marriage is a very different issue than polygamous marriage.
62 posted on 04/21/2003 6:20:09 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: johnb838
I don't think Rick Santorum blows with the wind the way Trent Lott does. I hope he would tell these people that he calls 'em like he see's 'em.

Yes,everyone wanted Trent Lott out - so they allowed the President and his people to go along with and use racial politics to get what they wanted. They used racial politics to try to get Estrada approved.

That is playing with fire and it is really bad. You can't feed that monster and not expect it to grow and come back to get you. It is an evil that has a life of its own. The only way it can be contained is not feed it - and that means not using it for what you might deem a 'good cause'. There is no such thing. All Republicans that condoned the witch hunt that was the Trent Lott debacle should be really proud. Everytime it is used against anyone in this country, remember the Republican party helped to keep it alive,and make it stronger.

63 posted on 04/21/2003 6:30:40 PM PDT by nanny
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To: JeanS
screw the gay crowd
64 posted on 04/21/2003 6:32:33 PM PDT by The Wizard (Saddamocrats are enemies of America)
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To: JeanS
"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to bigamy, you have the right to polygamy, you have the right to incest, you have the right to adultery. You have the right to anything," Santorum, R-Pa., said in the interview, published Monday.

Wow, that's stone cold stupid, Sen. Santorum. I suggest an Intro to Logic class and a Constitutional Law course or two. The things in your list only have one thing in common-- they are sexual acts. There are dozens of differences, though.

This is what your argument is:

"If the Supreme Court says that you have the right to consensual (gay) sex within your home, then you have the right to consensual heterosexual sex in your home."

There is NOTHING to stop a state in your mind and Scalia's mind from doing just that. There is NOTHING to stop a state from saying that you can't tell your wife she was good in bed if she was actually an ice queen-- no fibbing in the bedroom. Nothing stopping the prohibition of the missionary position.

Jeez, I used to respect him, but I guess all those time Santorum came up near the bottom of the intelligence surveys from fellow senators that it was dead on.

65 posted on 04/21/2003 6:39:06 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: RAT Patrol
If the GOP caves to this (not commenting is at least a good sign), I will be angry. I am trying not to get worked up about everything so I just ignored the gay meeting as a political outreach, but removing or censoring Santorum would be a major move and time for some huge Freep action.
66 posted on 04/21/2003 6:39:53 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (God Reigns!)
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To: Ingtar
Just brace yourself for when the government says your lifestyle is an alternate one. Do you want Hildebeast to have that kind of power?
67 posted on 04/21/2003 6:40:27 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: Emmylou; Protagoras
Should we ping Protagoras? These threads are getting repetitive.
68 posted on 04/21/2003 6:44:13 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: JeanS
Ooops. "times"
69 posted on 04/21/2003 6:47:29 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (Putting government in charge of morality is like putting pedophiles in charge of children.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Without moral citizens and a moral government -- you have slavery and tyranny.
70 posted on 04/21/2003 7:47:47 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: GraniteStateConservative; Emmylou
If if you read only the conclusion adjoining the link at #17, these are historical - albeit values-driven - allusions which, even secularly, are difficult to refute.

Western civilization was, is and can only be best served by its continuation by what has brought it about. And that is the the realization of the sexual ideal - and hence, procreation in marriage, and our progeny's aclimatazation and acculturation chiefly through God, Country and the generational continuation of these themes.

The contrary is, well...just...decivilizational!

Quite.

71 posted on 04/21/2003 8:35:33 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: JeanS
Rick Santorum has my vote, now and forever. (I'm speaking as a PA Republican.)
72 posted on 04/21/2003 8:38:19 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: Emmylou; GatorGirl; maryz; *Catholic_list; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; Askel5; ...
Nanny-state 'it's fer the chilrun' isn't any better coming from the right.

OK, then in your view what role should the State play in regulating sex? Are licenses for weddings appropriate? If so, why NOT same-sex weddings? Why NOT multi-partner weddings?

What about pay-for-sex? Are business licenses appropriate? How about sex education? Is the government supposed to play a role there?

What age limits would you concede the law ought to place on "consenting adults"? 21? 18? 16? 14? 12? What rule do you endorse for choosing such an age restriction and who made you the arbiter?

73 posted on 04/22/2003 4:33:14 AM PDT by narses (Christe Eleison)
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To: JeanS
Well, Santorum has the benefit of being right. This can't possibly play-out as the Lott incident because the average American would agree with his statement. Why NOT compare a committed gay relationship to polygamy or bigamy or incest? It was taboo in the very same way gay sex was taboo until the leftwing agenda started pushing gay rights. In fact, this might be a good thing. It will bring into the open an in-your-face attitude on the part of homosexuals that most Americans find repulsive.

This will definitely backfire for one reason and one reason only: Santorum is articulate, sane, not a phony and he will come across as such. He will defend himself in forum after forum and will win the debate in each and every one. He will simply make his case: gay sex is an aberation. So is polygamy and incest. Why shouldn't the Supreme Court acknowledge these as well? Where do we draw the moral line? The point on the part of the left, of course, is that we don't. Anything goes with them.
74 posted on 04/22/2003 4:51:33 AM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: JeanS
Gay-rights groups, fuming over Sen. Rick Santorum's

They HATE this man because they hated Jesus first! Rick Santorum is the antithesis to these immoral reprobates; they know it and hate it. Besides, they want his Christianspeak out of the senate. The GOP does not need them. PERIOD!

75 posted on 04/22/2003 6:00:03 AM PDT by ThomasMore
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To: Dimensio
I am not talking legislatively; I am speaking about morality.

On what legitimate moral basis can one prohibit polygamy among consenting adults, while allowing homosexual "marriage?"

76 posted on 04/22/2003 6:37:57 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: rwfromkansas
I understand where you're coming from, rw. I think Racicot is a big worry, but I am encouraged by Santorum's words.
77 posted on 04/22/2003 7:00:50 AM PDT by RAT Patrol (Congress can give one American a dollar only by first taking it away from another American. -W.W.)
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