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Alien Chasers Richard Hoagland
TLC ^ | april-14-2003 | tlc.com

Posted on 04/14/2003 2:32:11 PM PDT by green team 1999

alien chasers

Richard Hoagland

When a friendly journalist leaked to Richard Hoagland details of the plot of the upcoming film Mission to Mars, he was simultaneously ecstatic and suspicious.

The film apparently depicts the discovery of an immense artificial structure on the martian surface that resembles a face — a touch eerily evocative of Hoagland's belief that the Viking I probe photo from 1976 depicts precisely such a structure in the Cydonia region of Mars' northern hemisphere.

But that unrecognized nod to his theories only gave him pause; he notes that his longtime adversary, NASA — whose officials have sought to debunk Hoagland's Mars face as a photographic glitch — have been conspicuously involved in the film project.

As often is his inclination, Hoagland divines a hidden meaning: A cabal of dissenters within the space agency, he speculates, must be moving to embrace the martian-face theory at last.

"I would say there is a group in NASA using this (film) as a vehicle to run it up the flagpole," he says. "I'm fascinated why now is the time someone would decide to put it out there, in a major motion picture."

Hoagland is an exoarcheologist, a specialist in the study of archeological sites on other worlds. It is a particularly speculative discipline, since, as Joel Achenbach notes in his book Captured By Aliens, it depends upon the yet-unproven assumption that there is extraterrestrial life to create such ruins.

Yet Hoagland, a frequent guest on the Art Bell radio show, is not without some credentials. He earned an undergraduate degree in astronomy, and worked as a curator of a space museum in Springfield, Mass.

As a journalist, he worked as a science consultant for CBS News during the coverage of the race to the moon, and subsequently wrote for publications such as Star and Sky and Science Digest.

According to Achenbach's book, in the 1970s Hoagland gave Carl Sagan the idea of putting a message on the Voyager satellites to greet extraterrestrials, in case other beings someday found the craft.

In 1980, he authored a well-regarded article in Star and Sky speculating about the possibility of life in the oceans beneath the icy outer layer of the Jovian moon Europa.

From those relatively staid beginnings, Hoagland ventured out into the rarefied upper atmosphere of the search for extraterrestrial life, where the molecules of scientific hypotheses start to intermingle and collide with conspiracy theories and mysticism.

In the early 1980s, Hoagland subsequently championed the idea that the martian formation was an immense, artificial object — a humanoid face a mile long. Additionally, he has argued that there are other objects around the face: pyramids, located in relation to one another at angles of 19.5 degrees, remnants of an ancient, seminal interplanetary civilization whose handiwork may also include the Great Pyramid of Giza, Stonehenge and the circular Native American ruins recently discovered in Miami.

A subsequent probe's high-resolution photo, in NASA's view, shows the face to be an illusion; Hoagland suggests that the "new" photo is a fake, part of a government conspiracy to cover up evidence of extraterrestrials.

"We need good reporters to delve behind the propaganda and find out what is going on," he says.

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: europa; faceonmars; mars; nasa; paramids; piramids; pyramids; snakeoil
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To: green team 1999
Alien Chasers

Alien chasers? Did somebody say 'alien chasers'!?


41 posted on 04/14/2003 3:50:33 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Subvert the dominant cliche!)
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To: Dialup Llama
art bell mention it before on the air,he said"don`t follow or change your life for what you listen here,this after all is a talk show" for entertainment ,or something like that.
42 posted on 04/14/2003 3:52:29 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: SealSeven
Then why is it that when people of most religions pray, they look out into the heavens?

Hey, don't forget about the Hollow Earth crowd. Which way do THEY prey? ;)

Seriously, how would you picture Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell addressing the flock if there were solid proof of a former alien colony on Mars? THAT would be must-see TV!

43 posted on 04/14/2003 3:53:00 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Cyclops08
Don't hold back, Cyclops, let us know how you REALLY feel!

;)

44 posted on 04/14/2003 3:54:33 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Orangedog
the brookings report given to the gvnmt years ago mention we are not ready for a release info about aliens or ufo`s,would create chaos!
45 posted on 04/14/2003 3:56:23 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: IYAS9YAS
exactly,after 9-11 the spraying continued. by large military aircraft.
46 posted on 04/14/2003 4:00:51 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: anymouse
This guy has made a living off of other people's gulibility.

Like most politicians....

47 posted on 04/14/2003 4:03:41 PM PDT by thepitts (Hell hath no fury like vested interest masquerading as a moral principle!!)
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To: Orangedog
To be honest, I dont know. However, proof of life on other planets does not prove God doesnt exist. I guess one could say that God is an alien. What is sad is that the mere word "alien" conjures up little green men with basketball sized heads and stick-men bodies.
48 posted on 04/14/2003 4:03:41 PM PDT by SealSeven
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To: Orangedog
if there were solid proof of a former alien colony on Mars?

That's the thing, of course. Until we get there to poke around the Martian dust looking for artifacts, which way should we assume, that there was an alien colony on Mars or that it was one of ours?

49 posted on 04/14/2003 4:03:58 PM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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To: green team 1999
Brookings had some valid points for its time. Hard to tell how people would react now. Take a look at what Orson Wells managed to do with his little radio show.
50 posted on 04/14/2003 4:04:35 PM PDT by Orangedog (Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
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To: Dialup Llama
"...why aren't these guys playing bridge with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett."

LOL!! The whole concept of remote viewing has always been bogus to me, but it is promoted by Dames, etc. to be a tool used by the military. I wish some military guy would call in and say, "hooey".
Whenever a caller asks him about a particular situation or event, he says something like, "I have to be careful."
51 posted on 04/14/2003 4:14:45 PM PDT by whadizit
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To: Orangedog; RightWhale; SealSeven; anymouse; IYAS9YAS; Cyclops08; Dialup Llama; All
well, got bad news,they mention few times,different guests about the year 2012,the alien invasion(also mentioned on the x-files)will begin.

but then again,is just a radio talk show to entertain people late at night.

52 posted on 04/14/2003 4:15:09 PM PDT by green team 1999
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To: Orangedog
Watch out what you wish for. Proof of an advanced civilization, even one that died out thousands of years ago, on another planet could possibly topple one of the pillars of society...namely religion. Religious leaders from every faith would have a lot of explaining to do to the faithful. Hard telling how that would pan out.

It wont even phase the philosophical concept of God and who cares if someone's religious feelings gets hurt. It is called growing I think ;)

Besides you can doubt god all you want but there is no escape from religion which requires no god.

53 posted on 04/14/2003 4:15:22 PM PDT by PuNcH
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To: green team 1999; All
Hoagland is an absolute wacko.

I wouldn't give those types the time of day, but I listen to Larry Elder on WLS, and was too lazy to get up from the PC and change the station once his show was over, and lo and behold there was Hoagland. For more than 30 minutes he tried to rouse the deeply disturbed about how the flag on Hussein's (statue) face was upside down. DANGER! DANGER!

Yawn....
54 posted on 04/14/2003 4:20:38 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered....)
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To: green team 1999
Just for laughs I attended a Hoagland seminar at the U of Washington in the summer of '94, a short while before comet Shoemaker-Levy was to crash into Jupiter. Hoagie spent a good half hour (at least) explaining how he had determined that the angle of the approaching comet was a "sacred geometrical" one, and that the inevitable result of the collision would be the complete annihilation of Jupiter in a huge explosion. The mostly nutty audience sat in rapt attention and awe, but I had to bite my tongue to keep from laughing him right off the stage. Needless to say, Jupiter is still with us.

The main body of the lecture dealt with his thesis that there was once an advanced civilization on our moon, and he showed us a bunch of photo slides that he obtained from NASA to "prove" it! Well, then came the surreal part. He used his pointer on the screen to show us these faint "stuctures" both on and above the lunar landscape. Problem is, I couldn't see a damn thing! But many others in the audience were nodding their heads as if they did! It was Twilight Zone material.

After the presentation, a few of us got to talking outside, and I got everyone present to admit that they didn't see anything either.

Richard Hoagland is a complete...uh...lunatic.

55 posted on 04/14/2003 4:41:09 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: John H K
Say what you like about Hoagland, but he knew there were ice floes and water on Mars long before NASA came to that conclusion.

Frankly, I find the images from the surface of Mars absolutely fascinating. Whether or not he's right about the rest of it is anyone's guess, but the images themselves are, to me, very interesting.

56 posted on 04/14/2003 4:42:36 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: JoJo Gunn
For more than 30 minutes he tried to rouse the deeply disturbed about how the flag on Hussein's (statue) face was upside down. DANGER! DANGER!

LOL...He's getting loonier by the second.

57 posted on 04/14/2003 4:42:58 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: green team 1999
Pseudo-science placemarker.
58 posted on 04/14/2003 4:45:03 PM PDT by Junior (Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes.)
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To: John H K
And don't forget those Flying Rods! Go here for the fantastic, the amazing, the incredible flying rods!

Of course, here is a logical explanation for the RODS!

59 posted on 04/14/2003 4:55:04 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: postmodernism_kills
Funny thing about the evilutionist---they can't explain how dead chemicals became a living organism.

But aren't all living organisms made up of "dead chemicals"?

60 posted on 04/14/2003 4:58:51 PM PDT by judgeandjury (The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the state.)
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