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From page 488 et seq. of the 5th printing.
1 posted on 04/18/2003 3:25:56 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed
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2 posted on 04/18/2003 3:26:19 PM PDT by Atlas Sneezed ("Democracy, whiskey! And sexy!")
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To: Beelzebubba
Of course, Clinton's economy rhetoric and Perot's vote-sapping had NOTHING to do with Bush 41 leaving office... nothing at all...
3 posted on 04/18/2003 3:28:29 PM PDT by Terpfen
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To: Beelzebubba
We need to come up with a way to defuse these
one issue Republicans.
They say if you don't agree with my one issue,
we will keep democrats in power to punish any-
one who doesn't agree one hundred percent with
my one issue!
4 posted on 04/18/2003 3:29:33 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ( Taxes are not levied for the benefit of the taxed.)
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To: Beelzebubba
hahahahahaha Bush 41 lost because he RAISED TAXES and RAN A HORRIBLE RE-ELECTION CAMPAIGN, and also had the press overwhelmingly ejaculating over his Democratic opponent... may not like the Ban on "assault weapons"... but that's not what cost him the election
7 posted on 04/18/2003 3:36:51 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Beelzebubba
There is no way I would vote for a democrat, but if Bush signs a renewal of the "assault Rifle" ban, I am staying home.

Call it half a vote against him.

So9

10 posted on 04/18/2003 3:41:54 PM PDT by Servant of the Nine (We are the Hegemon. We can do anything we damned well please.)
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To: Beelzebubba

Something about this doesn't make any sense. The assault weapons ban is not due to expire until September 2004. That means that any struggle to renew it will be going on as the 2004 elections approach.

Many people in the Democratic Party believe that Al Gore would be President today were it not for his stand on gun control. They think it cost him several states, including his home state of Tennessee. Not many Democrats, therefore, will be all that anxious to champion this renewal. The usual suspects from states like New York and California will certainly be trumpeting the cause, but they are likely to see less support than they'd like from their colleagues in less urban states.

Left to proceed on its own, an assault weapons ban renewal is likely to be a big issue for the media, Chuck, Hillary, and Diane... and that's about it. Most Republicans will be against it, and most Democrats will be hiding in a bunker until it goes away. The likelihood of it getting through the Senate, let alone the House, is near zero.

So why would the White House send some "spokesman" (you'll notice it wasn't Bush, Ari, or Karl) out to raise this issue more than a year before it is likely to come up in Congress? The White House could have ignored the whole thing; odds are it will never land on Bush's desk. Why take a position at all? And if you're going to take one, why take one that will be as popular with the base as "read my lips"?

This is not what it seems, folks. Bush has no reason to start crusading for a renewal of the assault weapons ban 16 months before it's due. It's not his issue, and it isn't time. Even if he was going to crusade for it, he wouldn't have sent some under-assistant deputy spokesman out to sound the trumpet.

This is some kind of Stategery. It's probably intended to bait the Dems into doing something stupid.


14 posted on 04/18/2003 3:56:38 PM PDT by Nick Danger (We have imprisoned them in their tanks -- Baghdad Bob)
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To: Beelzebubba
Bush lost for one reason: Ross Perot. Nothing more, nothing less.
15 posted on 04/18/2003 3:57:29 PM PDT by GunRunner
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To: Beelzebubba; All
can anyone tell me if a child is prescribed ritalin, do they lose their second ammendment rights? ability to get a CCW permit?

I know this is not directly related but there is another thread where this would be useful.
16 posted on 04/18/2003 3:57:57 PM PDT by longtermmemmory
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To: Beelzebubba
Of course Bush Jr. could use the renewing of the "Assault Weapons Import Ban" as leverage to get the tax cuts HE WANTS passed through the Senate.
17 posted on 04/18/2003 3:59:17 PM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Beelzebubba
up
19 posted on 04/18/2003 4:03:44 PM PDT by always vigilant
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To: Beelzebubba
Hang on a moment, if it's just an import ban on assault weapons...who wanted to buy a gun from abroad anyway? America makes the best guns as it is!

Regards, Ivan

24 posted on 04/18/2003 4:08:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Beelzebubba
That book was a GREAT read. The political and social aspects were just part of the package. I've rarely read a novel where the author was so well informed and had such detailed knowledge on such a variety of issues.

John Ross caught quite a bit of hell after writing it including having his family harassed. When I heard our government considers it "subversive" reading, I made sure I paid with my credit card when I purchased it. They think such stupidity as flagging book buyers empowers them, when in reality it empowers us if you think about it.

25 posted on 04/18/2003 4:13:32 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: Beelzebubba
And of course, we were SOOOOOOOO MUCH BETTER with Klinton.

[sarcasm off]
34 posted on 04/18/2003 4:26:47 PM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Beelzebubba
Nonsense!
40 posted on 04/18/2003 4:31:30 PM PDT by verity
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To: Beelzebubba
Great Book.
45 posted on 04/18/2003 4:38:24 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("I have two guns. One for each of ya." - Doc Holliday)
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To: Beelzebubba
Ya! And Bush isn't supporting the rights of the unborn..HE HAS TO GO NOW!
76 posted on 04/18/2003 5:18:23 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: Beelzebubba
And what about that Campaign Finance Reform law and, and, Homeland Security! DAMMIT WE NEED AL GORE!
80 posted on 04/18/2003 5:19:43 PM PDT by Bob J (Freerepublic.net...where it's always a happening....)
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To: Beelzebubba
What a joke, I'm pro gun but I'm not going to throw the election to some gun grabbing leftist over assault weapons. No way that this cost Bush I the election, Ross Perot did.
101 posted on 04/18/2003 6:16:40 PM PDT by John Lenin (I was the kid next door's imaginary friend)
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To: Beelzebubba
Screams of "Yeah!," "Damn right!," and "That's it!" came amidst tremendous applause from the several dozen people who had been standing around listening.

Yeah! Damn right! That's it!

130 posted on 04/18/2003 9:24:34 PM PDT by Eagle Eye (There ought to be a law against excessive legislation.)
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To: Squantos
Read later !
143 posted on 04/18/2003 11:09:15 PM PDT by Squantos (Cum catapultae proscriptae erunt tum soli proscript catapultas habebunt.)
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