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Forget about Saddam; it's Robbins and Sarandon we must fight
The Seattle Times ^ | 4/11/03 | Steve Kelly

Posted on 04/11/2003 8:12:58 AM PDT by Seattle

The juxtaposition would be funny if it weren't so serious.

Scenes of joy in Baghdad were on the front pages of every newspaper in the country yesterday.

Iraq, a very literate country, was celebrating in the streets. The population was filled with the hope that maybe, just maybe, it could celebrate the freedoms that have been denied it for a generation.

Freedoms like the freedom of speech.

Meanwhile, on this nation's sports pages yesterday, baseball's Hall of Fame president, Dale Petroskey, was declaring that, because of the politics of actors Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins, the Hall was canceling its planned celebration of the 15th anniversary of the release of the baseball movie "Bull Durham."

Petroskey, who just happens to be a former assistant White House press secretary under Ronald Reagan, said in a letter to Sarandon and Robbins: "We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important — and sensitive — time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position, which ultimately could put our troops in even more danger."

The decision is all bull and no Durham.

Petroskey said he didn't want Robbins politicizing the event, then he politicized it.

McCarthyism lives.

Does Petroskey think Iraqi soldiers were hunkered in their bunkers outside Basra telling each other, "Sarandon and Robbins are against this war. We must fight on."?

There is a saying that truth is the first casualty of war. Apparently, people like Petroskey believe free speech is the second casualty.

Imagine if Petroskey were the NBA commissioner. Dallas' Steve Nash, who has voiced his sensitive disagreements with the war, probably would be banned from the playoffs.

And Golden State's Adonal Foyal, maybe the smartest man in the NBA, would be suspended for having the audacity to criticize the U.S. government.

Aren't the freedoms Sarandon and Robbins exercise part of what the United States says it is trying to bring to Iraq?

If John Rocker still can pitch in the big leagues — I don't know if he can pitch anymore, but he certainly now has the right to try with Tampa Bay — then can't we celebrate the best baseball movie ever made, even if some find the politics of two of its stars offensive?

Petroskey's Hall is full of miscreants. If he saw the movie "Cobb," he might be inclined to pull down the bust of Ty Cobb the way that U.S. tank pulled down the statue of Saddam Hussein on Wednesday.

If Cobb is in the Hall of Fame, there should be room for Bull Durham.

The movie is such a perfect portrayal of life in baseball's bush leagues. Kevin Costner is the perfect embittered baseball lifer. Robbins' Nuke LaLoosh is like every wild prodigy who ever came into the game.

It's a smart movie that takes some sharp shots at the culture of sports.

It deserves this celebration. We deserve to see its stars and writer-director Ron Shelton and hear them talk about this movie 15 years later.

But Petroskey, a 21st-century Joe McCarthy (the former senator, not the former manager), has decided the beliefs of some of its stars are too volatile for the Hall.

This was supposed to be the celebration of a movie. It was about the art, not the politics, of the artists.

Maybe Petroskey never saw the movie. Maybe he was misinformed and was told that LaLoosh was named Weapons of Mass Destruction LaLoosh.

While Iraqis cautiously leave their houses and come back into the streets, believing maybe the worst of the war is over, Petroskey is fighting his own war against dissent. Maybe he should poll all living Hall of Fame members. Are they for or against this war? Are they Republicans or Democrats?

Maybe he should make all of them sign a loyalty oath.

"As an institution we stand behind our president and our troops," he said in his letter to Robbins and Sarandon.

So as they celebrate the hope of freedom in Baghdad, Dale Petroskey denies it in Cooperstown. It seems you're either with Petroskey or against him. And if you're against him, the doors to the Hall will be slammed in your face.

Steve Kelley: 206-464-2176 or skelley@seattletimes.com


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: celebrity; crybabies; hollywierd; hollywood; hollywoodenemyofusa; holyywood; robbins; sarandon; sedition; whiner
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To: jim35
All opinions, no matter how poorly thought out, are allowed on this site.

While I agree with the posters on this thread in regards to Peterosky having the right to do anything he wants (and I have written a letter to Mr. Kelly stating such.) I must disagree that all opinions are allowed on this site.

They are not.

123 posted on 04/11/2003 9:56:20 AM PDT by Jael
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To: Jael
And it did wonders for Toby Keith. He's on top now . . .

Hey, Peter Jennings, "How d'ya like him now?"

124 posted on 04/11/2003 9:57:18 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Joe Whitey
What's wrong with division? Why is that such a problem? We want to be divided from some people. We do not share their morals (lack of, and they do not share our dreams and goals.

And Mr. Petrosky has every right to do what ever is best for his business.

If it did divide anything, it left the scant percent of wankers on the side.

Wankers don't deserve free forums to express their views.
Let them buy their own.
126 posted on 04/11/2003 10:00:43 AM PDT by Jael
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To: sydbas
"And what happened to John Rocker when he exercised his free speech rights?"

John Rocker was just an idiot.
128 posted on 04/11/2003 10:02:05 AM PDT by optik_b
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To: Catphish
Shove it up down your piehole! These folks are at least seditious.
129 posted on 04/11/2003 10:02:27 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: Joe Whitey
Reality check for you dude.

Peter Jennings lied about Toby Keith when he booted him.

Petrosky hasn't lied about anyone. Statements like Sarandon's and Robbin's are bad for moral for our troops and are great for bucking up the enemy.

That isn't rocket science.

He didn't lie.

Also, you might not agree with his opinion, but that doesn't make his opinion wrong.
130 posted on 04/11/2003 10:04:36 AM PDT by Jael
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To: Joe Whitey
No one was not going to go the HOF weekend just because Robbins and Sarandon were there.

That wasn't their concern. The bigger issue is how many people won't show up at the Hall of Fame next weekend, the following weekend, the one after that, etc.

I can't think of anyone whose public anti-war statements have been a good career move. You can be sure that Lipton is wishing they had never heard of the Dixie Chicks right now.

131 posted on 04/11/2003 10:04:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: Joe Whitey
It is a business decision. Look at all the great free publicity he is getting from this. And all the controversy he is avoiding.

132 posted on 04/11/2003 10:07:11 AM PDT by Jael
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To: Joe Whitey
"We believe your very public criticism of President Bush at this important -- and sensitive -- time in our nation's history helps undermine the U.S. position, which ultimately could put our troops in even more danger."

Joe Whitey wrote: Absurd, insane or a lie? You be the judge.

I judge it to be accurate.

You be the judge ...

134 posted on 04/11/2003 10:10:31 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Seattle
Left-ward Spin Warning!!!!

Petroskey said he didn't want Robbins politicizing the event, then he politicized it.

How can one politicize an event that did not take place?

135 posted on 04/11/2003 10:11:40 AM PDT by Last Visible Dog
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To: Seattle
these people are a complete waste of time
137 posted on 04/11/2003 10:13:21 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: Joe Whitey
If anyone did make such a connection, then they are a moron.

And if anyone assumes that a capricious consumer base will act in a rational, intelligent manner, then he is a moron, too.

Sheryl Crow's career isn't hurting too bad for one.

Her career has been in decline for a while. If she never took a public anti-war position, you never would have heard her name mentioned more than once in any given month.

I doubt it. They made millions and will continue to. No one will remember in a year.

When was the last time Alec Baldwin got a leading role in a movie?

138 posted on 04/11/2003 10:15:59 AM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: goodnesswins
Here's what I wrote:

Mr. Kelly,

Regarding your column discussing the right to free speech of Hollywood actors Sarandon and Robbins, kindly get a clue.

The right of free speech is a protection guarenteed from GOVERNMENT retribution. There is nothing in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights protecting people from the consequences of their spoken opinions with PRIVATE CITIZENS and their organizations.

People pay those kind of consequences every day. I'm sure that you would agree that certain sports figures who have expressed hate speech against African-Americans deserved such consequences. What is the difference here?

A private organization disagreed with Sarandon and Robbins and decided not to reward them with a celebration. End of story.

IF the government punishes Ms. Sarandon and Mr. Robbins for what they said, which of course won't happen, then you would have cause to scream from the rooftops. Until then, too bad, so sad.

Think it will change his mind? Yeah, me neither.
140 posted on 04/11/2003 10:18:47 AM PDT by ODC-GIRL (Proudly serving our Homeland Defense)
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