Iraqi defeat jolts Russian military

The Christian Science Monitor ^ | April 16, 2003 | Fred Weir

[Reeses]

"As a result of the Iraq war and accusations of illegal Russian arms deliveries, applications for Russian weapons have soared,"

Brand new GPS jammers, on sale now, 75% off!

[antaresequity]

Its their culture.

Even if Russia had all the wiz bang gadgetry we did, they would still lose.

Freedom fighters trump Socialist conscripts every time.

[NewsGal]

Is that a real picture of Daschle using the wrong hand? No joke?

[Dubya]

Too bad for Putin

He is the big time loser now.

They should have got along with us. We would have helped develope oil and Etc. It would have helped us all.

[The Other Harry]

You can stop posting that photo now.

[COURAGE]

"Their forces committed suicide by the hundreds.... The battle is very fierce and God made us victorious. The fighting continues."

[Empireoftheatom48]

Well, Putan was KGB. I think he must have known better.

[Beck_isright]

Do some historical research. Back in the 50's the ChiComs were seriously scouting Siberia and it's mineral riches.....

[John H K]

Call me naive, but it's hard for me to imagine the Chinese having territorial designs on Russia.

The Chinese believe most of all of Siberia should belong to them and they were screwed out of it in an unfair treaty about 100 years ago.

The Chinese belief they should own Siberia is on a par with their belief they should own Taiwan. You just don't hear about it as much.

The Chinese and Soviet Union duked it out in vicious, fairly large scale ground combat over some border areas in the 1960s. There were no reporters there to film it, and both countries suppressed the knowledge that it happened.

[etcetera]

"I wish I knew how to post this picture. It is worth a thousand words."

I wish they wouldn't print pictures like this. You just know that the Muslim world sees this as humiliating to Muslims and further evidence of American arrogance. It doesn't help in the struggle to win hearts and minds.

[smith288]

Baghdad Bob is a passing fad...

[nicollo]

Did you see this?

Twelve years after the USSR's collapse, the most unreformed branch of Russian society remains its armed forces. Though its numbers have been halved to about 1.2 million personnel, and its annual budget has dropped to a mere $10 billion,

Ten bil?

Even if that's a ten, hundred-fold underestimation, either in real or comparative dollars, there's no hope for them, or the rest of the world.

I'm bemused by the constant press salivation at Iraq's twelve billion a year oil revenue... That's about 150 on the Forbes list -- that is, one hundred forty-nine U.S. companies have more revenue than Iraq's oil take -- the better part of the country's entire economy.

A US Empire? No. Dominant? Indeed. There's no comparison.

[Diddley]

Russia has lost what...8000 troops now trying to subdue Grozny, a city one TENTH the size of Baghdad? And they did so without fighting under the constraints of world opinion or constant journalistic access.

Very cogent points.

[Paleo Conservative]

"As a result of the Iraq war and accusations of illegal Russian arms deliveries, applications for Russian weapons have soared,"

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They might not be able to fool JDAM's, but if they were cheap enough they could be used to fool the antitheft devices in many new cars.

[Paleo Conservative]

"As a result of the Iraq war and accusations of illegal Russian arms deliveries, applications for Russian weapons have soared,"

Brand new GPS jammers, on sale now, 75% off!

They might not be able to fool JDAM's, but if they were cheap enough they could be used to fool the antitheft devices in many new cars.

[RusIvan]

They might not be able to fool JDAM's,+++

I don't get how JDAM may hit GPS jammer if latter moves around? How armorers got its GPS coordinates in real time?

Second moment. When one uses expensive munition and air sorty to take out piece of equipment with cost $200 it mean something.
At least GPS jammers fulfilled the task to compel excessive spending of foe. They inflicts damage to military budget.

[Paleo Conservative]

I don't get how JDAM may hit GPS jammer if latter moves around? How armorers got its GPS coordinates in real time?

I didn't hear about large numbers of JDAM's missing their targets. Surely the GPS jammer that was hit was not the only GPS jammer that was used. Also, I haven't heard reports of more than one GPS jammer being hit. Have you? The JDAM has both inertial and GPS guidence capabilities. It also knows that a valid GPS signal should be coming from a satellite orbiting in a polar orbit, not a fixed ground station or even a moving truck or UAV.

[governsleastgovernsbest]

Thanks to all for the history lesson on the rocky history of Sino-Soviet relations.

[COURAGE]

Still no reliable evidence on the fate of Muhammed Saeed al-Sahaf (M.S.S.)... Iranian newspaper Mardom Salari reports rumors of MSS suicide, but no substantiation.