***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
BBC News 24 (Real - 56)
BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
CBC RadioOne - Toronto (QT)
CN8 Philadelphia (Real)
CNN+ (Spain) (WMV)
CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
CNN via KGW/Portland (Real - mostly down)
DW-TV Berlin (Real - German/English)
IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
IraqiTV (WMV - #2)
IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[reformed_democrat]

Oh heck. That's easy. Its because:

these people are more concerned about THEMSELVES

than anything, anyone, or any outcome we can imagine. The fact that we don't share their unabashed devotion to themselves is a matter of great wonderment to them.

Now, give me a tough one.
:)

[Slip18]

I've got a website for photos of troops if you would like it. I just got it today. There are a lot of Orange County soldiers in the site.

[rolling_stone]

no they didn't even win the boobie prize..

[Dolphy]

Batchelor and Alexander are almost the Art Bell of the political scene

I miss Art Bell, his replacement is almost never credible, Art bordered on credibility some of the time:)

[MEG33]

I never thought you blamed the military.I know my anger is directed at the Targeting the Press statements and the lack of taking responsibility for their choices.

[Daniel Ramsey]

I can just imagine when Gregg Kelly checks in his luggage at the airport on his way home when this is all over and is asked what he has to declare, "Just a toilet"


a solid gold throne...LOL

[Mrs.Liberty]

PC...can you post that photo again, please? And, is that sniper's nest in the same general area as this hotel? Do you mean the sniper's nest was at the hotel>

Someone posted on a different thread...how could these reporters know if there was or was not firing coming from the hotel...there was likely lots of intermittant gunfire from all around, how can they be so positive there was none coming from the hotel?

[Shermy]

[null and void]

Heavy young male foot traffic in the circle again.

With backpacks.

Satchel charges for the journalists?

[umbagi]

I finally had to send them another email (after Shep implied he wanted us to stop):

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Shep:

None of the patriotic Fox fans I know are saying "Screw those journalists."

We're all sad they were hit. We honor their commitment to bring us the news. We know the ones in the Palestinian Hotel have "minders."

What we're saying is, "It's not the biggest story of the war!"

You've told us about it. Plenty of times. Now move on and get back to being the Fox News Channel we've made number one in cable news. Those journalists are not bigger news than the latest attempt on Saddam, or the last brave Marine killed in combat. Do you know his or her name? Have you told us fifty times, or a hundred?

Come on, guys -- you're doing a great job. But the brave journalists bringing us the story are not the story itself, even when some of them get killed.

[GOPrincess]

My husband works on the C-17. (Administrative job, not on the production line.) We feel really good whenever we see it in action, knowing he's played a small part in putting it into service. Nice to know there's someone here with a relative flying on it :).

[Slip18]

I do hope we're running out of targets, but I sincerely doubt it. I mean, if the INSPECTORS couldn't find anything in 12 years, how are our troops going to find everything in three weeks?

[dogbyte12]

The media do believe they are the story.

I am tired of stories on how media members are doing, how they are operating, followed by the media criticism stories. As Howlin noted earlier, they are burying the Iraqi Children's Jail story because they need to use up the air time to discuss 3 media members losing their lives.

"Chicken" Rick Engle today used up his entire broadcast pretty much on the reporter story and calling the military liars.

I would love more analysis on the arab street, the jihadists entering Iraq, the post war plan for governance, what is going on in Jordan, and the West Bank...

Candlelight vigil is much more important though.

[thatdewd]

no they didn't even win the boobie prize..

And the audience loudly BOOED when their name came up.

[GOPrincess]

Would love a link to that website, thanks much :).

[GOPyouth]

Shep is discussing emails he's getting from people who are spouting off "they deserve to die" attitudes. Those emails are wrong and Shep is pointing that out. I have never doubted that the troops were fired upon. You may not have seen my post a minute ago before you sent this last post, but I said I don't blame the tank for firing back when they located where the sniper came from.

On that note, I don't think it's right for the press to bitch about that building getting hit. That's just as wrong, and as Shep and the DOD have pointed out, it's a war zone, and military officials are in that building.

But, we must not stray way from the entire context of that statement Shep made and why he made it.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

The woman next door was telling me that she too saw on TV when our troops first arrived in country, the Marines taking down the Iraqi flag on the guard shack. She just found out that the Marine who took down the flag is her cousin.

[Slip18]

Holy Moly! LOL!

[Sacajaweau]

What are these two huggies saying?? Are they thugs in civilian clothes? Me thinks so.

[spectr17]

Hold me Machmood. I told Abtar not to keep lighting those farts in his polyester pants but he insisted. The fool.