Pope's ruling bars Blair from taking Communion with family

The London Times ^ | April 17, 2003 | Richard Owen in Rome and Tom Baldwin

[DeathfromBelow]

Big problem is this is a "man-made" law of the church, and not of God nor Jesus.

W.W.J.D

This isn't a case of "Believers" and non-believers, this is a case of follow my rule or else.

[ffusco]

Lemme get this straight.....Someone chooses to accept Christ and you deny them?

[Blood of Tyrants]

Hmmm, I can't seem to find the part in the Bible where Jesus instructs 'only those “in full communion with Rome” can take part in the Eucharist.'

[ffusco]

Mille grazie!

[SoothingDave]

I don't see where Jesus said anything about being, "in full communion with Rome."

To deny anyone Communion, if they choose to accept it, is FUNDAMENTALLY UN-CHRISTIAN.

1 Corinthians 11:
27 Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
28 But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.

We simply follow Paul's advice. It is not "fundamentally un-Christian" to prevent those who do not "discern the Lord's Body" from "eating and drinking" themselves to damnation.

In fact it's quite charitable to prevent your brethren from falling into a pit.

SD

[RAT Patrol]

Ping

[Samurai_Jack]

Im pretty sure I can file this under removing the beam from your own eye before trying to spot a mote in mine.

[ffusco]

Excellent point. The Pope is toothless, choosing a straw man to attack in the name of piety. Disgraceful.

[SoothingDave]

Lemme get this straight.....Someone chooses to accept Christ and you deny them?

See my post 25.

Do you affirm that the Bread and Wine offered in the Catholic Communion are the actual, physical Real Presence of the Body and Blood of Jesus? Do you believe the Bread and Wine change substance and actually become the Body and Blood?

Or is it symbolic?

If you do not affirm the former, then you are not of one faith with us, and we do you a great favor by preventing you from communing.

SD

[latina4dubya]

i come from a Catholic family; however, 20 years ago i became a Protestant... there have been times when i've been present at Catholic communions, (weddings, baptisms, confirmations, etc.,) where the priest invites only the Catholics to participate in the communion ceremony... but i've chosen to take communion anyway... i think the rule is ridiculous... heck, i know i have a relationship with Christ--and i know of several Catholics in my family who do not, yet they are invited to take communion...

[stop_fascism]

Why? Would you prefer the Eps to do likewise?

[SoothingDave]

Wait a minute: Blair is suddenly forbidden to receive Communion, yet known pedophilic priests and CC hierarchal enablers are?

Don't buy the Times' spin. It is attrocious.

Blair is not "suddenly" forbidden. This is just a re-affirmation of existing law, which has slipped in practice in some renegade jurisdictions.

And pedophiles are not in a state to receive communion either. But if you knew anything instead of wanting to cast stones, you would know that already.

Leave what you don't understand alone, OK?

SD

[RAT Patrol]

I don't know, F16, lots of denominations put restrictions on who can receive communion. It's part of the Catholic theology that anyone can take or leave, but if they want to be Catholic they should adhere to Catholicism and its rules.

But I think he should ban the guilty priests from more than just communion.

[DeathfromBelow]

but it is damned hypocritical for those who have accepted Christ but don't "Conform to Rome".

[johnb838]

Side note, at an Episcopalian alter, we accept all baptized Christians.

Very true, but when I was a kid if you weren't confirmed Episcopalian, you got the dreaded blessing.

[stop_fascism]

I must agree. I don't see what is gained. Perhaps it has something to do with being "unconfessed".

[ffusco]

Anyone can accept Christ as their Savior and Lord.
The POPE has no right to deny one of God's children from receiving communion.

Blair didn't choose to receive the sacrement because he wanted a snack- he believes in Jesus, why does that make him unworthy?

[SoothingDave]

but i've chosen to take communion anyway

Is being ingracious to your hosts a matter of Protestant piety?

If someone politely requests you respect his ceremonies, why would you proudly spit on his request?

Obviously, no one is policing anything and you were not physically prevented from making a mockery of what we hold sacred. But to imagine someone to be so ignorant as you are is laughable.

SD

[ambrose]

I wish the Pope felt as strongly about pedophile priests as he does about Protestant Christians.

[polemikos]

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