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RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM...
Drudge ^ | 04-12-03 | Unknown as yet

Posted on 04/12/2003 4:12:40 PM PDT by Rocko

RUSSIA SPIED ON BLAIR FOR SADDAM... // Top secret documents obtained by the Sunday Telegraph in Baghdad show that Russia provided Saddam Hussein's regime with wide-ranging assistance in the months leading up to the war, including intelligence on private conversations between Tony Blair and other Western leaders... MORE...


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To: TLBSHOW
"America is selling itself out and has been since the 1930's and we still are. Stop dealing with North Korea stop feeding it stop helping it and it will fall same with Russia and all commies. "


Since North Korea broke their agreement with us a year after it was signed in 1994, we should be withholding ALL aid to them. Let China and Russia do their thing with Korea. And perhaps it's time to take our troops out of South Korea. 50 years is enough.
301 posted on 04/12/2003 7:07:41 PM PDT by bart99
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To: iopscusa
I believe Russian and others pretty much destroyed the UN by trying to subvert the whole organization....

You say that like it's a bad thing.    FReegards!
302 posted on 04/12/2003 7:10:35 PM PDT by GirlShortstop
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To: Rocko
bump
303 posted on 04/12/2003 7:10:50 PM PDT by OperationFreedom ( www.OperationFreedom.com)
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To: PhiKapMom
Just wanted to highlight that statement. Some of us have been clobbered for our opinions that Putin was not a friend of the United States and could not be trusted. Nice to see that more people are getting it!

I never fully trusted Russia/Putin .. mainly because they have a loooong history behind them. .. But I will admit I did have a little hope.

It's one thing for companies in Russia to help Saddam .. it's a TOTALLY different matter that the Government/Putin helped Saddam

Putin blew it BIG TIME

304 posted on 04/12/2003 7:11:54 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: Dog Gone; Rocko
Either Russia is able to decrypt the most sensitive British communications, or Russia has agents who can provide her texts of those communications, and those texts probably enable her to break the cyphers in which the communications were transmitted. Thus, even in the second case, it probably also results that Russia is able to decrypt the most sensitive British communications. We have presumably provided the UK most of our intelligence over Iraq -- as well as a lot over most other subjects. And Russia has apparently shared a lot of this intelligence with Saddam Hussein's Iraq.

Everyone on this thread can imagine what consequences derive from this.

305 posted on 04/12/2003 7:13:05 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: All
I'm surprised this information isn't being presented on Fox at all............ wonder if other networks have touched it.
306 posted on 04/12/2003 7:13:47 PM PDT by bart99
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To: Dog Gone
Spying may not be an act of war, but providing this intelligence to Iraq was an extremely unfriendly act.
307 posted on 04/12/2003 7:14:55 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: iopscusa
I believe Russian and others pretty much destroyed the UN by trying to subvert the whole organization....

Exactly. The only problem is they are still spewing forth the same hypocritical garbage, wanting to increase UN authority without admitting that they have proven incapable of following the UN's own rules. I hope the Russian and French violation of sanctions is thoroughly documented and publicized to the world over the next year or so. I don't know if it would be better for the US to leave the UN completely, or to stay on and pay them back on their own terms... for example vetoing resolutions without reading them, as france did.

308 posted on 04/12/2003 7:16:07 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever (Scott Ritter's breath smells like crow)
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To: aristeides
"Everyone on this thread can imagine what consequences derive from this."


The 'consequences' were that the WMD was wheeled into syria just before the war and put on Iraqi ships that are circling in radio silence in the arabian sea.
309 posted on 04/12/2003 7:16:21 PM PDT by bart99
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You're wrong there. Conoco and BP are there, probably others, also.
310 posted on 04/12/2003 7:16:32 PM PDT by Eva
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To: Rocko
BTTT
311 posted on 04/12/2003 7:16:42 PM PDT by Minutemen
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To: iopscusa
Ivan, lesson 1 is, don't use the code word,"International Law" in mixed company, it instantly puts the mark "C" for Commie on your forehead.+++

Accually I for international law just go. Russia may benefit from it. She may act more freely now.

Old russian proverb is "everything what happens is for better".
312 posted on 04/12/2003 7:17:24 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: dogbyte12
Turkey's history with the Armenians should be brought into the forefront of everybody's minds.

Turkey's treatment of the Armenians (and of the Assyrian Christians in what is now Iraq) is a black mark in her history. But keep in mind that, while the orders for the killing came from the Turkish government in Constantinople (Istanbul), most of the killing was done by Kurds.

313 posted on 04/12/2003 7:17:29 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: bart99
I don't think it is sexy enough maybe Fox news folks haven't caught off the wires

This kinda story that Fleet Street love Russian leader who happen to be KGB agent put his people spy on another country Leader Tony Blair and his going ons

Now that story for Fleet Street NOT Sexy enough for Fox news

Sexy for Fox news be like ahhhh J Lo marry that Airhead Chowerhead Ben Affleck
314 posted on 04/12/2003 7:17:46 PM PDT by SevenofNine (Not everybody in it for truth, justice, and the American way=Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: Theresa
I just don't believe any of this. Nothing will come of it. It's just too too....if you know what I mean. Things like this don't shake out that fast or that easily.

I know exactly what you mean, if this story is true, and these arent forgeries or some Iraqi plot to get us mad at the Russians, then this is a HUGE story that would be bigger than the war itself..

315 posted on 04/12/2003 7:17:53 PM PDT by Paradox
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Haliburton is in Russia, also. I know because I was seated with some Russian Halliburton employees at a dinner a few years ago.
316 posted on 04/12/2003 7:18:44 PM PDT by Eva
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To: iopscusa
I believe Russian and others pretty much destroyed the UN by trying to subvert the whole organization...+++

It is just you put ypur guilt on another guy.
Who violated UN capters then have the honor to destroy UN.
317 posted on 04/12/2003 7:18:56 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: EaglesUpForever
"I don't know if it would be better for the US to leave the UN completely, or to stay on and pay them back on their own terms... for example vetoing resolutions without reading them, as france did."



Since we're paying 40% of all costs of the UN, I think it could move itself to France and we can build some facilities for the olympics on the UN site..... or convert it to a Conservative University for Americans only. *s*
318 posted on 04/12/2003 7:19:32 PM PDT by bart99
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To: VRWC_minion
I don't know what you red. Read again.
"...Article 18.
The rights and liberties of man and citizen shall have direct effect. ..."

Direct effect! It means independent to ward everything including the state. State just support them.
319 posted on 04/12/2003 7:21:50 PM PDT by RusIvan
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To: Mo1
There was something there about Putin that I couldn't put my finger on but I couldn't bring myself to trust him. His expression on his face rarely changes. Add to that he was former KGB and it raised the hair on the back of my neck.

Can remember VP Cheney in the early 90's saying that he would never trust the Russians. Guess I was always on that side of the fence.

The other week Putin stopped some United States reps who go on their bases to verify their disarmament of nukes from entering the Russian bases.

Like you, I hoped for the best! Would say you are right --Putin blew it bigtime.
320 posted on 04/12/2003 7:22:45 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US)
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