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What If Women Ran the World?
BusinessWeek ^ | Tue Apr 15, 2003 | Thane Peterson

Posted on 04/15/2003 12:23:32 PM PDT by WaveThatFlag

When I look at the news these days, I can't help but wonder: Wouldn't we be a lot better off if women were in charge, given all the violence and atrocities perpetrated by men and male-run governments in places like Bosnia, Rwanda, and Iraq (news - web sites)? Would U.S. troops be in Iraq today if, say, Hillary Clinton (news - web sites) were President, and not George W. Bush?

Sure, woman leaders are sometimes as tough and warlike as any man. Britain's Margaret Thatcher comes to mind. But in my experience, women tend to pursue conciliation and cooperation long after men would have been at each other's throats. And, as the heroism of American women soldiers and pilots in Iraq has shown, when it's really necessary to fight, women hold their own.

Besides, once war ends, it's often women who step in first to help the orphans and other victims of battle. In Rwanda, for instance, 10% of the population was slaughtered in the 1994 genocide, mainly men. According to Elizabeth Powley in an article in the International Herald Tribune, about 70% of the population immediately after the genocide was female, so women set up numerous nongovernmental organizations to deal with the devastation. Today, some seats in Parliament and local councils in Rwanda are reserved only for women.

EUROPE'S LEAD. I suspect that the rising percentage of women in governments around the world is a very significant trend. It's a controversial notion, but some political scientists believe that when women [and other minorities] reach a "critical mass" of around 30% in an elected body, they often start to act together as a group outside party lines. And, in some governments around the world, the percentage of women has hit that threshold, according to the Inter-Parliamentary Union, a Geneva, Switzerland-based organization of Parliamentary governments that tracks the numbers [www.ipu.org].

Nordic countries lead the trend. Women hold 45.3% of the seats in Parliament in Sweden, 38% in Denmark, 37.5% in Finland, and 36.4% in Norway, according to the IPU. All told, the percentage now tops 30% in the Lower Houses of a dozen nations, including the Netherlands, Germany, Austria, Argentina, and Mozambique.

At the low end are several countries in the Middle East: Iran, 4.1%; Egypt, 2.4%; Jordan, 1.3%; and Kuwait and the United Arab Emirates at 0%. The U.S. ranks 59th, in the middle of the pack, with 13.6% of the seats in Congress and 14 of the Senate's 100 seats held by women. But, according to the Center for American Women & Politics at Rutgers University, women now hold 30% or more of the seats in six state legislatures: Washington, Colorado, Maryland, Oregon, Vermont, and California. Washington is tops, with 36.7%.

NO WIMP. I realize that the notion that the world would be more peaceful if women ran it is a hard one to test. But I checked in with Swanee Hunt, director of the Women & Public Policy Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government. She's no wimp when it comes to war. As President Clinton (news - web sites)'s ambassador to Austria from 1993 to 1997, she pushed for a quicker intervention to stop the atrocities in neighboring Bosnia. Out of that experience, she has formed Women Waging Peace, a global initiative to get women involved in peace initiatives in conflict areas around the world.

Daughter of Texas billionaire H.L. Hunt, she has used her wealth to fund initiatives aimed at helping women and children. A mother of three, she has also found time to compose a classical piece called The Witness Cantata as a memorial to victims of war. Her husband, symphony conductor Charles Ansbacher, is scheduled to conduct the work on Good Friday, Apr. 18, at Boston's Arlington Street Church. Here are edited excerpts of our talk:

Q: What's the idea behind Women Waging Peace, and why should it be a goal to get women involved in the peace process in places like Iraq and Bosnia?

A: When I was the ambassador [to Austria], Bosnia was right next door, and there was a terrible refugee flood into Austria. What I noticed quickly was that the 60 people who were sent up from Croatia and Bosnia for the [peace] negotiations were all men -- even though there were more women PhDs per capita in the former Yugoslavia than in any country in Europe. It made me wonder why the warriors involved wanted to make sure there were no women.

That question stayed in the back of my mind. After I left the State Dept. and came to Harvard, I asked some people at the U.N. why there were no women on the negotiating team in the African conflicts. A U.N. official told me: "That's very clear. The warriors won't have them because they're afraid the women will compromise." I thought: "Bingo!" That is, after all, the whole point of negotiation. I wondered if there was something to that.

Q: Where did you go from there?

A: I brought, ultimately, women from 25 different conflicts to Harvard for a week or two, listening to them exchange their strategies. Some were pacifists, some not -- I certainly am not. There were lawyers, investigative reporters, members of parliament, the whole range.

What we found is that there were some extraordinary strengths among these women that would be very useful in trying to avert or stop violent conflicts. The women were bridging the divide. They tended to not see the person on the other side as the demon. They would often talk about how, "We're all mothers, and as mothers we understand each other." One of the sayings was, "As mothers, we cry the same tears."

Q: How is women's participation going in Afghanistan (news - web sites)'s new government?

A: Before the Taliban, women represented about 50% of the medical doctors and 40% of the government officials. So, [when] a meeting was set up of the warlords to determine who would be in the transitional government, there was lots of pressure from the [Bush] White House and the State Dept. to ensure that the U.N. would insist that there be lots of women. A U.N. official told me that eventually one of the warlords said, "All right. We'll have the same percentage of women as there are in the U.S. Congress."

Q: Which is about 14%. Is that good or bad?

A: Well, we wish he had said Sweden.

Q: Haven't women been marginalized since then?

A: I'm told that many of those women [in the Afghani National Assembly] have suffered. And the war in Iraq has intensified the pressure on [Muslim] women [generally]. This conflict has been painted as the West vs. Islam. The husbands and male leaders say to women, "Show us that you are a good Muslim woman, and don't have any of those Western ideas."

Q: What's the potential for women playing a role in peacemaking in Iraq?

A: It's very important that Iraqi women be perceived as major untapped resources. They can play a key role as planners, leaders, and organizers of the reconstruction. That includes the transitional justice [system] that must be established. My experience with women in postconflict situations is that they very much have their fingers on the pulse of the community.

I've talked to maybe 500 women from conflict situations around the world [about] difference between men and women. Mary Okumu, who has worked on the conflict in the Sudan for years, once told me: "What men and women want in these situations is very different. The men want a whole state. The women want a safe place for their families." Maybe that's because of social roles, maybe it's because we're hardwired differently. But they all say, "We approach it differently."

Now, I'm very aware that many of the great peacemakers in the world are men -- Nelson Mandela in South Africa, for instance. We're not talking about all-men-this and all-women-that. It's just that the Bell curves are in different places.

Q: Do you think that the rising number in parliaments around the world will mean that it will become less likely that countries will go to war in various situations?

A: My educated guess is, yes. [Among] American men and women, there was a very significant gender gap [on going to war in Iraq] -- as much as 15%, depending on the question asked -- before the war. [But] if you convince women that it's about protection- -- such as [asserting a] September 11 connection [with] Saddam Hussein (news - web sites) -- then those numbers start eroding.

Q: Would it make a difference in voting patterns if 30% or 40% of the U.S. Congress were women?

A: I can't give you the numbers. But my experience in interviewing women over the years is that women tend to think of themselves as less competent than they actually are, [while] men tend to think of themselves as more competent than they actually are. Women are helped, therefore, when they have a larger group with which to identify. It connects to how good women are at relationship-building, collaboration.

Q: If I said what you're saying, many women would call me sexist.

A: Exactly. It's classic. Most of these stereotypes about men and women are grounded in reality. It's just that they are abused, used in ways that hurt men or hurt women. That's why we hate stereotypes.

Q: The other striking thing we see in the news these days is some very brave women soldiers in combat.

A: I've done some studying of women in combat -- not of Americans but of guerrilla fighters. For instance, I had [South Africa's] Thandi Modisi in my home for dinner, and I said, "Thandi, tell me, what did you do before you were in Parliament?" She said, "I was a [guerrilla] fighter."

I [also] spent a day interviewing an Eritrean woman who lead her platoon into battle several times. A very, very gutsy woman. She said she was particularly effective because the men would have been mortified to have not followed her into battle, even when they were petrified. She said the Ethiopians had a saying: "Oh, please God, don't let me be captured by an Eritrean woman." So there are other sides to this.

I don't think that looking for peaceful solutions is the job of cowards. There's tremendous damage anytime you drop the bombs. And I say that having implored [General] Wesley Clark to start the bombing in Kosovo sooner than he did. Military intervention is a tragic choice -- though sometimes the less violent of all of the choices.

Q: Why did you implore General Clark to drop the bombs earlier?

A: I had watched the genocide in Bosnia, and I was convinced that Slobodan Milosevic (news - web sites) would respond to military force and [nothing] else.

Q: Any further thoughts?

A: The interesting question is whether the women warriors have the same motivation as the men warriors.

Q: What's your answer?

A: I don't have an answer. I only have a niggling thought that there may not be the same kind of enjoyment of aggression that I see on the playground with my son and his friends. I'm convinced that boys and girls are different.


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To: WaveThatFlag
Most Women

Bill Clinton

any questions
81 posted on 04/15/2003 1:24:00 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (In those days... Every man did that which was right in his own eyes.)
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To: WaveThatFlag
Isa 3:12
82 posted on 04/15/2003 1:24:08 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (It's called "adoption" Perhaps you've heard of it?)
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To: WaveThatFlag
I don't know about women "ruling the world". That seems a silly hyperbole to me. But I do know this. Every single country, without exception, where women and men (and everyone else) are relatively equal and afforded equal human rights, legal rights etc. IS MORE PROSPEROUS in every single way possible to be prosperous, than countries in which women (and others) are in separate and lower castes and are prohibited from active particaption in the social/political/economic life of the nation.

Societies which cling to caste systems of any sort are NOT as prosperous as those who have eliminated caste systems.

Even among wealthy prosperous countries, the ones who are more more wealthy, more prosperous, and have the highest standards of living are those where women (and others) have the greatest degree of equality of opportunity as men. This pattern holds throughout history.

All of the countries on the planet where women are denied equal opportunity are (relative to countries which don't) dirt poor ..... virtual cesspits of poverty, disease, illiteracy and general backwardness that permeates through every facet of their societies.

There is a reason why there are long lines of people clamouring to get into the USA and other Westen countries, and not the other way around. Unfortunately, many of these people do not leave behind their archaic caste-driven attitudes, the very attitudes which make their societies places they wish to escape from.
83 posted on 04/15/2003 1:24:15 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: mabelkitty
"Name one successful Western woman in government?"

What do you mean by 'successful'? That's a pretty subjective term.

84 posted on 04/15/2003 1:24:49 PM PDT by MEGoody
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To: WaveThatFlag
On one hand I think women essentially do run the world in that they naturally have great psychological influence over men.

On a more concrete level I say: Let the men run it; I have better things to do.

;-)
85 posted on 04/15/2003 1:24:54 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: Brad's Gramma
It's more like Democratic party is the party for women, and they buy into that. The face of the Democratic party is no longer the working man, but the liberal woman and her effeminate friends Dean, Kucinich, etc.

As for the Republicans, they are the Alpha Male party, as demonstrated by Rummy, Bush, and Cheney.

Believe me, the images are strong and evident every day.

86 posted on 04/15/2003 1:25:15 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: WaveThatFlag
What If Women Ran the World? ........

Toilet seats would be spring loaded so men would have to hold them up with one hand while they pissed.
87 posted on 04/15/2003 1:27:22 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: WaveThatFlag
"I'm convinced that boys and girls are different."

Really? I'm shocked, shocked!
88 posted on 04/15/2003 1:28:30 PM PDT by Rummyfan
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To: WaveThatFlag
Q: What's the idea behind Women Waging Peace

Communism. Whether they want to admit they are fifth columnists or Red Dupes or not.

Women Waging Peace Celebrates International Women's Day

28 February 1909 - Following a declaration by the Socialist Party of America, the first National Women's Day was held; women in the United States continued to observe this holiday on the last Sunday in February through 1913.

19 March 1911 - Accepting the 1910 proposal of the Socialist International, the first International Women's Day was held around the world to honor the women's movement. Over one million women and men participated in a series of rallies calling for suffrage for women and asserting the right of women to hold public office and to work; they also called for an end to discrimination against women.

February - March 1913 - Women held rallies around the world to protest the brewing world war and express solidarity. This is the first year Russian women observed International Women's Day.

February - March 1917 - Russian women, striking for "bread and peace," contributed to the downfall of Czar Nicholas, who abdicated on 8 March, four days after the strike began.

1975 - During International Women's Year, the United Nations began celebrating March 8 as International Women's Day.

They omitted Lenin officially recognizing the holiday.

Some see the Cold War as beginning right after WWII but the socialist agenda had affected America at the beginning of the previous century and saddled us with things from inheritance tax (which is now admittedly a plan to redistribute wealth and nothing else) and a larger government.

89 posted on 04/15/2003 1:29:33 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: Post Toasties
would you mind rephrasing that to make sense in syntax?
90 posted on 04/15/2003 1:30:16 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: WaveThatFlag
If women ran the world there would never be religious disputes. There would never be disputes based on ideology. Scarceity of material resources would never factor in. Famine would not be a factor. Disease would never occur. There would not be any disputes based on national borders. Yep, if women ran the world everything would be just perfect and they would never have to deal with all those petty, inconsequential things that men have trifled and warred over. The bond of sisterhood would trump all of the factors that have made men the idiots they have been for all these years. Add in a couple of platoons of gay men to work with the women rulers, and the entire world would be one big happy rainbow of wonderfulness.

I hate articles like this.
91 posted on 04/15/2003 1:30:19 PM PDT by spodefly (This is my tag line. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Lorianne
I think in many cases the prosperity came before "career women" came along.

In these poor countries, women work their asses off. Think pre refrigeration and washing machine days.

More prosperous nations tend to be more egalitarian because they are prosperous in the first place.

I would also point out that more children in day care so family's can attain a higher standard or living quicker or so the woman can be "fulfilled" is not in my view always a great thing.

Bet you're not suprised..lol
92 posted on 04/15/2003 1:31:33 PM PDT by wardaddy (Hootie to head EEOC...)
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To: k2blader
purly psychological, eh? i was thinking in ore areas than just that, but sure... that too
93 posted on 04/15/2003 1:31:46 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: ggekko
Let's see...
Evita Peron
Winnie Mandela
Imelda Marcos
The chick married to the Shah of Iran
Michelle Devalier
The chick in charge of the Phillipines

94 posted on 04/15/2003 1:34:04 PM PDT by mabelkitty
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To: mabelkitty
interesting comment. Look at the 2000 election:

Single women voted for Gore, overwhelminging; BUT...

Married women voted for Bush (about 58%)

Further,
Married women with children are very conservative.

Your comment might explain it all.
95 posted on 04/15/2003 1:34:25 PM PDT by fqued
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To: Lorianne
Every single country, without exception, where women and men (and everyone else) are relatively equal and afforded equal human rights, legal rights etc. IS MORE PROSPEROUS...

That is perfectly correct. The single biggest reason Bernard Lewis cites for the nearly universal impoverishment of latterday Islamic culture it the disenfranchisement of women. Where these are most able to participate - Turkey, for example - their countries are most wealthy.

Many people cite Japan as an example of a country that is wealthy but still subordinates women. This is an error. In Japan the women control a higher percentage of the overall spending than they do in any Western country including the United States. I mention this to highlight the difference between empowering women and making them figureheads. Only the former will help. Sticking a Hillary in office just because she is a woman (I believe) is a futile gesture.

96 posted on 04/15/2003 1:34:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: dennisw
What If Women Ran the World? ........ Toilet seats would be spring loaded so men would have to hold them up with one hand while they pissed.

ROFL!!!! And the springs would be extra tight so men would have to keep a firm grip on it so it won't snap shut.

97 posted on 04/15/2003 1:38:15 PM PDT by wimpycat ('Nemo me impune lacessit')
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To: MacDorcha
Purely psychological, eh?

Well, not necessarily. That's open for argument.

;-)

98 posted on 04/15/2003 1:38:48 PM PDT by k2blader ("Mercy, detached from Justice, grows unmerciful." - C. S. Lewis)
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To: WaveThatFlag
What If Women Ran the World?

You mean they don't?

99 posted on 04/15/2003 1:39:52 PM PDT by Publius6961 (p>)
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To: mabelkitty
"Let them eat cake!"
100 posted on 04/15/2003 1:40:47 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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