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3 resign from U.S. art panel to protest Iraq museum looting [Clinton appointees]
Newark Star Ledger (AP) ^ | 4/18/03 | AP

Posted on 04/18/2003 8:16:09 AM PDT by Incorrigible

3 resign from U.S. art panel to protest Iraq museum looting

Friday, April 18, 2003

Associated Press

WASHINGTON -- Three members of the White House Cultural Property Advisory Committee have resigned to protest U.S. military unresponsiveness as Baghdad's National Museum of Antiquities was looted, even though reports suggest the thefts may have been carried out by professional thieves.

FBI Director Robert Mueller, meanwhile, said his agency was in on the hunt for looted Iraqi treasures.

Martin E. Sullivan, Richard S. Lanier and Gary Vikan, each appointed by former President Clinton, said they were disappointed by the military's failure to protect Iraq's historical artifacts.

"The tragedy was not prevented, due to our nation's inaction," Sullivan, the committee's chairman, wrote in his letter of resignation.

Noting that American scholars had told the State Department about the location of Iraqi museums and historic sites in Iraq, he said the president "is burdened by a compelling moral obligation to plan for and try to prevent indiscriminate looting and destruction."

But art experts and historians suggested yesterday that thieves, likely organized outside Iraq, pillaged the nation's priceless ancient history collections by using the cover of widespread looting -- and vault keys.

The bandits were so efficient at emptying Iraqi libraries and museums that reports have already surfaced of artifacts appearing on the black market, some experts said. Certain thieves apparently knew exactly what they wanted from the irreplaceable Babylonian, Sumerian and Assyrian collections, and exactly where to find them.

"It looks as if part of the theft was a very, very deliberate, planned action," said McGuire Gibson, president of the American Association for Research in Baghdad. "It really looks like a very professional job."

Gibson was among 30 art experts and cultural historians assembled by the U.N. Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization in Paris to assess the damage to Iraq's heritage in the aftermath of the U.S.-led invasion.

But it remained unclear exactly what was gone and what survived the looting and thievery. With many museum records now in ashes and access to Iraq still cut off, it could take weeks or months to answer those questions.

Establishing a database was a key to finding out what had survived, and tracking down what was stolen, the experts said.

Neil MacGregor, director of the British Museum, said some of the greatest treasures -- including gold jewelry of the Assyrian queens -- were placed in the vaults of the national bank after the 1991 Gulf War. There was no information on whether those items remained inside.

The pillaging has ravaged the irreplaceable Babylonian, Sumerian and Assyrian collections that chronicled ancient civilization in Mesopotamia -- the home of modern-day Iraq. Although much of the looting was haphazard, experts said some of it was highly organized.

"They were able to obtain keys from somewhere for the vaults and were able to take out the very important, the very best material," Gibson said. "I have a suspicion it was organized outside the country. In fact, I'm pretty sure it was."

Many at a UNESCO meeting feared the stolen artifacts have been absorbed into highly organized trafficking rings that ferry the goods through a series of middlemen to collectors in Europe, the United States and Japan.

The FBI was cooperating with the international law enforcement organization Interpol in issuing alerts to all member nations to try to track any sales of the artifacts "on both the open and black markets," Muller said.

Ahead of the war, Iraq's antiquities' authorities gathered artifacts from around the country and moved them to Baghdad's National Museum, assuming the museum would not be bombed, Gibson said.

"They did not count on the museum being looted," he said.

Much anger has been directed at U.S. troops, who stood by and watched as Iraq's treasures were carted off.

Koichiro Matsuura, director- general of Paris-based UNESCO, called yesterday for a U.N. resolution imposing a temporary embargo on trade in Iraqi antiquities. Such a resolution would also call for the return of such items to Iraq, he said.

"To preserve the Iraqi cultural heritage is, in a word, to enable Iraq to successfully make its transition to a new, free and prosperous society," the UNESCO chief said.

White House spokeswoman Claire Buchan said the United States "in liberating Iraq worked very hard to protect infrastructure in Iraq and to preserve the valued resources of Iraq for the people of Iraq."

"It is unfortunate that there was looting and damage done," she said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antiquities; artifacts; fbi; godsgravesglyphs; iraq; lanier; looting; museum; sullivan; treasures; vikan
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To: BOBTHENAILER
Just so there is no confusion: I only voted for GHWB once. The first time he ran.

Because I learned from my mistake. And, no, I didn't vote for the perv in 1992. I believe I was in the South Pacific the day they had the election and I chose not bother with an absentee ballot.

What's your voting history?
41 posted on 04/18/2003 9:16:36 AM PDT by A Vast RightWing Conspirator
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To: A Vast RightWing Conspirator; Grampa Dave
But we are all allowed a few mistakes for as long as we learn from them. I learned from my mistake. Have you learned anything from yours?)

As history will prove, my vote for George Bush will be a part of the greatest period in this country's history. Your lack of that vote will go down as laughable as your hysterics over a bogus looting article you whined and pissed and moaned over.

42 posted on 04/18/2003 9:18:56 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (Just like Black September. One by one, we're gonna get 'em.)
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To: Incorrigible
A better question: Why do the taxpayers have to foot the bill for some screwball bureacracy called the "White House Cultural Property Advisory Committee?" Can't we all just get along...without it!?
43 posted on 04/18/2003 9:21:43 AM PDT by quark
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To: Incorrigible
"Martin E. Sullivan, Richard S. Lanier and Gary Vikan, each appointed by former President Clinton, said they were disappointed by the military's failure to protect Iraq's historical artifacts"

So a few more Clinton appointees are gone. What is the down side?

44 posted on 04/18/2003 9:30:36 AM PDT by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: Incorrigible
Why aren't all the Clinton butt boys resigning in protest? Please??!!!
45 posted on 04/18/2003 9:32:45 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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To: Incorrigible
As leftist PR, this is only a small blip on the radar screen. It's all to the good that there are three fewer clintonoids in the gubmint.
46 posted on 04/18/2003 9:34:02 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Chi-townChief
I wish more holdover Clintonoid scum would resign.
47 posted on 04/18/2003 9:50:50 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Incorrigible
Wonder why these bozos didn't offer to go to Iraq to act as human shields against looters?
48 posted on 04/18/2003 10:00:35 AM PDT by Free State Four
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To: FairOpinion
Thank you for that collection of links. I'm a little dismayed at all the Freepers jumping on the media's propagandists' bandwagon.
49 posted on 04/18/2003 10:24:18 AM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: Theresa
" http://www.lewrockwell.com/spectator/spec58.html"

Lew Rockwell? Oh please.

50 posted on 04/18/2003 10:25:48 AM PDT by MizSterious ("The truth takes only seconds to tell."--Jack Straw)
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To: AppyPappy
Their terms had expired.

Ask yourself why they made such a big deal of firing.

Then remember who appointed them.
51 posted on 04/18/2003 10:26:53 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: MizSterious
I'm a little dismayed at all the Freepers jumping on the media's propagandists' bandwagon

Yep. The story began to unravel yesterday. The museum director admitted the most valuable pieces had been moved out of the museum before the fighting reached Baghdad, something the New York Times' sources either didn't know or didn't bother to disclose. The commander on the scene said there was a trench on the museum grounds and Iraqis were sniping from the building as well some barracks across the street. The most startling revelation is that this was an inside heist, planned by some pros, and not random "looting." UNESCO's committee reported calls were made to European dealers almost immediately after the heist offering pieces.

And the relaxation of exports was an Iraqi idea, not American. This museum was closed from 1991 to 2000, during which time markets have been awash in Iraqi antiquities, indicating some high officials have been profiting.

Interesting, isn't it, that the same people from right and left who opposed the war have pushed this non-story to the top, over the increasingly horrific details of Saddam's regime???

52 posted on 04/18/2003 10:37:55 AM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Incorrigible
I'll just bet that much of the stuff found its way to either Iran or Syria. Hummmm.....would these Clinton appointees sanction a raid to get the stuff back?

And, of course, while we're there, we could take care of some other business too.

53 posted on 04/18/2003 10:51:28 AM PDT by HardStarboard
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To: Incorrigible
Isn't it just possible that this looting happened well in advance of our troops being in Baghdad? It would've had been pretty difficult to make off with this loot while being fired on -- don't you think?

I am glad the three resigned -- especially since the facts state that the job was professional, that most of the museum items were reproductions, and that some of the most valuable pieces are still stored in vaults.

I'm certainly not happy IF this type of looting took place. I am definitely NOT happy that these self-righteous aXXhXXXs are trying to blame our troops in either instance -- troops who happened to be under fire at the time. The idiots -- how hypocritical can you get?

Looks like it's coming back to bite them in the a##. When the stuff shows up on the international market -- and it's tracked back, I hope there'll be enough crow to go around.
55 posted on 04/18/2003 12:12:37 PM PDT by alethia
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To: MizSterious
"I'm a little dismayed at all the Freepers jumping on the media's propagandists' bandwagon."

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Those are no Freepers, those are DU plants, masquarading as Freepers, and occasionally their masque slips.

My guess is that about 5% or so of the posters here fall in that category. Fortunately, if they start really allow their true natures come to light, we have good Admin Moderators who bid them bye-bye.

I guess we have to suffer the ones who know just how far they can go to irritate us, without becoming outragous enough to get themselves banned.

I see many such posts on AOL boards, which are open to everyone, and those pretending to be "reasonable moderates", the ones who start things out: "I support our troops, BUT"..., "I am a patriot, BUT" usually turn out to have a far left anti-American agenda, which is becoming less and less popular, so they have to try to put on various masques and strike from behind those.
56 posted on 04/18/2003 1:29:59 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: SW6906
HEY! Knock that off!! We can't have facts getting in the way of the Bush-bashing! I oughta hit the abuse button on the likes of you! ;o)

Do you really think I am a "Bush basher"????

Where in any post (EVER ON FR) have I even come close to that?

57 posted on 04/18/2003 1:41:42 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Incorrigible
Good riddance.
58 posted on 04/18/2003 1:46:16 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Joseph_CutlerUSA
Any idiot can see that you can't plan for or see every possible outcome in a war.

If you do a search on me you will see that I did not lay blame anywhere. I was just sorry to see those artifacts gone; NO MATTER WHO TOOK THEM.

59 posted on 04/18/2003 1:47:50 PM PDT by RadioAstronomer
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To: Incorrigible
Quitters! If they really cared they would stay onboard and help get the stuff back. A pretty transparent agenda they have.
60 posted on 04/18/2003 1:58:54 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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