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“To Iraq and Ruin”: "American people are not committed to a U.S. invasion of Iraq" [Flashback]
San Francisco Chronicle | August 25, 2002 | Chris Matthews

Posted on 04/13/2003 12:52:05 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

“This invasion of Iraq, if it goes off, will join the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Desert One, Beirut and Somalia in the history of military catastrophe.”

The American people are not committed to a U.S. invasion of Iraq. Cheney's staff is. Rumsfeld's deputies are. The White House speech-writing office is. The guys they're working under are. But what about the families of those who will do the fighting? What about the country that will have to suffer the casualties that are the wreckage of every war?

A Washington Post/ABC poll found 57 percent of us back a ground attack on Baghdad but that's if there are no significant casualties. Faced with that prospect, 51 percent oppose it.

Is this a strong base from which to launch a pre-emptive attack on a country on the other side of the world? To send several hundred thousand U.S. service people on a mission to take over a country, remove its political leadership from power and install one of our choosing?

It's time to recall the Powell doctrine of the 1980s and recall the names that gave it resonance: Vietnam and Beirut.

With memories of those misconceived missions fresh and painful, then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger and his chief military assistant, Gen. Colin Powell, drafted new criteria for overseas military involvement.

War should be a last resort, undertaken only with precise political and military goals and clear support from the American public and the Congress. There must be a clear exit strategy, and a will to deploy overwhelming force.

Powell condemned the ambiguous mission objectives that led to the 1983 Lebanon fiasco that cost us the lives of so many young Marines:

"When the political objective is important, clearly defined and understood, when the risks are acceptable, and when the use of force can be effectively combined with diplomatic and economic policies, then clear and unambiguous objectives must be given to armed forces," Powell wrote in his autobiography. "When we use force we should not be equivocal; we should win and win decisively."

So we drop tens of thousands of airborne troops into Baghdad. We look for Saddam Hussein. We wear gas masks to protect us from whatever chemical and biological weapons the Iraqi leader has stockpiled for just this occasion. A threatened Israel mobilizes for war. All this against the backdrop of an Arab and Islamic world in riot. In Cairo, President Hosni Mubarak must tighten his grip, igniting even more opposition. Jordan's King Abdullah joins his country's Palestinian majority in condemning the attack. The Saudi Arabian royals are silent. The Muslims and anti-war elements of Europe take to the boulevards. Then comes the messy part.

Our troops in Baghdad morph into a nervous constabulary force. Their mission: guard streets, shoot snipers, arrest the suspicious, keep order, find the Hussein loyalists, round up the members of his ruling party, root out plots, battle the terrorists. For how long?

How long were we in Beirut before that "peacekeeping" mission ended with a barracks being blown sky-high by a suicide bomber? How long were we in Saigon? This invasion of Iraq, if it goes off, will join the Bay of Pigs, Vietnam, Desert One, Beirut and Somalia in the history of military catastrophe. What will set it apart, distinguishing it for all time, is the immense — and transparent — political stupidity.

A mission to attack one isolated enemy will end up isolating us. A mission justified by the fight with terrorism will give birth to millions of terrorist-supporting haters. In every cafe from Manila to Casablanca, just whom do you think they will be rooting for? Just whom will their kids be killing themselves for?


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: chrismatthews; fairweatheramerican; quagmire
This article was posted at National Review Online to illustrate the idiocy of the second-guessers and arm chair commandos.

Sunday, April 13, 2003

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1 posted on 04/13/2003 12:52:05 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 04/13/2003 12:52:54 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: JohnHuang2
They ought to take everything ever printed by Chris Matthews, perferate it, put it on rolls and ship it over to Iraq. They can use the paper. And he should resign and hang his head in shame. What a cowardly wuss.
3 posted on 04/13/2003 12:57:13 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Chris would have made a lousy weatherman.
4 posted on 04/13/2003 12:57:37 AM PDT by bybybill (first the public employees, next the fish and, finally, the children)
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To: bybybill
I know it was a 2003 Bay Of Pigs and we lost.
5 posted on 04/13/2003 12:58:18 AM PDT by goldstategop (Lara Logan Doesn't Hold A Candle Next To BellyGirl :))
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To: JohnHuang2
Well, we aren't out yet, so I don't deny what has begun well may not necessarily end well.

But this military is not your father's military, Chris.

6 posted on 04/13/2003 12:58:27 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: bybybill
Ouch! hehe
7 posted on 04/13/2003 12:59:22 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: Jim Robinson
Amen, Jim.
8 posted on 04/13/2003 12:59:47 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I always enjoy a nice stroll down memory lane. Especially when it makes me feel just a tad smug, er, right.
9 posted on 04/13/2003 1:01:00 AM PDT by Scothia (If you pray for rain, prepare to deal with some mud.)
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To: patriciaruth
And Dubya aint his Daddy's President! LOL
10 posted on 04/13/2003 1:01:54 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (FReepers are the GReatest!!)
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To: Scothia
;)
11 posted on 04/13/2003 1:04:49 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: patriciaruth; JohnHuang2; goldstategop
I must have missed the thread where Chris apologized and admited his was wrong.

Anybody got the link?
12 posted on 04/13/2003 1:05:04 AM PDT by Howlin (It's a great day to be an American -- or an Iraqi!)
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To: Howlin
He's never apologized. Till he and other arm chair commandos (who have been thoroughly discredited) do, we'll continue to remind them how wrong they were.
13 posted on 04/13/2003 1:06:40 AM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
And now these same little vipers are crawling out from under their rocks again to talk about how we'll never be able to establish law and order in Iraq. Make sure 'ya archive that too.
14 posted on 04/13/2003 1:32:10 AM PDT by ambrose
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To: JohnHuang2
Talking about the "Bay of Pigs". That's another mess that should be cleaned up.

If I were Castro, I'd be worried.
15 posted on 04/13/2003 4:16:21 AM PDT by jerod
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