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Calif. Assembly bills to ban dove hunting and criminalize use of dogs when hunting mammals
Calif. DFG ^
| March 26, 2003
Posted on 04/09/2003 11:16:39 AM PDT by ZGuy
AB 1190, authored by Assembly Member Joe Nation from Marin County, would prohibit dove hunting in California.
AB 342, authored by Assembly Member Paul Koretz from West Hollywood, would eliminate the use of dogs in hunting mammals.
Both bills are scheduled to be considered by the Assembly Committee on Water, Parks, and Wildlife Committee on April 8, 2003.
Last week, the California Fish and Game Commission sent letters of opposition to the authors of Assembly Bills 1190 and 342. Both letters encouraged the Legislature to defer policy decisions regarding the take and the method of take of game species to the Commission.
The Commission has been actively involved in the management and wise use of California 's fish and wildlife resources since 1870, and maintains a thorough game species management process pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA).
"We believe the Commission has done an exceptional job in both protecting California's natural resources and providing our residents with hunting and fishing opportunities," said Commission President Michael Flores, who signed both letters. "We do not see the need to move outside of our existing processes at this point."
The Commission is regularly provided with the most current and relevant information regarding game species' population, health and habitat from the Department of Fish and Game and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service. The Commission takes this information into account before adopting hunting regulations, including the length of hunting seasons, bag limits and method of take.
In addition, all game species are managed through a rigorous and thorough environmental review pursuant to the California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA). This review has consistently determined that the use of dogs is not detrimental to game mammals and that dove hunting does not negatively impact the dove population or the overall health of the species.
The Constitution of the State of California, Article IV, Section 20, provides for the establishment of the Commission and authorizes it to exert necessary powers relating to the protection and propagation of fish and game.
Sections 207 and 208 of the Fish and Game Code gives the Commission the authority to prescribe the take of game mammals, furbearing mammals and resident game birds in California. As part of this authority, the Commission may establish the length of hunting seasons, the bag possession limits, and method of take.
Contact: Robert Treanor, Fish and Game Commission, (916) 653-4899
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Committee members and contact information is available at The California State Assembly Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife Website
TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: enviralists
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I caught this a bit late, but wanted to bring it up on our radar. I have not been able to determine the outcomes of these bills in the Commission meetings.
Anyone having further information, please post it.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:16:39 AM PDT
by
ZGuy
To: All
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:19:56 AM PDT
by
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To: ZGuy
To all the hunters out there in California that never worried : After they take your dogs, they will come for your shotguns.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:22:46 AM PDT
by
Centurion2000
(We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
To: ZGuy
Bunnies and squirrels must be the only mammals that are still legal to hunt with dogs in Kalifornia...birds will be next. Time to train cats to retrieve.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:24:18 AM PDT
by
gundog
To: ZGuy
The next time or six a mountain lion carries away a small child, tell the mama you can't track the cat with dogs due to these laws.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:34:19 AM PDT
by
RicocheT
Comment #6 Removed by Moderator
To: ZGuy
Darn, I was almost done training my dog for the next big whale hunt.
To: ZGuy; Carry_Okie; diotima; Bob J
Keep me posted please.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:41:04 AM PDT
by
sauropod
(I'm a man... But I can change... If I have to.... I guess...................)
To: ZGuy
Sorry about no breaks and paragraphs. Still trying to figure out posting here - California Anti-Hunting Bill Stopped by Sportsmen (Columbus) Hundreds of sportsmen turned out today at the California Capitol Building and derailed a bill that would ban hunting with hounds. The bill was defeated in an Assembly Committee by a vote of ten to four. Tony Celebrezze, director of field services for the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance, testified at the hearing for the bill in Sacramento. He told the Assembly Committee on Water, Parks and Wildlife that Assembly Bill 342 was unnecessary and would cost California taxpayers millions of dollars in lost hunting revenue. Assemblyman Paul Koretz (D-Los Angeles) introduced the measure. Over 500 sportsmen turned out in a show of opposition to Koretzs bill. In our 25 years of fighting for sportsmens rights, I cannot recall a larger turnout by sportsmen on a legislative matter, said Rick Story, senior vice president for the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance. The strong show of support will send a message to the California Assembly, and the Senate, that California hunters are a political force not to be taken lightly. Other witnesses in opposition to AB 342 were Dennis Foster, executive director of the Masters of Foxhounds Association of America, Steve Moreno from the National Wild Turkey Federation and representatives from the California Houndsmen for Conservation and other local sportsmens groups. Hunters spend more than $530 million each year in California. This bill would have put those dollars at risk for no reason, said Celebrezze. The committee showed common sense in stopping this bad bill. The bill originally banned all hunting with hounds. A storm of sportsmens contacts to legislators caused Koretz to amend AB 342 to prohibit only the pursuit and taking of black bear and bobcat with hounds. The tactic was merely an effort to placate sportsmens strong opposition to the bill. The U.S. Sportsmens Alliance, through its Field Services Department and its California lobbyist, worked with key national and local sportsmens groups to defeat the measure. The National Wild Turkey Federation, Masters of Foxhounds Association of America, the California Houndsmen for Conservation, and the California Waterfowl Association are among the organizations that helped raise awareness, motivate hunters to take action, and raise funds to defeat the bill. This was the second time in as many weeks that anti-hunters were defeated by sportsmen-activists in California. The U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and its partners also coordinated a successful effort to defeat AB 1190, which sought to ban dove hunting. It was pulled from the committee agenda last week at the request of its sponsor. The U.S. Sportsmens Alliance protects the rights of hunters, anglers and trappers nationally in the courts, legislatures, at the ballot, in Congress and through public education programs. For more information about the U.S. Sportsmens Alliance and its work, call (614) 888-4868 or visit its website, www.ussportsmen.org .
To: Centurion2000
After they take your dogs, they will come for your shotguns. Absolutely. This is from the progressive leader in gun control, the same state that brought you the stupid 15 day waiting period.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:44:40 AM PDT
by
zingzang
To: ZGuy
Typical. Our state is going down the drain financially and these two dipsticks (Nation is my Assemblyman, unfortunately) are wasting time on trivial bills to keep their party's extreme Left happy.
To: sergeantdave
Sergeantdave : Good job!
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:48:30 AM PDT
by
ZGuy
To: ZGuy
What the hell are they doing up in Sacramento?
Have they forgetten about the BUDGET, ENERGY CRISIS, and the WATER CRISIS?
Democrats...grrrrrrr!
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:49:55 AM PDT
by
Weimdog
To: ZGuy
I'm OK with this just as long as a citizen can still use his dog to track CA assemblymen...;^)
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:50:24 AM PDT
by
AngryJawa
(Grateful for Heroes)
To: ZGuy
I see no opposition to the dove issue. My wife is a master falconer. She had to take hunter's safety classes (firearms oriented) to get a hunting license. She is hunting with a bird of prey. The birds of prey don't bother to read the hunting regulations. They go for available food. If dove hunting is outlawed, how do you reconcile a bird of prey fetching food?
We have relocated from San Diego to Idaho now. Idaho requires a hunting license, but no firearms on permitted when hunting with a bird of prey. That's a dicey proposition sometimes. The open areas for hunting also come with black bears and mountain lions around Pocatello.
The California legislature shows utter stupidity again. I'm so glad I left.
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posted on
04/09/2003 11:57:00 AM PDT
by
Myrddin
To: Toddsterpatriot
Darn, I was almost done training my dog for the next big whale hunt. Must be the puppy chow...retrieving a whale..
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posted on
04/09/2003 12:00:24 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: ZGuy
Well at least Iraq is free....
wonder if Calif is next?
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posted on
04/09/2003 12:01:30 PM PDT
by
joesnuffy
(Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
To: ZGuy
The California lawnuts strike again!
To: *Enviralists
To: ZGuy
and criminalize use of dogs when hunting mammals Thank goodness I don't live in California. In my locale, liberals are not considered mammals, there's no bag limit, and they are never out of season.
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posted on
04/09/2003 12:16:06 PM PDT
by
meadsjn
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