Posted on 04/14/2003 2:32:11 PM PDT by green team 1999
alien chasers
Richard Hoagland
When a friendly journalist leaked to Richard Hoagland details of the plot of the upcoming film Mission to Mars, he was simultaneously ecstatic and suspicious.
The film apparently depicts the discovery of an immense artificial structure on the martian surface that resembles a face a touch eerily evocative of Hoagland's belief that the Viking I probe photo from 1976 depicts precisely such a structure in the Cydonia region of Mars' northern hemisphere.
But that unrecognized nod to his theories only gave him pause; he notes that his longtime adversary, NASA whose officials have sought to debunk Hoagland's Mars face as a photographic glitch have been conspicuously involved in the film project.
As often is his inclination, Hoagland divines a hidden meaning: A cabal of dissenters within the space agency, he speculates, must be moving to embrace the martian-face theory at last.
"I would say there is a group in NASA using this (film) as a vehicle to run it up the flagpole," he says. "I'm fascinated why now is the time someone would decide to put it out there, in a major motion picture."
Hoagland is an exoarcheologist, a specialist in the study of archeological sites on other worlds. It is a particularly speculative discipline, since, as Joel Achenbach notes in his book Captured By Aliens, it depends upon the yet-unproven assumption that there is extraterrestrial life to create such ruins.
Yet Hoagland, a frequent guest on the Art Bell radio show, is not without some credentials. He earned an undergraduate degree in astronomy, and worked as a curator of a space museum in Springfield, Mass.
As a journalist, he worked as a science consultant for CBS News during the coverage of the race to the moon, and subsequently wrote for publications such as Star and Sky and Science Digest.
According to Achenbach's book, in the 1970s Hoagland gave Carl Sagan the idea of putting a message on the Voyager satellites to greet extraterrestrials, in case other beings someday found the craft.
In 1980, he authored a well-regarded article in Star and Sky speculating about the possibility of life in the oceans beneath the icy outer layer of the Jovian moon Europa.
From those relatively staid beginnings, Hoagland ventured out into the rarefied upper atmosphere of the search for extraterrestrial life, where the molecules of scientific hypotheses start to intermingle and collide with conspiracy theories and mysticism.
In the early 1980s, Hoagland subsequently championed the idea that the martian formation was an immense, artificial object a humanoid face a mile long. Additionally, he has argued that there are other objects around the face: pyramids, located in relation to one another at angles of 19.5 degrees, remnants of an ancient, seminal interplanetary civilization whose handiwork may also include the Great Pyramid of Giza, Stonehenge and the circular Native American ruins recently discovered in Miami.
A subsequent probe's high-resolution photo, in NASA's view, shows the face to be an illusion; Hoagland suggests that the "new" photo is a fake, part of a government conspiracy to cover up evidence of extraterrestrials.
"We need good reporters to delve behind the propaganda and find out what is going on," he says.
for information and discusion only,not for profit,etc,etc.
Like quartz and salt, etc.crystals and pollen grains and geodesic arrangmenents of cells and regular fractal patterns in fern leaves and squares and rectangles in reticulated patterns on dried mud flats, and tesselations of pefect hexagons in snowflakes and and and...
Don't sell Nature short...there is just about everything there.
Really. Imagine something that would bring to a halt all the petty activites of our species. But we need something that CANNOT be explained any other way, to any reasonable person- Something that would be the end of all arguments.
I almost wish one of the Mars Landers had found old tires and beer cans...Even THAT!
nasa is moving too slow on mars,hhhhmm.
Hoagland was right about europa but also about water on mars,long before nasa.
George Norrie has a problem. There were only7 2 people who could lie to America: Bill Clinton and Art Bell. George is neither one of them. A show based on lies cannot prosper.
but they reached 500 stations and are the number one show on many cities?,only rush is bigger with 600 stations.
something big and catastrophic happen to mars.
Watch out what you wish for. Proof of an advanced civilization, even one that died out thousands of years ago, on another planet could possibly topple one of the pillars of society...namely religion. Religious leaders from every faith would have a lot of explaining to do to the faithful. Hard telling how that would pan out.
Alot of people with mental illnesses call and are very troubled by what George Norrie presents. Wonder if that ever bothers him? Why doesn't he say, 'Hey my show is a bunch of lies, do not change your life based on what you hear.' We already know of a group of 15 people who killed themselves because the lies that Art Bell presented accidentally fit their doomsday scenario.
The main features of the show dovetail exactly with features of mental illnesses- a feeling of impending doom, a feeling of external control, a feeling of being watched, a feeling of exaggerated importance (special powers or being a spy etc...).
The last guest they had which made me mad was the Bipolar Major- Ed Dames, the remote viewer. He even got the parents of a missing child involved in some stunt to 'locate' her with remote viewing. How callow. Of BTW, he was wrong about the Iraq war, as usual. So take that Mr. 'remote viewer.'
As I always said, if remote viewing is the slightest bit true, then why aren't these guys playing bridge with Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?
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