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Turning women into cannon fodder
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | April 11, 2003 | Robert Knight

Posted on 04/13/2003 2:02:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

You couldn't help but be elated upon hearing that Pfc. Jessica Lynch was rescued. But it was a little like the relief that parents experience before the anger sets in after junior has done a death-defying stunt and lived to tell about it.

Many brave men risked their lives to save Pfc. Lynch following an Iraqi man's report that a woman soldier was being tortured at a hospital. We still don't know what the Iraqis did to her. The two broken legs and spinal injury indicate torture. No word on whether she was sexually assaulted as well. Her comrades, most of them men, did not fare as well, with nearly a dozen bodies found.

Instead of shaking off our '60s feminist hangover and vowing to end the lunacy of sending young women like Miss Lynch into harm's way, you'd think her brutalization was actually a good thing.

Gen. Wilma Vaught, the harridan who wants to draft our daughters and put them into combat, gushed that Miss Lynch reportedly took out some Iraqis on the way to being captured, so this proves women ought to be in the front lines.

Liberals like the terminally grimacing Patricia Schroeder echoed the call, saying it is time to end all combat exemptions for women, since, in our enlightened way, we are not supposed to care that wives and daughters are turned into hamburger by enemy troops.

Liberalism has a remarkable record for worsening any situation. Are welfare programs destroying black families and creating poverty and crime in the nation's cities? Throw more money at them to snag even more people into a failed system! Does gun control exacerbate crime by disarming innocent citizens? Press for tighter controls!

On the military front, the armed forces have been in full retreat from liberal feminists. If the Navy's Tailhook sex scandal during the '90s proved anything, it is that men and women mixed tightly together will create spontaneous combustion. Instead of admitting this simple truth, feminists used Tailhook to "out" recalcitrant traditionalists who opposed putting women closer to combat. Naval officers who could fearlessly face down enemy fire cowered before the, uh, ladies.

The same folly was at work recently at the Air Force Academy, where several female cadets reported sexual assaults by male cadets. The Academy's response? They took down the big letters over a stone arch that read: "Bring Me Men." That's right, men. Real men. The kind that don't assault women and who think that protecting women from harm is one of the duties that God assigned them. Let's opt for androgyny instead.

The more that we buy into the fiction that women are indistinguishable from men, the more we sleepwalk into an unfolding disaster.

Forget about Miss Lynch for a moment. How about Pfc. Lori Ann Peistewa, the first U.S. servicewomen killed in Iraq? She left behind two preschool kids, aged 3 and 4. Her body was found at the site where Miss Lynch was rescued. Or how about Shoshana Johnson, a single mother of a 2-year-old? We have not heard anything about her since the Iraqis released a haunting photo of her frightened face, along with those of some male comrades.

"Jessica was a clerk, essentially a secretary, doing yeoman's work, I might add," said Martha Kleder, a Culture and Family Institute policy analyst who served with the Air Force in Alaska. "Shoshana Johnson joined the Army to be a cook. Today, no woman is safe in the military. There are no more rear-support jobs. All women should expect to be made cannon fodder. Thanks, Pat Schroeder, thanks for your utter glee that these women who only wanted to serve their country in rear-support jobs are now facing hostile enemy fire."

Political correctness at the Pentagon hangs in the air like Napalm smoke. At the press conference announcing Miss Lynch's rescue, the spokesman lauded her as a "brave woman," and then turned to give credit to her rescuers. "We have to remember" – and then he paused ever so slightly – "the brave souls" who risked their lives to save Miss Lynch. Had he used the term "brave men," it would have clarified the absurdity of putting Miss Lynch near the front lines in the first place.

Americans are probably largely unaware that women are prohibited from being on the front lines, a policy increasingly being broken by our gender-neutral military.

The practice of turning women into cannon fodder got a huge boost when the Clinton administration largely dispensed with the "risk rule," which exempts women from jobs in which they are likely to face enemy fire. Although women are still not technically in combat, it sure looks like they are.

Take 2nd Lt. Sarah Ewing Skinner, for instance. With her "finger on the trigger of her M-16, [she] gives the order to move forward as troops under her command prepared to storm 20 derelict buildings where die-hard Iraqi defenders may have taken refuge," the Associated Press reports in an article headlined "Not for men only." Now isn't that special? Women are supposed to be exempted from combat, and yet they are going house to house just like the grizzled Vic Morrow and his squad in the old "Combat" TV show.

The loophole is that they are serving as military police, and those squads have been ordered to do dangerous cleanup work that looks a lot like combat. In fact, it is combat.

"In Iraq, this stuff includes escorting supply convoys through ambush-prone areas, sweeping villages for weapons, arresting Iraqis hostile to U.S. forces and handling prisoners of war," AP said. Pvt. Kristi Grant, a military policewoman, told AP, "I guess the only thing is that I can't lift some of the same things males do, but I try." How would you like to be her comrade, wounded and in need of being dragged to safety? A good try wouldn't cut it.

There are some other key physical differences between the sexes, but you would never know it from the AP report. Sex means nothing: "She quickly got over her initial anxiety about being squeezed into a tent with male soldiers and discovered 'we were much like one family.'" Nothing about the jealousy, broken marriages and fights that erupted during the Gulf War when men and women were billeted together. Do any parents really want their 20-year-old daughter sleeping in a tent with a bunch of men?

"Women are treated like trash, they're objects in the service," said former Marine Cpl. Carmelo Torres. "They may talk PC, but it's a different story behind closed doors. Women are treated like dirt."

Torres recalls being stationed at the Quantico Marine base in Virginia and seeing staff sergeants picking out attractive young women and declaring them off-limits to other men. "In the women's barracks, the women were being sexually harassed by the lesbians when they weren't being hit on by the men," he said. "Two of the lesbians got new recruits drunk so they could gang-rape them in the women's barracks."

This is not about military women's willingness to serve their country, which is commendable, or their bravery. America owes much to its women service members.

But they shouldn't be in combat. First, they are the bearers of life and the heart of family life, an utterly indispensable role. When America sends young women off to war, watching them kiss their toddlers goodbye, we are making a moral choice that children are just not important anymore. It is much more important to drive a military truck. This callousness is an outgrowth of the abortion culture in which human life itself is cheapened. Any job those women do could be done by a man, but nobody else can be a mother to her children. It is bad enough for children to lose their father, but it is utterly unnecessary for them to lose their mother. Raising children is the most important job in society, and yet it takes a back seat to feminist ambitions to pursue sameness in the name of equality.

Second, women lack the upper-body strength, endurance and speed of men, which, despite all the talk of "push-button wars," can be crucial in battle. As Elaine Donnelly of the Center for Military Readiness has said, "Women don't have an equal ability to survive on the battlefield."

Third, although some feminists claim that they have a right to serve if they want to, military service is a privilege and a duty – not a right. The armed forces bar numerous classes of people, regardless of individual ability, because they could have a negative impact. Homosexuals are a case in point. Putting women into combat endangers all of our daughters because in the 1986 case Rostker v. Goldberg, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that women could not be drafted because they did not serve in combat, and that Congress had the power only to raise armies to fight wars. A few feminists in the front lines could destroy that exemption.

Fourth, women have a profound effect on men. In 1948, the Israelis put women soldiers into the front lines, but had to pull them after a few weeks. Discipline broke down, morale plummeted and men ignored orders, rushing instead to protect the women. Some men lost their sanity when they saw women being blown apart. These men must have been chauvinist pigs.

The Israelis quickly grasped that women have no business being in combat, and that is their policy to this day. They train women for emergency situations, removing them if combat begins. But we have brushed aside that lesson. We are actually training men to ignore their noble impulse of being protectors. The Navy introduced a program a few years ago in which men were conditioned to endure the cries of women being tortured. The other services have adopted these programs as well. This is progress?

Imagine what these men will be like when the war is over and they return to civilian life. Do we really want thousands of men among us who are indifferent to women's cries of pain? That's a recipe for domestic violence and rape. The floodtide of pornography only makes it worse. But liberals like porn. It's religion they despise. As C.S. Lewis said, the social goal of liberals is to make religion private and pornography public.

It is barbaric to allow pornography to permeate our entire culture, and it is barbaric to put women in combat, even if they are fool enough to want to go.

We're glad that Miss Lynch made it to safety, but we would like to see the larger question addressed. What was she doing there in the first place?


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To: TracyLynn
"It would be great if the females were tested as rigorously and held to the same high standard as males, instead of being allowed to slide just because they're "a girl"."

is it just possible that women bring differant yet still valuble talents to the table?....is it just possible that women's natural tendencies....reflection, patience, team-oriented, stamina, and adaptability are perhaps as useful as total body strength and physical size?

afterall, a large percentage of military jobs nowadays are in support systems and technology....something done without super strength...

I just can not get over how much animosity there is against women on these war boards....

I get the impression that some freepers would like more women dead just to prove their point...geesh...

141 posted on 04/13/2003 7:56:54 PM PDT by cherry
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
Dude, get a look at the film (History Channel)of her getting herself killed. She had an eternity to eject and she din't eject till it was too late. Not a surprise when you consider he lack of qualification for the equipment!
142 posted on 04/13/2003 7:57:41 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Sorry, but the introduction of a woman to a male enviroment neccessarialy feminizes that enviromrnt. this has NEVER failed to be the case. No man in the military can tell a female "soldier" what he thinks of her performance if it is sub standard. he may even wind up on charges. Equality is the basis for morale. As for the idea that there are woman who can meet the standards, that is THE OLD HONEST standards, it simply isn't true. The BEST woman could do, that is the top single digits was only as good as the BOTTOM forty percent of the males but with this caveat: the woman couldn't get any better but the men COULD! iN SHORT there will always be a male better qualified next in line. If you believe anything else you have bought the line and should resume watching CNN.
143 posted on 04/13/2003 8:06:19 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: BenLurkin
Are you in favor of putting women in combat? You seem to be saying you're tied up with psychological innuendo you see in the article, yet with odd side comments carefully phrased. Why don't you just declare your position, take an honest stand and see how you do?

144 posted on 04/13/2003 8:07:32 PM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
So are you saying that the women are incapable of doing the jobs that they have been assigned to because their physical standards in boot camp are lower?


NOW YOU'RE GETTING IT. This is a doirect ouote from the NY Times magazine: "They can't do the jobs." They couldn't in Desert Storm and their male fellows had to do them for them. Now you're getting it!
145 posted on 04/13/2003 8:10:34 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: cherry
Utterly Moronic.
146 posted on 04/13/2003 8:14:22 PM PDT by TalBlack
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To: An American In Dairyland
Women can't create babies by themselves. Parthenogensis isn't possible with humans.

Only a father can render a child 'fatherless'
147 posted on 04/13/2003 8:39:37 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: BenLurkin
You are asking me the question that everyone should be asking you. I have given you a good solid reason, whereas your opion is "I can't help but think.." and you think your shrinkspeak is intelligent. I believe you are mistaken.

Do you like to keep asking the same already answered questions like Al Gore demanded for recounts until you hear what you want?

You bore me. Goodbye.
148 posted on 04/13/2003 8:52:57 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: An American In Dairyland
"And I am even more sorry yet for all the future fatherless children feminism will create while insisting it's a woman's business to do so."

You gotta give feminism credit though, where credit is due. If it weren't for feminism, all those aborted babies would be hanging around doing whatever bad things, or living however badly the murderous parent(s) thought allowing them to live would have brought us. I guess we have to thank them. (sarcasm, just in case BenLurkin is reading)
149 posted on 04/13/2003 9:03:39 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (Okie by proxy, raised by Yankees, temporarily Californian)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
When America sends young women off to war, watching them kiss their toddlers goodbye, we are making a moral choice that children are just not important anymore. It is much more important to drive a military truck.
150 posted on 04/13/2003 9:35:15 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: TalBlack
They could not fight to the degree deemed necessary by combat experience.

TalBlack, that may or may not be, but when I support the troops, in time of war especially, that means I do not countenance people calling them baby-killers or printing doctored photos on the front page of the L.A. Times that gives the impression to the casual reader that the soldier is pointing his rifle at civilians.

It also means that I do not indict a soldier as a nitwit, a liar, a coward, or an incompetent without facts, as a knee-jerk reaction because it promotes a political position I hold.

This is the same garbage that the Democrats are doing, salivating at every angle of a story that seems to vindicate their political position -- in their case against the war and against the military (read against a conservative President and against conservatives in general.)

I do not respect anyone at this site who is slandering/libeling a U.S. soldier in time of war. The opinion about women in the military can be respected; however, IMO it should be discussed after the war is over and then it should be discussed with FACTS, not with SLANDER before the FACTS are known.

Right now, "supporting the troops" to me means supporting ALL of them, and not singling out a particular group and lowering their morale with nasty comments.

And if you think I'm just defending PFC Lynch because she is female, then you should go to my profile page and find my threads for care packages for the troops that I started before 9/11 as well as my prayer thread for the troops. My position here is because I practice what I preach when it comes to supporting the troops.

151 posted on 04/14/2003 1:13:07 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In 1948, the Israelis put women soldiers into the front lines, but had to pull them after a few weeks. Discipline broke down, morale plummeted and men ignored orders, rushing instead to protect the women.

Doesn't anyone else recognize the evil liberal genius of putting women in combat? During combat, the more heroic-type men (i.e., Republicans) will rush forward and get themselves killed trying to save the women, while the liberal weenie-men will hold back and survive. Therefore, after the war is over, all you'll have left in society is a bunch of traumatized, psycho bulldykes and liberal weenie-men who either served or didn't (the latter having dodged the draft), and this population of pervs will henceforward elect democrapic presidents until the end of time . . . Genius . . . Sheer genius. We've got to stop these people.

152 posted on 04/14/2003 1:47:21 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Your gender neutral view does not coincide with reality.

What do you mean? They weren't competent? They weren't dedicated? They didn't do their job well? What?

153 posted on 04/14/2003 3:43:34 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Blue Collar Christian
In what capacity did you and these competent women serve?

I served with women in the Navy, both in my reserve unit and during my active duty time.

154 posted on 04/14/2003 3:45:42 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: alisasny
After such a blistering diatribe what can I say?

"war is dangerous so we want to remove women from danger, so we'll keep them out of the military"

There are many dangerous things in this world of ours, for instance driving a car is dangerous, but where is the outrage over allowing women to drive especially with children in the car?

Where is the outrage over the limp and broken bodies of young mothers cut out of their vehicles in while their children cry out for their mommy strapped into the child protection seats?

Flying dangerous, again where is the outrage over burnt and torn bodies of women pulled from the wreckage of airplane crashes, surely by denying women the right to fly their deathes can be avoided?

and what about marriage, where women are routinely beaten and murdered by those that promised to love cherish and keep them safe? should we also abolish marriage because it is unsafe?

Need I go on, because I can. The truth about women in the military is realtively simple, it is no more dangerous the getting into a car, or flying or even getting married. But the precieved risks are greater, because we all look at war as dangerous. We don't look at driving flying or marriage as even more dangerous then war, but they are.

It's time for a reality check, women that join the military know the risks they are taking and do so willingly, they know they are choosing in some small way to defend this country, and that perhaps they will have to defend this country by laying down their lives. As of yet none have demanded to be placed on the front lines and directly in harms way, but if it were availible only a few would, and if it were those that would want to serve in combat know the risks and would prepare for them.

In fact they'd be much better prepared meet the dangers of war then those women firing up their mommymobiles and heading off into traffic oblivous to the dangers of our highways and byways.

I suppose we could prevent their deaths by putting women in their place, you know, one ankle chained to the bed and the other chained to the stove, babies at their breast, barefoot and pregnant,

but then again they are at risk from common everyday house fires
and those chains are so heavy...
155 posted on 04/14/2003 4:50:43 AM PDT by usmcobra (cobra is looking for a better tagline. Got one?)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Others may disagree with me, and that's OK, they're just wrong.

VERY WRONG ... I would like a show of hands of the combat vets out here that would like to have a woman with them on frontline patrol or in a frontline foxhole ... I sure would not (except for that occasional long lonely dark night)

159 posted on 04/14/2003 6:51:53 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Credo Quia Absurdum)
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To: LibWhacker
Actually, your analysis is good. This may not be planned but I can certainly see it happening.

160 posted on 04/14/2003 6:58:23 AM PDT by William Terrell (People can exist without government but government can't exist without people.)
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