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As I Predicted, George W. Bush Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban
Toogood Reports ^ | April 15, 2003 | By Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 04/14/2003 7:45:39 PM PDT by Uncle Bill

Edited on 04/17/2003 6:40:21 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

As I Predicted, George W. Bush
Is Backing Bill Clinton's Gun Ban

TooGood Reports
By Chuck Baldwin
Chuck Baldwin Website
April 15, 2003

In this column dated December 17, 2002, I predicted that President G.W. Bush would support the so-called assault weapons ban first promoted by former President Bill Clinton and Sen. Diane Feinstein back in 1994. Interestingly enough, the gun ban became law on the strength of a tie-breaking vote by then Vice President Al Gore. The ban is scheduled to sunset next year, but Bush is joining Clinton and Gore in supporting an extension.

Presidential spokesman Scott McClellan said, "The president supports the current law (the Clinton gun ban), and he supports reauthorization of the current law."

This must come as quite a blow to people such as the leaders of the National Rifle Association who campaigned heavily for Bush touting him as a "pro-gun" candidate. Since his election, the NRA and others have repeatedly reaffirmed their support for Bush, because he is "pro-gun." Well, now the mask is off!

I have tried to warn my readers that Bush is not a true conservative. He is not pro-life; he is not pro-family; he is not pro-Constitution. And now we know he is not pro-gun.

Instead of reversing the miserable policies of Clinton/Gore, Bush is helping to harden the cement around those policies. The gun issue is no exception.

The so-called assault weapons ban was the benchmark piece of legislation reflecting the anti-gun policies of people such as Clinton, Gore, Feinstein, and New York Senator Charles Schumer. It was also the number one target of the NRA. In fact, the NRA all but promised their supporters that a Bush presidency would help reverse this Draconian gun ban. Instead, Bush is pushing Congress to extend the ban.

A bill to reauthorize the gun ban will be introduced by Senator Feinstein in the coming weeks. It must pass both chambers of Congress to reach the President's desk. The best chance of stopping it will be in the House of Representatives. However, in order to defeat this bill, it must resist the power and influence of the White House. This will be no small task.

Not only is Bush betraying the pro-gun voters who helped elect him, he is breathing new life into a nearly dead anti-gun movement. Most political analysts credit Bush's pro-gun image as the chief reason he defeated Al Gore in the 2000 election. They also credit the pro-gun image of the Republican Party for helping them to achieve impressive wins in the 2002 congressional elections.

Now, Bush is giving new credibility to anti-gun zealots such as Schumer and Feinstein and is helping to reinvigorate the anti-gun momentum that had all but been put on ice.

However, the real question will be, "Will pro-gun conservatives continue to support Bush?" Bush is every bit the "Teflon President" that Clinton was. Conservatives seem willing to overlook anything he does, no matter how liberal or unconstitutional it may be. Will they overlook this, also?

If you truly believe in the Second Amendment and are willing to do something about it, I suggest you go to the Gun Owners of America website. They have a quick link set up which allows people an opportunity to conveniently send email to the White House about this issue. Go to the gun ban "alert" button. From there you can voice your disapproval with the President's decision to betray his constituents by supporting this new round of gun control.

Once again, the ball of freedom and constitutional government is in the court of the American people. Will they keep the ball and do something with it, or will they hand it off to the neo-conservatives at the White House? We'll see.


PLEASE Don't Sit out 2004, EVEN IF Bush signs the AW ban extention

Bush Supports New Extension Of Assault-Weapons Ban

Bush Backs Renewing Assault Weapons Ban



"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

Republican Leadership Help Push Gun Control

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

or

A Problem With Guns?


Thanks for that Patriot Act George


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial
KEYWORDS: assaultweaponsban; bang; banglist; bush; guns; secondamendment
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To: Fred Mertz; tpaine

That's what tpaine always says. Isn't that so, tpaine?

81 posted on 04/14/2003 8:28:44 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Mulder
I don't think the Constitution gives us unlimited rights to do anything. I think you misinterpret the Constitution. For instance, we may have the right to free speech, but we don't have the right to yell, "Fire" in a public theater, when there is none. Try it sometime. You'll end up in jail. We may have freedom of religion, but if our religion called for human sacrifice, and you did it, you would be tried for murder.
82 posted on 04/14/2003 8:28:52 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Fred Mertz
It ain't gonna happen Mulder. Except in pussy ass California.

Quite a few Kalifornians have simply chosen to move out of the state or move their weapons to neighboring states to avoid the actions of an illegitimate regime out there.

If that crap ever starts happening at the national level, "moving" won't be an option anymore. Things will likely come to a head, and I know which dog I'll put money on in that fight.

83 posted on 04/14/2003 8:28:56 PM PDT by Mulder (No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough)
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To: Ramius
I will not vote for either one.

The RKBA is my litmus test on whether or not I like a politician.

Dubya is showing his true colors on the RKBA.
84 posted on 04/14/2003 8:29:15 PM PDT by Unwavering Conservative
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To: Keith
Oh, I completely agree with you. In essence, I meant that I don't see Democrats who get hung up on voting because of one issue their candidate stands for that they don't agree with. I've seen plenty of Republicans who won't vote for someone because of a stand on one single issue...that's technically a "principled" vote, just unreasonable in the long run.
85 posted on 04/14/2003 8:29:25 PM PDT by July 4th
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To: Capitalism2003
"and I don't think machine guns are necessary for hunting."

The AWB has nothing to do with machine guns, you should read it sometime.
86 posted on 04/14/2003 8:29:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: diamond6
The public IS allowed to purchase machine guns. Look it up.

Subject to background checks and taxes, no FEDERAL law prohibits ownership by a civilian of a fully-automatic weapon.

However, this odious piece of legislative excrement does NOT cover Machine guns. It only covers semiauto sporters which happen to resemble military arms.

87 posted on 04/14/2003 8:29:57 PM PDT by Long Cut (ORION Naval Aircrewman!)
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To: Mulder
"The only way I could ever envision them being used against people is to defend the Constitution against all her enemies."

Four students shot, one killed, at New Orleans high school

O2

88 posted on 04/14/2003 8:30:10 PM PDT by omegatoo (I'll give up my shoulder-fired missile launcher when they pry it from my cold, dead, hands)
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To: Fred Mertz
Did you wear your jackboots to this month's Pubbie meeting spinky?

You're no conservative, and everyone knows it.

Says you. Fred, you high-fiving a ridiculous conspiracist like Uncle Bill ought to be beneath you, but, I guess not.

It's funny to watch you old bulls in high dudgeon over something that's over eighteen months away, and may not happen anyway.

89 posted on 04/14/2003 8:30:56 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: DBrow
I admittedly am not as knowledgeable about these weapons, as I previously stated. However, I do think that there's got to be a limit on what is allowed. Would you allow a machine gun to be purchased by anyone?
90 posted on 04/14/2003 8:31:28 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: diamond6
would you be in favor of allowing the public to purchase machine guns?

Sure. Actually: They are legal. Machine guns aren't illegal, they are merely very heavily taxed. You could get the license to own one if you wished, though now I think the fee is now something like $600/year.

An important thing to keep in perspective here is: what weapons are normally used in street crime? The answer is usually cheap throwaway guns, not expensive guns that most enthusiasts would own.

The real threat on the streets would come from *banning* guns. This would force the drug gangbangers into the gun import trade along with the drug import trade. The international arms markets being what they are... the gangbangers would end up importing *much* more dangerous hardware than they are now using. Journalists freak out over drive-by shootings done with AK-knockoffs that are actually just semiautomatic rifles. I cannot even imagine the verbage they'd use if drive-by shooting were happening with RPG's, M-60's and Grenades. If we want to find out, then all we have to do is ban all the guns. We'll see it soon enough.

91 posted on 04/14/2003 8:31:41 PM PDT by Ramius
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To: Cultural Jihad
I thought I told you to crawl back under your rock.

92 posted on 04/14/2003 8:31:43 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Capitalism2003
and I don't think machine guns are necessary for hunting.
Breaking News: Machine guns have been under very strict regulation since the 1930s and cannot be purchased at Walmart (FDR). When Feinstein or Schumer or Rather use the term "assault-weapons", it is a SUBJECTIVE term referring to guns that have high-capacity magazines or "military" appearances. Oh, and in some states (CA is one) the 15 rd magazines and certain types of shotguns are ILLEGAL. The largest percentage of handgun-related crimes are committed with handguns, including the ones that kill cops.
93 posted on 04/14/2003 8:31:55 PM PDT by scubadave (to secure peace is to prepare for war...)
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To: DBrow
are portable machine/tommy guns really that different from assault rifles?
94 posted on 04/14/2003 8:32:02 PM PDT by Capitalism2003
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To: Uncle Bill
As I predicted Chuck Baldwin has written an article about his predicting Bush would support a weapon's ban
95 posted on 04/14/2003 8:32:14 PM PDT by woofie
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To: diamond6
I don't think the Constitution gives us unlimited rights to do anything.

The Constitution doesn't "give" us anything. It simply enumerates SOME of our Rights as Free men and women.

For instance, we may have the right to free speech, but we don't have the right to yell, "Fire" in a public theater, when there is none.

First of all, we DO have the Right to Free speech. There isn't a "may" about it. Second, yelling "Fire" in a public theater is fraud, and should be dealt with as such. Finally, there is no prior restraint placed on movie goers to prevent them from yelling "fire". In other words, they aren't gagged. Those who do fraudently yell "fire" are dealt with by the law. Everyone else is left alone, as it should be.

96 posted on 04/14/2003 8:32:50 PM PDT by Mulder (No matter how paranoid you are, you're not paranoid enough)
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To: Long Cut
I don't believe there is any reason that machine guns should be allowed. If they are legal now, I don't understand why. However, I'd like you provide documentation to support your assertion that they are.
97 posted on 04/14/2003 8:32:54 PM PDT by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: Capitalism2003
"student at JCC"

go to a real college and then we can talk.

=/
98 posted on 04/14/2003 8:33:01 PM PDT by toothless (I AM A MAN)
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To: Mulder
Like you said !!
99 posted on 04/14/2003 8:33:07 PM PDT by noutopia
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To: sinkspur
You don't own any weapons, do you?
100 posted on 04/14/2003 8:33:10 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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