Oil industry suppressed plans for 200-mpg car

TimesOnline ^ | March 31, 2003 | Simon de Bruxelles

[Nov3]

OK conspiracy freaks here it is again. A thermodynamic analysis of the Otto cycle says this is impossible but every time I see this come up it piques my attention!

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[dagar]

Yeah, this is the same type of moronic junk-science that says depleted uranium is radioactive. Sure it is, in multi-tonne quantities... morons, all of them.

[Poohbah]

OK conspiracy freaks here it is again. A thermodynamic analysis of the Otto cycle says this is impossible but every time I see this come up it piques my attention!

And here's why no one picked up on it:

Engineers who have tried in the past to build a carburettor using Pogue’s theories have found the results less than satisfactory. Charles Friend, of Canada’s National Research Council, told Marketplace, a consumer affairs programme: “You can get fantastic mileage if you’re prepared to de-rate the vehicle to a point where, for example, it might take you ten minutes to accelerate from 0 to 30 miles an hour.”

[Trailerpark Badass]

Engineers who have tried in the past to build a carburettor using Pogue’s theories have found the results less than satisfactory. Charles Friend, of Canada’s National Research Council, told Marketplace, a consumer affairs programme: “You can get fantastic mileage if you’re prepared to de-rate the vehicle to a point where, for example, it might take you ten minutes to accelerate from 0 to 30 miles an hour.”

Odd how this paragraph is saved till the end, after all the conspiracy stuff.

[Trailerpark Badass]

Doh!

[dead]

I found plans for an anti-gravity device in my grandfather's underwear drawer after he passed away. I built it in my backyard and it worked perfectly.

Unfortunately, I left the plans on top of the device and watched them both float off.

[dep]

yeah. in the same toolbox was the cure for cancer suppressed by the american cancer society.

dep

[Right Wing Professor]

Charles Nelson P{ogue took credit for the invention, but it was actually his wife who found the carburettor in the wrckage of a crashed alien spaceship. And it requires a special brand of gasoline, refined only when the moon is full, and the car containing the device must always be parked in a direction facing Roswell, NM.

Other than that, the article is entirely accurate, or so the voices being beamed into my head tell me. I just wish they'd shut up for a while so I could sleep.

[Boston Capitalist]

Well, it would be a distator to car makers if 1. It was cheaper to operate their product and more people could afford it and those who alread could afford it could do so at a higher price and 2. The enviornmentalist rationale for a substantial portion of auto industry regulation were eliminiated. Wouldn't it?

[RichardW]

Silly

[_Jim]

revolutionary carburettor, known as the Winnipeg

A day late and a dollar short - we've moved onto fuel injection coupled with superchargers and turbochargers and not to mention VAST improvements in diesel technology even ...

[ladtx]

Only problem with this car is that you have to wear a tinfoil hat when you drive it.

[Uncle George]

If such a device was possible to build "Smokey Yunick" would have built it before his death.

[Atlas Sneezed]

Mr Davies has had the patent number on the plans authenticated, proving that they are genuine documents.

If there is a patent number, then there is a patent. And patents are public documents. Thus, the day that patent issued, is was no longer a supressible secret. And the day that patent expired (in the 40s or 50s) it was public domain for anyone to implement.

Which all suggests quite compellingly that the whole thing is a bunch of hooey. Any decent journalist would inquire as to what the patent number is.

[HuntsvilleTxVeteran]

http://www.starrotor.com/indexflash.htm


StarRotor Engine Properties
(place your mouse on green text for more information)


High efficiency (44%-64%)

Low Pollution
Low Cost
Low Maintenance

Long Life
High Power Density
Negligible Vibration
Multi-fuel



The StarRotor engine uses the Brayton cycle, the same thermodynamic cycle employed by jet engines. Ambient air is compressed to about 6 atm, and then is preheated by a heat exchanger. The preheated compressed air is further heated by combusting fuel. The hot, high-pressure gas expands, thereby doing work. In the heat exchanger, thermal energy is recovered from the exhaust gases. The compressor and expander use a gerotor, a positive-displacement device that can process the large volumes of gas required by Brayton cycle engines.

[happydogdesign]

If cars got as much mileage as this old urban legend, they would produce 200 gallons of gasoline per mile driven.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/business/carburetor.php

[SubSailor]

Well, it would be a distator

Is a distator kinda like a yam?

[John123]

I heard about that! It was a low maintance car too. All you had to do was replace the rubber bands when they break. :)