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Why have the war critics been so wrong?
SAN DIEGO UNION TRIBUNE ^ | 4-11-2003 | Joseph Perkins

Posted on 04/18/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT by Jimbaugh

Why have the war critics been so wrong?

Joseph Perkins
SAN DIEGO UNION-TRIBUNE
April 11, 2003

Forgive me for engaging in a little "triumphalism." I'm darn proud of our men and women in uniform. They came, they saw, they kicked Saddam's posterior.

In a mere three weeks. And "with less than half the ground forces and two-thirds of the air assets used 12 years ago in Desert Storm," as Vice President Dick Cheney noted this week.

As coalition forces mop up in Iraq, the focus turns to the post-war campaign – getting humanitarian aid to the needful Iraqi people; installing an interim government in Baghdad; figuring out a post-war role for the United Nations.

But before we close the books on Operation Iraqi Freedom, let us call into account the naysayers who were most critical of the coalition's prosecution of the war; the doom-mongers who warned that the war would yield disaster.

Beginning with Peter Arnett, who reported the war for National Geographic and NBC News, who went on Iraqi television and bad-mouthed both the U.S. military and its commander in chief.

"It is clear," said Arnett, to his Iraqi hosts, "that within the United States there is growing challenge to President Bush about the conduct of the war and also opposition to the war.

"So our reports about civilian casualties here, about the resistance of the Iraqi forces, are going back to the United States. It helps those who oppose the war."

Of course, Arnett was dead wrong.

While there might have been a growing challenge to the president among lefty politicians (like Sen. John Kerry, the Massachusetts Democrat who told an audience that "we need a regime change in the United States") and growing opposition to the war by media lefties like Arnett, the American people increasingly supported both the president and the war once hostilities began.

In fact, during the very week that Arnett graced Iraqi TV an ABC News/Washington Post poll indicated that three of four Americans supported the war with Iraq.

Arnett's opposition to the war, his aid and comfort to Saddam's propaganda apparatus, was hardly surprising. His hostility toward the U.S. military is well known.

But we certainly expected more support for the war from retired military officers critiquing Operation Iraqi Freedom for the assorted news networks. Of those on-air military has-beens, none was more outrageous than Gen. Barry McCaffrey.

McCaffrey, who commanded an infantry division in the Gulf War before joining the Clinton administration as drug czar, went so far as to question Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld's war plan.

"At the end of the day," said McCaffrey, "the question arises: why would you do this operation with inadequate power?

"Because you don't have time to get them there? But we did. Because you don't have the forces? But we did. Because you're trying to save money on a military operation that will be $200 billion before it's done?

"Or is it because you have such a strong ideological view, and you're so confident in your views that you disregard the vehement military advice from, particularly, Army generals who you don't think are very bright."

McCaffrey warned that the United States "could take a couple to 3,000 casualties" in Iraq because Rummy didn't put as many troops on the ground as the retired general thought prudent.

But as the war winds down, the United States has suffered only 100 or so losses – some 1,900 to 2,900 fewer than McCaffrey predicted.

So Rummy was right after all. About the war; about McCaffrey not being very bright.

The New York Times deserves a special citation for being wrong about the war. And none of its writers more so than Nicholas D. Kristof.

"From their perch in Washington," he columnized in October, "President Bush and his advisers seem to have convinced themselves that an invasion will proceed easily because many Iraqis will dance in the streets to welcome



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: armchairgenerals; iraqifreedom; perkins; triumphalism; uniontribune; vicory
Wrong how can the left be wrong?
1 posted on 04/18/2003 8:19:28 AM PDT by Jimbaugh
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To: Jimbaugh
In their universe, they're always right. You should read Arianna Huffington's latest screech to find out just how haughty they are. In their little minds, every one else is simply eevil and beaneath arguing with.
2 posted on 04/18/2003 8:23:10 AM PDT by goldstategop ( In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Jimbaugh
Why have the war critics been so wrong?

Because most were not actually "war critics" who objectively weighed the issue and came to a rational and fair-minded conclusion. They were/are Bush-haters who blindly oppose anything the administration supports.

3 posted on 04/18/2003 8:24:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Jimbaugh
I think a lot of this stuff was just political positioning, taken without regard to actual fact. It would normally not be as noticable as it is in this case because such facts usually take a little more than three weeks to pop up, after which the positions may be modified to be less blatantly mistaken. It's been a very tough war for the prognosticators.
4 posted on 04/18/2003 8:25:34 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Jimbaugh
Wrong, how can the left be wrong?

Because reality doesn't enter into any equations they calculate.

Politics and fantasy are the order of the day every day.

They are like Egyptians, they live in the land of denial.
5 posted on 04/18/2003 8:39:12 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Idiots create their own irony.)
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To: Jimbaugh
Because they are liberals.
They make all kinds of claims: Republicans are racist, want to starve kids and old people, take money from the poor and "give" it to the rich, the war plan is failing, etc.
Then they get the Three Media Stooges (Tom, Peter, and Dan) and the Clinton News Network plus NPR, etc. to spout their story as fact.
They finally got caught at a small part of it.
6 posted on 04/18/2003 8:39:19 AM PDT by Feckless
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Because most were not actually "war critics" … They were/are Bush-haters who blindly oppose anything the administration supports.

This is the truth. While there are some genuine pacifists among the protesters, I believe that the vast amount of the very angry ones would have supported an invasion of Iraq if Bush had opposed it.

7 posted on 04/18/2003 8:39:46 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Friend of thunder; Jimbaugh

8 posted on 04/18/2003 8:42:06 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Friend of thunder
Read this, it will make you puke:

Cheering The Enemy (Suspicions confirmed:Liberals cheering for Iraqis-my title)
 

9 posted on 04/18/2003 8:48:52 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The democRATS are near the tipping point.)
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To: Jimbaugh
Because their insane hatred of Bush and anything conservative has blinded them to reason
10 posted on 04/18/2003 8:51:12 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Credo Quia Absurdum)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
In light of the "Cheering for the Enemy" article, it's easy to see why they were so wrong about how the war would go. They fell victim to wishful thinking.
11 posted on 04/18/2003 8:53:23 AM PDT by Media Insurgent
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Read this, it will make you puke:

Amazing.

As I said on another thread: While there are some genuine pacifists among the protesters, I believe that the vast amount of the very angry ones would have supported an invasion of Iraq if Bush had opposed it.

12 posted on 04/18/2003 8:56:55 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Friend of thunder
oops, that was this thread.
13 posted on 04/18/2003 8:58:53 AM PDT by Friend of thunder (No sane person wants war, but oppressors want oppression.)
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To: Jimbaugh
I think it fits right in with the liberal/leftie/socialists being wrong repeatedly about everything -- Old Europe's economies are tanking, Castro and Kim Il Jong maintain their regimes only through terror. The Soviet Union fell, though the lefties said it wouldn't. In America, the lefties hijacked the civil rights movement, sucked blacks into a reshaped apartheid (government dependence) and trashed their vibrant culture; the lefties hijacked the consrvation movement and turned it into a social engineering movement that tries to undermine our government. The socialists are repeatedly failures in their predictions.

But they FEEL SO RIGHTEOUS that they cannot admit they have been wrong about anything.

They just put their little brains to work thinking up something new.

It's one of the reasons they do NOT like history -- history records all their failures. It's why they don't want Americans to study history, so we won't keep track of their continual failures.

Americans are really savvy, though. We can be fooled, but not forever.
14 posted on 04/18/2003 9:31:30 AM PDT by WaterDragon (Only America has the moral authority and the resolve to lead the world in tClhe 21st Century.)
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To: Jimbaugh
Just over 19 months since 9/11, and we've taken out two Islamofascist governments -- one religious and one secular. Four more years of W and we might have the cesspool cleaned up.
15 posted on 04/18/2003 9:52:38 AM PDT by omega4412
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To: Friend of thunder
As I said on another thread: While there are some genuine pacifists among the protesters, I believe that the vast amount of the very angry ones would have supported an invasion of Iraq if Bush had opposed it.

Or If Clinton/Gore had been president. I don't recall them marching when Clinton bombed Iraq in 98, or over Bosnia.

Most of the emphasis that our local leftist have focused on is scare tactics. They would parade a coffin symbolizing the mass casualties a American sons they kept threatening would result from this war.

I watched C-Spans coverage of one of ANSWAR's rallies and John Conyer's statement that the next step was reinstating the draft. This is an attempt to stir up public resentment towards the military and dilute the strength of our professional military.

16 posted on 04/18/2003 12:13:33 PM PDT by gracie1 (visualize whirled peas)
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