Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Looters Ransack Baghdad's Antiquities Museum
Reuters ^ | April 12, 2003 | Hassan Hafidh

Posted on 04/12/2003 7:05:07 AM PDT by kalt

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Looters have sacked Baghdad's antiquities museum, plundering treasures dating back thousands of years to the dawn of civilization in Mesopotamia, museum staff said on Saturday.

They blamed U.S. troops for not protecting the treasures.

Surveying the littered glass wreckage of display cases and pottery shards at the Iraqi National Museum on Saturday, deputy director Nabhal Amin wept and told Reuters: "They have looted or destroyed 170,000 items of antiquity dating back thousands of years...They were worth billions of dollars."

She blamed U.S. troops, who have controlled Baghdad since the collapse of President Saddam Hussein's rule on Wednesday, for failing to heed appeals from museum staff to protect it from looters who moved in to the building on Friday.

"The Americans were supposed to protect the museum. If they had just one tank and two soldiers nothing like this would have happened," she said. "I hold the American troops responsible for what happened to this museum."

The looters broke into rooms that were built like bank vaults with huge steel doors. The museum grounds were full of smashed doors, windows and littered with office paperwork and books.

"We know people are hungry but what are they going to do with these antiquities," said Muhsen Kadhim, a museum guard for the last 30 years but who said he was overwhelmed by the number of looters.

"As soon as I saw the American troops near the museum, I asked them to protect it but the second day looters came and robbed or destroyed all the antiquities," he said.

ARMED GUARDS

Amin told four of the museum guards to carry guns and protect what remained.

Some of the museum's artifacts had been moved into storage to avoid a repeat of damage to other antiquities during the 1991 Gulf War.

It houses items from ancient Babylon and Nineveh, Sumerian statues, Assyrian reliefs and 5,000-year-old tablets bearing some of the earliest known writing. There are also gold and silver helmets and cups from the Ur cemetery.

The museum was only opened to the public six months ago after shutting down at the beginning of the 1991 Gulf War. It survived air strikes on Baghdad in 1991 and again was almost unscathed by attacks on the capital by U.S.-led forces.

Iraq, a cradle of civilization long before the empires of Egypt, Greece or Rome, was home to dynasties that created agriculture and writing and built the cities of Nineveh, Nimrud and Babylon -- site of Nebuchadnezzar's Hanging Gardens.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: antiquities; fallofbaghdad; iraq; iraqifreedom; looters; looting; museum
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 421-431 next last
To: ex-Texan
>>I beg to differ. Most likely the raid was carried out by Saddam's black shirted thugs disguised as "angry citizens." <<

I agree with your assessment. I recall reading somewhere that Saddam would snicker and deride the West's obsession with protecting the icons and structures of Iraq's past, which, to his mind, we held to be more valuable than human life.

Destroying those things he believes his enemies hold dear, (including Iraq's oil wells), is a way for the vanquished little man to lash out - kind of like a morbid, adolescent temper tantrum.
risa
101 posted on 04/12/2003 9:43:21 AM PDT by Risa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Ditter
Notice the highpoints of the article. It was only opened to the Public six months ago. Lotsa stuff is stored in vaults.

I'll bet the stuff in the Museum were copies and/or forgeries. And what were the Museum Guards doing???sipping tea??

102 posted on 04/12/2003 9:45:49 AM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: kalt
"They have looted or destroyed 170,000 items of antiquity dating back thousands of years...They were worth billions of dollars

Can we say "Insurance Fraud" ? What do you bet this stuff is insured by LLoyds or something ?

103 posted on 04/12/2003 9:48:32 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mass55th
but there were things she could have done prior to the war to ensure that the antiquities were protected. They could have been moved out of the country for safekeeping. She could have requested more guards; some with weapons.

Good grief. from whom was she to have gotten the permission and funding to pack up and move antiquities out of the country? - Her cooperative former regime? Fine... See every discontent who said unkind things right now as the enemy. I see them as just one of the things we are going to have to deal with. We can be mature, and through our actions overall hope that the Iraqis who are not immediately contented eventually see us as benevolent, or we can call her scum because she isn't an instant fan of this invasion or its immediate impact on her. Would it help her gain perspective to be called scum by us? Or would it help more for us to keep our heads and not overreact to every emotion that is not supportive?

104 posted on 04/12/2003 9:52:07 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Not all those who wander are lost.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 99 | View Replies]

To: Nick Danger
Official response of the Democratic National Party:

Blame it ALL on Bush.

105 posted on 04/12/2003 9:53:49 AM PDT by Happy2BMe (HOLLYWOOD:Ask not what U can do for your country, ask what U can do for Iraq!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Theresa
"All very reasonable to be sure. But the people who are against the war and Bush are going to run with this. Imagine if there were headlines that said. "Troops stand guard at Museum, irreplaceable artifacts in safe hands." After all the trouble we've gone to win hearts and minds we should have thought of this."

Are you for real? What paper in the Middle East would have printed a headline like that? Had our troops gone there and protected their antiquities as you would have liked them to do, do you really think that it would have made a big difference? It probably never would have made the paper because it would have been something positive, and God forbid they should give the U.S. credit for doing anything right. You're dreaming if you think that scenario would have played out the way you cooked it up in your mind.

Let's say some of our troops had been guarding the museum, and an American soldier had to open fire to keep people from entering. How do you think that would have played out in the Arab papers? Not very well I'd say and you're dreaming again if you think it would. It wasn't Americans who looted the museum afterall, it was Iraqis. They stole their own heritage, so it appears they didn't think much of it to begin with.

U.S. troops were and still are engaged in fighting off various hardliners. You have no idea where this museum is situated, nor the condition of the neighborhood. I'm sorry, but I can't agree with you that this was a priority for the United States. The real priority for the troops was and still is, cleansing Baghdad of Saddam's followers while trying to stay alive. I can't believe that you'd put a lousy museum ahead of the safety of our troops. Tell me it ain't so.

106 posted on 04/12/2003 10:00:40 AM PDT by mass55th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Theresa
I am. This is terrible. We should have had people there guarding it. This was a USA screw up. And I AM mad about it.

Get over it. Museums have dead history in them. I am more concerned about the living troops still in firefights and still getting killed in Iraq. Iraq's future is much more important than its past.

Without our troops Iraq would still be living in its Saddam induced misery. This museum has only been opened for the past six months, having been closed since 1991. Many of the treasures of Iraq are now in museums in London, Paris and Pennsylvania. I think the looting started before the war did. The lady is crying crocodile tears whether you are or not.

107 posted on 04/12/2003 10:03:59 AM PDT by Lauratealeaf (Iraqis say, Good, Very Good, Bush Good!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 45 | View Replies]

To: VRWC_minion
Insurance fraud. That's a good one. Why isn't she blaming Lloyds for not protecting her goods? The US gets bad mouthed about being the world police, although we didn't ask for the position, but then they gripe when we aren't policing.
108 posted on 04/12/2003 10:04:02 AM PDT by mtbopfuyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: kalt
I can't help but wonder if a large part of these looters aren't the old regime in plain clothes, destroying evidense and gathering a nestegg.
109 posted on 04/12/2003 10:04:38 AM PDT by fella
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mass55th
Why is anyone listening to this woman, much less believing her? Any head of an important museum was undoubtedly a supporter of Saddam. She is probably covering for the real looters who emptied the place long ago. Probably covering for herself as well. She's as believeable as Baghdad Bob.
110 posted on 04/12/2003 10:07:40 AM PDT by ladyjane
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: VRWC_minion
Can we say "Insurance Fraud" ? What do you bet this stuff is insured by LLoyds or something ?

Can we hope it was a French insurance firm?

111 posted on 04/12/2003 10:10:42 AM PDT by Drango (Two wrongs don't make a right...but three lefts do!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 103 | View Replies]

To: ladyjane
" Any head of an important museum was undoubtedly a supporter of Saddam."

Exactly! How did she get and keep her job?

112 posted on 04/12/2003 10:11:40 AM PDT by mass55th
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 110 | View Replies]

To: Theresa
>>Come to think of it I am getting impatient for the US to get going on stopping the looting. It's starting to make us look bad that we are not doing anything.<<

My opinion is that we should not be quick to judge the way the coalition forces are handling the circumstances. We have no way of knowing what really happened, and can hardly trust the media.

Saddam may be behind this. By destroying Iraqi National Treasure, Saddam would hope to incite around the world the very sentiments you express. To Saddam, material signs of Iraq's history were of no value beyond the leverage he could get by threatening their destruction.

I trust the coalition forces will install law and order with success as soon as they have ferreted out the remaining pockets of Saddam's regime. They have gotten us this far, and I think we shouldn't doubt them now, especially in response to the very stuff Saddam would use to rile up our emotions.

risa
113 posted on 04/12/2003 10:11:51 AM PDT by Risa
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 49 | View Replies]

To: Theresa
Also they can do sting operations pretending to want to buy it on the black market and then nab the sellers.

I just heard on local (ABC) radio news that some of the recently looted items are already listed on Ebay.

114 posted on 04/12/2003 10:12:50 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 50 | View Replies]

To: fella
I can't help but wonder if a large part of these looters aren't the old regime in plain clothes, destroying evidense and gathering a nestegg.

It's not as if there hasn't been a lot of actual looting going on. I don't find the Museum director's account hard to believe. I don't find your alternative account hard to believe either, but if I had to guess which is the truth I'd go with the simplest explanation.

(And obviously, whatever happened, agreeing with her assessment of blame is another matter altogether.)

115 posted on 04/12/2003 10:29:35 AM PDT by kalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 109 | View Replies]

To: Physicist
Unfortunate? It's a damned tragedy. Securing that site should have been one of our very top priorities. Mesopotamian antiquities will be the top moneymaker for Iraq, after oil. Many of the oil fields we risked lives to protect were far less important and valuable than this.

I'm with you on this. This isn't going to make me question the whole plan, but on this detail we screwed up and ought to be looking into ways to recover the loot.

116 posted on 04/12/2003 10:32:52 AM PDT by MattAMiller (Iraq was liberated in my name, how about yours?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Theresa
This is a ugly blot on an otherwise brilliant campaign.

Perhaps, though, I'm glad we weren't guilty of bombing the museum.

I'm wondering what day and hour the perps broke into the "vault-like" museum and what skirmishes their co-perps might have been instigated at the same hour to distract the coalition troops.

Small town bank robbers have been known to set off false fire alarms in order to distract officers away from the "held-up" bank.

It might take at least a little while to determine how much of a blot our record deserves, how much of a blot the museum deserves, and how much of a blot the perps deserve.

117 posted on 04/12/2003 11:13:36 AM PDT by syriacus (The Palestine Hotel sniper probably used a silencer, if he had ANY brains.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 67 | View Replies]

To: All
I can-not believe that we did-not PROTECT this SUPER, Super
inportant site, . Items destroyed ,or looted dates back 10,500 ++ BC. This is sad ! . This should of been protected !! The war is lost now.. People will never forgive
our troops for letting the key of our past be destroyed !
118 posted on 04/12/2003 11:14:37 AM PDT by Orlando
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 116 | View Replies]

To: kalt
Amin told four of the museum guards to carry guns and protect what remained.

Iraq needs to begin governing itself. They can start by recovering the stolen items and prosecuting the thieves. Many of the looters are professional.

119 posted on 04/12/2003 11:19:43 AM PDT by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kalt
I guess we should have told Sadam to put all of the antiques down in the bunkers before we kicked his ASS.
120 posted on 04/12/2003 11:21:55 AM PDT by jetson
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 81-100101-120121-140 ... 421-431 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson