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Moon: Anti-war group: great examples of stupidity
Online Athens ^ | 4/20/03 | Garry Moon

Posted on 04/21/2003 6:01:15 AM PDT by CFW

The anti-war crowd has been feeling considerable discomfort in recent days, given the widespread criticism they have been suffering ever since the head of Saddam Hussein's decapitated statue was dragged with glee through the streets of Baghdad a couple of weeks ago.

One such beleaguered fellow is Tim Robbins, the Hollywood actor whose scheduled appearance at the Baseball Hall of Fame was scratched because of his nonsensical rants about the Iraq war. Robbins believes the First Amendment is at risk: ''Every day the airwaves are filled with warnings, veiled and unveiled threats, spewed invective and hatred directed at any voice of dissent.''

Point of clarification for Mr. Robbins and other fuzzy-thinking leftists: the First Amendment states ''Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech.'' Pretty straightforward, no? It says Congress shall make no law prohibiting Tim Robbins from babbling any type of nonsense he wishes. Nowhere does it say that those of us not in Congress have to sit still and listen without comment to the twaddle he and others spew forth.

Too many liberals believe freedom of speech means freedom from criticism, and that if you speak rubbish there should be no consequences. Now normally one would merely ignore the inanities coming from the fanatical anti-war types and their cousins in Hollywood; however, the level of patent absurdities erupting from these people has reached such a crescendo in recent weeks (despite the fact they have been proven wrong every step of the way), that some Americans have finally had enough and are saying: please, oh please shut your foolish trap about things you demonstrably know nothing about.

Consider:

Janeane Garofalo, Hollywood actress-turned-anti-war shill (in response to Fox News Channel's Bill O'Reilly, who asked her what she would do if the United States ''liberates Iraq with people in the street, American flags, hugging our soldiers''): ''I hope to God that I can be made a buffoon of, that people will say, 'You were wrong. You were a fatalist.'''

Don't worry, Janeane - you were already a buffoon even before you were proven wrong.

Gary Hart, possible Democratic presidential candidate: ''I bet you in the Pentagon the military planning assumes 5,000 to 10,000 American casualties and at least 100,000 to 250,000 civilian casualties in downtown Baghdad.''

Not even close, Gary - no future in Vegas odds-making for you.

Scott Ritter, erstwhile U.N. weapons inspector and newfound darling of the left: ''We do not have the military means to take over Baghdad and for this reason I believe the defeat of the United States in this war is inevitable.''

No wonder bumbling U.N. inspectors could never find weapons in Iraq, if Ritter is representative of their mental competence.

Mark Morford, opinion columnist for the San Francisco Chronicle: ''These are the last days of relative calm before we start bombing and massacring hundreds of thousands of people and in so doing enter into what many believe will a very long, drawn-out, insanely expensive, volatile, destabilizing, completely unwinnable war.''

Well Mark, hundreds of thousands were indeed massacred in Iraq, but it was long before this war began. Oh, that was just Saddam doing the massacring - no need for any hyperbolic columns in that case.

Now that the Iraq war has been won in such a stunning fashion, people such as the ditzy Dixie Chicks (who bashed the commander-in-chief before a foreign audience), the execrable Harry Belafonte (who called Secretary of State Colin Powell a "house slave" for supporting President Bush on Iraq), the strident Sean Penn (another actor who pontificates about foreign policy but didn't even have the good sense to not marry Madonna), and their ilk are suffering the slings and arrows of an annoyed public.

As R.W. ''Johnny'' Apple of the New York Times wrote last week, ''the anti-war forces, who have had to contend from the start with the widespread belief that their position is unpatriotic and unsupportive of American troops engaged in deadly combat, must now bear the additional burden of arguing with success. American losses are relatively small: 96 dead to date, compared with 200 a day at the height of the Vietnam War.'' Yes Johnny, it's a terrible shame that too few American soldiers are dying and thus making the anti-war cause look bad.

So fear not for the First Amendment - all of the above were free to speak their minds without the least hint of Congress outlawing freedom of speech. Perhaps it could even be codified in a new Miranda-type statement: ''You have the right to remain stupid...''


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: liberals; stupid

1 posted on 04/21/2003 6:01:15 AM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW
ROTFLMAO Bump
3 posted on 04/21/2003 6:05:15 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush
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To: CFW
Too many liberals believe freedom of speech means freedom from criticism...

...and they also believe that freedom of speech means other people have to listen to them.

4 posted on 04/21/2003 6:05:17 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help support terrorism.)
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To: CFW
''You have the right to remain stupid...''

... many of these people are also useful idiots being used and manipulated by enemies of this nation.

They do have the right to remain stupid ... but sometimes, like with Professor De Genova of Columbia University, when he publicly called for our own forces to repeat what the Muslim Sgt. in the 101st did, it crosses the line into sedition, and at that point it should be made an example of.

Winning Iraqi Freedom

5 posted on 04/21/2003 6:10:25 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: CFW
You aren't quite right about the left's view of the 1st Ammendment. What they really mean is that only one side (theirs) gets to speak. They miss the old days when the media was 100% theirs! It made it easier to control the "sheep".

MARK A SITY
http://www.logic101.net/
6 posted on 04/21/2003 6:19:12 AM PDT by logic101.net (Support OUR Troops; Not Saddam's!)
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To: CFW
This is the new reality that the left wing maggots can't get used to. They can still prattle their hate America spew. Now we can say no thank you and respond back with our feelings as protected by the first amendment.

Point of clarification for Mr. Robbins and other fuzzy-thinking leftists: the First Amendment states ''Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech.'' Pretty straightforward, no? It says Congress shall make no law prohibiting Tim Robbins from babbling any type of nonsense he wishes. Nowhere does it say that those of us not in Congress have to sit still and listen without comment to the twaddle he and others spew forth.

Too many liberals believe freedom of speech means freedom from criticism, and that if you speak rubbish there should be no consequences. Now normally one would merely ignore the inanities coming from the fanatical anti-war types and their cousins in Hollywood; however, the level of patent absurdities erupting from these people has reached such a crescendo in recent weeks (despite the fact they have been proven wrong every step of the way), that some Americans have finally had enough and are saying: please, oh please shut your foolish trap about things you demonstrably know nothing about.

7 posted on 04/21/2003 6:20:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: Grampa Dave
Freedom of speech applies to the U.S. Government's action only! If I call my boss an asshole, it it highly likely that I will lose my job. If I piss off a customer, it is likely that I will lose that customer. Where do celeb elites get this idea that the 1st Ammendment relieves them from responsibility for what they write or say?

People have always been held accountable for their actions including their statements. Of course they have a right to express themselves just as I have a right not to buy their product if I choose not to agree with them. That's my freedom of expression. If the Dixie Chicks' album sales have decreased by 50% it is because they pissed off 50% of their previous customer base. Shame on them for being so stupid. They failed to stop and consider that many of their fans were in the military, had relatives or friends in the military, or were in favor of the war for whatever reason.

They also underestimated the ability of the speed at which their actions would be communicated in spite of the left leaning media! In these days where we get much of our news via the internet or other non-conventional channels, Americans are once again beginning to talk to each other. Free communications between people is the single biggest threat to the socialist movement which has been crammed down our throats for the past decade. E-mail and forums are getting the word out and liberals can no longer hide behind the propaganda spewed by the leftist media.

So, Hollywood, think about what you say first because we are listening.


8 posted on 04/21/2003 6:48:11 AM PDT by GreyWolf (You don't have to be a Boy Scout to Be Prepared!)
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To: GreyWolf
Thanks for posting the realities of Free Speech.

Freedom of speech applies to the U.S. Government's action only! If I call my boss an asshole, it it highly likely that I will lose my job. If I piss off a customer, it is likely that I will lose that customer. Where do celeb elites get this idea that the 1st Ammendment relieves them from responsibility for what they write or say?

People have always been held accountable for their actions including their statements. Of course they have a right to express themselves just as I have a right not to buy their product if I choose not to agree with them. That's my freedom of expression. If the Dixie Chicks' album sales have decreased by 50% it is because they pissed off 50% of their previous customer base. Shame on them for being so stupid. They failed to stop and consider that many of their fans were in the military, had relatives or friends in the military, or were in favor of the war for whatever reason.

Thanks to the internet, Free Republic, Fox News and conservaive talk radio, we get the word out very quickly of the trash talk that comes from these left wing maggots.

Then we use our rights not to buy anything from these maggots and to make reality a real bitch for them.

They can't stand that reality after they open their trash mouths.

9 posted on 04/21/2003 7:03:37 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Being a Monthly Donor to Free Republic is the Right Thing to do!)
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To: GreyWolf
They also underestimated the ability of the speed at which their actions would be communicated in spite of the left leaning media! In these days where we get much of our news via the internet or other non-conventional channels, Americans are once again beginning to talk to each other. Free communications between people is the single biggest threat to the socialist movement which has been crammed down our throats for the past decade. E-mail and forums are getting the word out and liberals can no longer hide behind the propaganda spewed by the leftist media.

Good post. I believe this how the 2002 elections did as well as they did. Freeping polls, sending mass emails, etc. really works. The independent media(cable,internet forums, etc) is being used alot more these days than the conventional network drivel.....

10 posted on 04/21/2003 7:22:02 AM PDT by cardinal4 (The Senate Armed Services Comm; the Chinese pipeline into US secrets)
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To: CFW
Bump!
11 posted on 04/21/2003 7:28:21 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (It'll all come out in the wash.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
So fear not for the First Amendment - all of the above were free to speak their minds without the least hint of Congress outlawing freedom of speech. Perhaps it could even be codified in a new Miranda-type statement: ''You have the right to remain stupid...''

Can we use this preamble just prior to the Sunday morning talking heads shows.

I can just hear it. "Okay Sen. Daschle, before we get started, "You have the right to remain stupid...."

12 posted on 04/21/2003 7:50:33 AM PDT by CFW
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"Now that the Iraq war has been won in such a stunning fashion, people such as the ditzy Dixie Chicks (who bashed the commander-in-chief before a foreign audience), the execrable Harry Belafonte (who called Secretary of State Colin Powell a "house slave" for supporting President Bush on Iraq). . ."

Jeez, Belafonte! Is that guy still alive????

. . . the strident Sean Penn (another actor who pontificates about foreign policy but didn't even have the good sense to not marry Madonna. . ."

Nuff said!!!
13 posted on 04/21/2003 9:05:17 AM PDT by NFOShekky (Lone Tomcat in the Hen House)
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