***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[Consort]

I swear, sometimes I think they need a water cannon to break up the fights!

We need more fights....with more of us involved.

[Cboldt]

same with the -stans, every week there's a new -stan coming out

I'm not real big on "-stan" history, but the area is so sparsely populated (due to lack of resources) that I suspect the number of -stan countries hasn't changed for a few generations. Africa and the Balkans are a different story.

[najida]

Thanks....I have my contacts out...I can see most things, but not the print at the bottom of the TV screen.

[alnick]

In some ways, that picture disturbs me, I know it's his happiness, but it just looks alittle creepy.

In more ways than one. The first time that I saw it, I thought that the kisser was Daschle. (shudder)

[umbagi]

...Michael Reagan...

Kept bringing up memories of the Berlin Wall coming down.

For those of us who remember sitting there awestruck, with tears in our eyes, watching that and thanking God for having given the world President Reagan: Could we have taken it, with Free Republic and BerlinCams?

My heroes have always been cowboys!

[oceanview]

You know the exact date, wow, that's pretty good.

[Miss Marple]

Please read my reply number 5893!! Yes he DID try to claim it, and this is a DNC strategy if ever I saw one!

[Ragtime Cowgirl]

#5865 #5685....see, I'm loopy!

(still able to kick Dem. clymer, so don't try it, Hillary!)

(^;

[alnick]

"He's vomiting on the evil infidel aggressor king" - Baghdad Bob

Oh Baghdad Bob is heading for Freeper Legendom.

[babaloo]

I hope this has put an end to the term "Cowboy" being used in a perjorative manner.

[GOPyouth]

Heh heh, b/c I have Ollie's book right here opened up. :)

[Wyatt's Torch]

Good news is, 15% fewer people were watching Dan Blather continue to make and idiot of himself :-)

[ztiworoh]

I just remember having to memorize all the countries in asia and identify them on a map for a test in like 8th grade and the -stans were the hardest part, so many of them are obscure and look the same to me. I just have an inherent hatred for convoluted geography...

[melodie]

count me in for loopy too i called you prarie in that post..lol

[TomGuy]

Part of the delay in Afghanistan after 9-11 was so the weaponry (bombs) could be replenished from the Clinton era--where they were used but not replenished.

[Fledermaus]

The fact military spending on certain things are pet projects for Congressmen, including Dems, some survived. Rummy is changing a lot of that.

And as I've said, I'd like to see some reports on how much of this was accomplished since Bush took office and he and Rummy started changing priorities.

This success belongs to them. The equipment might still be from Clinton's years, but the strategy isn't. I don't think the Spec Ops (Delta Force, Green Berets, Navy Seals, CIA) would have this much leeway and ability to act. Ninety percent of the strikes on Baghdad, under Clintoon, would have been polled, talked about for hours, and made through political decisions only.

This is a known fact. The authour of a new book by Patterson, who carried the nuke football from 1996-1998, says nothing was done in the Clinton years that wasn't talked to death. He says they missed a two-hour window of opportunity to take out Osama due to polling and needless political discussion.

And the fact they couldn't find ol Billy once when he needed to turn a key!

[Cboldt]

'nother paragraph from Hitchens:

So I'm glad to extend the hand of friendship to my former antagonists and to begin the long healing process. Perhaps one might start by meeting another of their demands and lifting the sanctions? Now the inspectors are well and truly in, there's no further need for an embargo. I noticed that Kofi Annan this week announced that the Iraqi people should be the ones to decide their own government and future. I don't mind that he never said this before: It's enough that he says it now.

[oceanview]

Now General Vallely is mentioning that resort in Syria! What is going on here, didn't we have the roads to Syria closed off?

[johnb838]

Vallely just said that Lata-KIA is on the cote d'azur... in Syria?

[Wyatt's Torch]

Oh Baghdad Bob is heading for Freeper Legendom.

Seriesly.......;-)