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WHO suspects hundreds more Beijing SARS deaths
Taiwan News.com/Reuters ^ | 2003-04-18

Posted on 04/17/2003 7:09:04 PM PDT by CathyRyan

The World Health organization said the killer SARS epidemic is much worse in China than officials have acknowledged, after finding unreported cases at secretive military hospitals.

The WHO said the capital, Beijing, may have five times the official number of 40 deaths after visiting hospitals run by the military "which seems to have its own system of reporting," said Wolfgang Preiser of the WHO team. .

WHO Executive Director for Communicable Diseases David Heymann said the team estimated there were at least 50 SARS patients in one military hospital alone. .

"They (the WHO experts) also estimated there are between 100-200 probable cases in Beijing, more than has been reported, and they feel that there might even be up to 1,000 people who are under observation right now," Heymann told a briefing in Geneva, adding that many of those may not be SARS cases. .

The illness has already spread to a number of provinces, cities and regions in the world's most populous nation and Heymann feared the disease could spread further in coming weeks as millions of Chinese take a week-long holiday in early May. .

SARS has killed at least 65 people and infected 1,445 in mainland China -- nearly half of the world's cases -- since it first surfaced in southern Guangdong province in November. .

The virus that causes Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome has been carried by air travellers to 23 countries, infecting more than 3,400 people and killing about 160 worldwide. .

NEW HONG KONG OUTBREAK .

Nine residents of a Hong Kong housing estate have come down with SARS, sparking fears of a repeat of an outbreak that ravaged another high-rise apartment complex recently in the territory of seven million people. .

Singapore and Hong Kong, both hit hard by the virus, have begun checking airline passengers for fevers. .

Australian authorities yesterday reported three probable SARS cases -- three children visiting from Canada -- in what could be the country's first cases. But they said the children had recovered and the disease has not spread to family members. .

The WHO officially confirmed that a member of the coronavirus family, never before seen in humans, causes the flu-like SARS, which is contagious, sometimes fatal and has no known cure. .

The finding allows scientist to focus on diagnostic tests, treatment and new vaccines -- if needed. .

Experts were optimistic the disease could be controlled using existing measures, but warned the coronavirus family tended to mutate relatively quickly. .

In a further sign of urgency, U.S. scientists have asked more than a dozen American and European healthcare companies to help develop a SARS vaccine, a process that could take years. .

"You grow the virus, kill it, and there you go. You have a vaccine. But it would still take years to actually have the vaccine in the bottle and ready to distribute," said Dr Anthony Fauci, head of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, in an interview. .

U.S. Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson accused China of keeping information about SARS under wraps, thus letting the virus spread and claim more lives. .

"We've been very upset with the transparency of the Chinese government... We think lives could have been saved. We could have controlled it," he told Reuters in Rome. .

The criticism is bound to sting the Chinese leadership, which has taken steps to improve transparency after international condemnation for keeping quiet when SARS appeared. .

China said yesterday its economy grew 9.9 percent year-on-year in the first quarter -- the fastest pace in six years -- but SARS will cast a pall over future growth. .

Economists estimate that the epidemic has already caused at least US$30 billion in losses worldwide and will pose more of a threat to Asia's economic growth than the war on Iraq, through lower tourist earnings and reduced consumer spending.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: beijing; china; coverup; reporting; sars
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To: CathyRyan; All
Sorry, I don't have the time. I need to get ready for work. Could someone else please start a thread?
41 posted on 04/18/2003 5:24:05 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides; CathyRyan; riri; blam; All
Check this out, from aristeides' link:

At one of the most reputable of the city's hospitals, 31 patients suffering the potentially lethal disease were driven around in ambulances for the duration of the WHO visit, said TIME.

And at a military hospital, 40 SARS patients were said to have been moved to a hotel for the duration of the WHO tour, in an apparent attempt to deceive inspectors about the true extent of the outbreak.

42 posted on 04/18/2003 5:30:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne (God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
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To: CathyRyan
Cathy, I'm waiting to hear from per loin this morning, to see the daily chart posted.
43 posted on 04/18/2003 5:31:22 AM PDT by Judith Anne (God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
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To: green team 1999
You may be right about the Commuist Chinese fiddling with biological weaponry.
44 posted on 04/18/2003 5:40:14 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: Judith Anne; CathyRyan
Is this going to be the main thread for today?
45 posted on 04/18/2003 7:28:42 AM PDT by riri
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To: Judith Anne
Hong Kong: Hospitalized SARS (Chicom-Flu) Cases
Chart by per loin perloin@email.com
Time
Cases
Increase
Disposition
Dead as % of prior time
Day Date
Day Week Total
Day Week
Got well Dead Total Gone In Hospital Hosp Days
Week 2 Week 3 Week Of Gone










Day Total % Day Total % Day Total % Day Total %





Wed 03/12
10
10












10 10 100.0% 10




Thu 03/13
14
24
140.0%










14 24 100.0% 34




Fri 03/14
5
29
20.8%










5 29 100.0% 63




Sat 03/15
8
37
27.6%










8 37 100.0% 100




Sun 03/16
5
42
13.5%










5 42 100.0% 142




Mon 03/17
53
95
126.2%










53 95 100.0% 237




Tue 03/18
28 123 123
29.5%










28 123 100.0% 360




Wed 03/19
27 140 150
22.0% 1400.0%
5 5 3.3% 5 5 3.3% 10 10 6.7% 17 140 93.3% 500
50.0%

50.0%
Thu 03/20
23 149 173
15.3% 620.8%
0 5 2.9% 1 6 3.5% 1 11 6.4% 22 162 93.6% 662
25.0%

54.5%
Fri 03/21
30 174 203
17.3% 600.0%
2 7 3.4% 0 6 3.0% 2 13 6.4% 28 190 93.6% 852
20.7%

46.2%
Sat 03/22
19 185 222
9.4% 500.0%
0 7 3.2% 2 8 3.6% 2 15 6.8% 17 207 93.2% 1,059
21.6%

53.3%
Sun 03/23
25 205 247
11.3% 488.1%
0 7 2.8% 2 10 4.0% 2 17 6.9% 23 230 93.1% 1,289
23.8%

58.8%
Mon 03/24
13 165 260
5.3% 173.7%
5 12 4.6% 0 10 3.8% 5 22 8.5% 8 238 91.5% 1,527
10.5%

45.5%
Tue 03/25
26 163 286
10.0% 132.5%
2 14 4.9% 0 10 3.5% 2 24 8.4% 24 262 91.6% 1,789
8.1%

41.7%
Wed 03/26
30 166 316
10.5% 110.7%
2 16 5.1% 0 10 3.2% 2 26 8.2% 28 290 91.8% 2,079
6.7% 100.0%
38.5%
Thu 03/27
51 194 367
16.1% 112.1%
3 19 5.2% 0 10 2.7% 3 29 7.9% 48 338 92.1% 2,417
5.8% 41.7%
34.5%
Fri 03/28
58 222 425
15.8% 109.4%
6 25 5.9% 1 11 2.6% 7 36 8.5% 51 389 91.5% 2,806
5.4% 37.9%
30.6%
Sat 03/29
45 248 470
10.6% 111.7%
18 43 9.1% 1 12 2.6% 19 55 11.7% 26 415 88.3% 3,221
5.4% 32.4%
21.8%
Sun 03/30
60 283 530
12.8% 114.6%
21 64 12.1% 1 13 2.5% 22 77 14.5% 38 453 85.5% 3,674
5.3% 31.0%
16.9%
Mon 03/31
80 350 610
15.1% 134.6%
15 79 13.0% 2 15 2.5% 17 94 15.4% 63 516 84.6% 4,190
5.8% 15.8%
16.0%
Tue 04/1
75 399 685
12.3% 139.5%
5 84 12.3% 1 16 2.3% 6 100 14.6% 69 585 85.4% 4,775
5.6% 13.0%
16.0%
Wed 04/2
23 392 708
3.4% 124.1%
5 89 12.6% 0 16 2.3% 5 105 14.8% 18 603 85.2% 5,378
5.1% 10.7% 160.0% 15.2%
Thu 04/3
26 367 734
3.7% 100.0%
9 98 13.4% 1 17 2.3% 10 115 15.7% 16 619 84.3% 5,997
4.6% 9.8% 70.8% 14.8%
Fri 04/4
27 336 761
3.7% 79.1%
1 99 13.0% 0 17 2.2% 1 116 15.2% 26 645 84.8% 6,642
4.0% 8.4% 58.6% 14.7%
Sat 04/5
39 330 800
5.1% 70.2%
8 107 13.4% 3 20 2.5% 11 127 15.9% 28 673 84.1% 7,315
4.3% 9.0% 54.1% 15.7%
Sun 04/6
42 312 842
5.3% 58.9%
9 116 13.8% 2 22 2.6% 11 138 16.4% 31 704 83.6% 8,019
4.2% 8.9% 52.4% 15.9%
Mon 04/7
41 273 883
4.9% 44.8%
11 127 14.4% 1 23 2.6% 12 150 17.0% 29 733 83.0% 8,752
3.8% 8.8% 24.2% 15.3%
Tue 04/8
45 243 928
5.1% 35.5%
11 138 14.9% 2 25 2.7% 13 163 17.6% 32 765 82.4% 9,517
3.6% 8.7% 20.3% 15.3%
Wed 04/9
42 262 970
4.5% 37.0%
4 142 14.6% 2 27 2.8% 6 169 17.4% 36 801 82.6% 10,318
3.8% 8.5% 18.0% 16.0%
Thu 04/10
28 264 998
2.9% 36.0%
12 154 15.4% 3 30 3.0% 15 184 18.4% 13 814 81.6% 11,132
4.1% 8.2% 17.3% 16.3%
Fri 04/11
61 298 1,059
6.1% 39.2%
15 169 16.0% 2 32 3.0% 17 201 19.0% 44 858 81.0% 11,990
4.2% 7.5% 15.8% 15.9%
Sat 04/12
49 308 1,108
4.6% 38.5%
46 215 19.4% 3 35 3.2% 49 250 22.6% 0 858 77.4% 12,848
4.4% 7.4% 15.8% 14.0%
Sun 04/13
42 308 1,150
3.8% 36.6%
8 223 19.4% 5 40 3.5% 13 263 22.9% 29 887 77.1% 13,735
4.8% 7.5% 16.2% 15.2%
Mon 04/14
40 307 1,190
3.5% 34.8%
6 229 19.2% 7 47 3.9% 13 276 23.2% 27 914 76.8% 14,649
5.3% 7.7% 18.1% 17.0%
Tue 04/15
42 304 1,232
3.5% 32.8%
14 243 19.7% 9 56 4.5% 23 299 24.3% 19 933 75.7% 15,582
6.0% 8.2% 19.6% 18.7%
Wed 04/16
36 298 1,268
2.9% 30.7%
14 257 20.3% 5 61 4.8% 19 318 25.1% 17 950 74.9% 16,532
6.3% 8.6% 19.3% 19.2%
Thu 04/17
29 299 1,297
2.3% 30.0%
15 272 21.0% 4 65 5.0% 19 337 26.0% 10 960 74.0% 17,492
6.5% 8.9% 17.7% 19.3%
Fri 04/18
30 268 1,327
2.3% 25.3%
50 322 24.3% 4 69 5.2% 54 391 29.5% -24 936 70.5% 18,428
6.5% 9.1% 16.2% 17.6%




























Averages

35 260

16.5% 180.7%
10
12.0% 2
3.2% 13
15.2% 25
87.6%

9.1% 17.4% 36.1% 25.8%










Day Total % Day Total % Day Total % Day Total %





Day Date
Day Week Total
Day Week
Got well Dead Total Gone In Hospital Hosp Days
Week 2 Week 3 Week Of Gone
Time
Cases
Increase
Disposition
Dead as % of prior time

46 posted on 04/18/2003 7:28:43 AM PDT by per loin
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To: per loin
OK, apparently there has been a huge scientific breakthrough. (sarcasm)

50 people apparently got better yesterday.

Either they are FOS or they are letting anyone who coughs for less than 30 minutes at a stretch out of the hospital to free up beds.

I know, I know cynical to the end.

47 posted on 04/18/2003 7:33:38 AM PDT by riri
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To: per loin
Thanks per loin. I hope that somebody at the CDC who is not completely brain dead is reading what you post daily.
48 posted on 04/18/2003 7:38:07 AM PDT by Judith Anne (God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
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To: riri
From what we've heard about the weakened condition of those who have gone through the disease, releasing them at the weekend might be the best time. Give the folks at home a couple of days to help them, before returning to work on Monday.

Whatever the case, this is the first drop in the number hospitalized. perhaps Hong Kong is bringing it under control.

49 posted on 04/18/2003 7:40:38 AM PDT by per loin
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To: mrustow; CathyRyan
The article was a good one (I'm glad Cathy posted it), but I still suspect the reporter got "cases" and "deaths" mixed up. One of the advantages of FR is the chance to discuss possible mistakes in articles.

Here's why I suspect the author got mixed up:

The Chinese government has been insisting that the total number of CASES is about 40. There have been a multitude of articles stating that the total number of CASES could be five times that high, with the WHO cited as the source for that number. Hence my suspicion that the author of this article got mixed up and referred to "deaths" instead of "cases".

Remember, as of yesterday, Hong Kong was reporting 65 deaths. The reported total for the whole world was around 160 (I did not look up the exact number, but 160 is close). I would be extremely surprised if the WHO is saying Beijing has more deaths from SARS at this time than Hong Kong and the rest of the world combined.

However, just because I doubt the WHO would say publicly that they think Beijing alone has more SARS deaths than the reported world wide totals does not mean it might not be TRUE. The rest of the world is going to extraordinary lengths to keep this under control. Beijing is carting patients around in taxis in order to keep them from being found (as reported in another article posted by Cathy this morning).

Under these conditions, it would not take long for SARS to become widespread in Beijing (and all of China). 200 deaths would be insignificant compared to what they would be looking at in less than two months.
50 posted on 04/18/2003 7:46:27 AM PDT by EternalHope (France is our enemy.)
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To: per loin; riri; CathyRyan
per loin, as a favor, would you repost the chart on this thread:


China hid SARS patients - report

I'm sorry I can't do a link...html challenged and need more coffee...

I'd like to recommend that the China hid SARS patients thread be the main thread, but this one is excellent too...
51 posted on 04/18/2003 7:47:22 AM PDT by Judith Anne (God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
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To: per loin
     Hong Kong: Hospitalized SARS (Chicom-Flu) Cases

Do these stats include Guangdong province -

- or are these stats just for Hong Kong alone?

52 posted on 04/18/2003 7:51:49 AM PDT by _Jim (s)
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To: Judith Anne
I would like to know how many are using Chinese (eastern) medicial care and skipping western medical care all together. Would they even show up to be counted? I would imagine that there are Chinese doctors that do not practice western medicine. Does anyone know?
53 posted on 04/18/2003 7:51:50 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: per loin
      Whatever the case, this is the first drop in the number hospitalized. perhaps Hong Kong is bringing it under control.

Funny ... they are reporing the SAME THING happening in Guangdong province ...

More Chinese 'funny numbers' being reported?

54 posted on 04/18/2003 7:54:18 AM PDT by _Jim (s)
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To: JunkYardFrog
Please pardon a dumb question from a newbie here: Is there a quote function on this board?

HTML Bootcamp

55 posted on 04/18/2003 7:55:00 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: riri
Either they are FOS or they are letting anyone who coughs for less than 30 minutes at a stretch out of the hospital to free up beds.

Why can't it be both?

56 posted on 04/18/2003 7:56:20 AM PDT by EternalHope (Boycott everything French forever.)
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To: oldironsides
You may be right about the Commuist Chinese fiddling with biological weaponry.

AS IF mother nature DOESN'T come up with a billion permutations of these viri on her own!

57 posted on 04/18/2003 7:56:20 AM PDT by _Jim (s)
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To: _Jim
As I understand it, Guangdong province's border is extremely near Hong Kong. Probably a lot of unknowns as to who got it where, given people from Guangdong working in HK.

Somebody quickly correct me if I'm mistaken, please...
58 posted on 04/18/2003 7:56:30 AM PDT by Judith Anne (God bless our soldiers with swift victory...)
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To: Judith Anne
How about if someone would post on this thread that the new thread is the one that Judith Anne suggested so it will direct people to the new thread. Like Mother Abigail use to do. I do not know how to do it.
59 posted on 04/18/2003 7:58:35 AM PDT by CathyRyan
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To: Judith Anne
    Probably a lot of unknowns as to who got it where ...

I GUESS you didn't see the stories (plural) about the DOCTOR who was treating patients in Guangdong AND made a now-noted trip to Hong Kong where obstensibly he created the string of first cases seen there?

60 posted on 04/18/2003 7:58:46 AM PDT by _Jim (s)
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