***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 21 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | April 9, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Operation Iraqi Freedom

This thread is dedicated to the brave men and women of the

 Armed Forces of the United States of America.

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"Wish You Were Here"

For all the free people that still protest.
You're welcome. We protect you and you are protected by the best.
Your voice is strong and loud,
but who will fight for you? No one standing in your crowd.
We are your fathers, brothers, and sons,
wearing the boots and carrying guns.
We are the ones that leave all we own,
to make sure your future is carved in stone.
We are the ones who fight and die,
We might not be able to save the world, Well, at least we try.
We walked the paths to where we are at
and we want no choice other than that.
so when you rally your group to complain,
take a look in the back of your brain.
In order for that flag you love to fly
wars must be fought and young men must die.
We came here to fight for the ones we hold dear.
If that's not respected, we would rather stay here.
So please stop yelling, put down your signs,
and pray for those behind enemy lines.
When the conflict is over and all is well,
be thankful that we chose to go through hell.

Corporal Joshua Miles and all the boys from 3rd Battalion 2nd Marines,
Kuwait 3/9/2003

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Links to the past threads

Day 1	Day 8	Day 15
Day 2	Day 9	Day 16
Day 3	Day 10	Day 17
Day 4	Day 11	Day 18
Day 5	Day 12	Day 19
Day 6	Day 13	Day 20
Day 7	Day 14

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Mhking's live cam links 

Live Video/Audio Feeds: (If you can't reach a feed by clicking on it, make sure to try copying the address, and pasting it in the appropriate browser -- WMV=Windows Media Player; Real=Real Player/RealOne; MP3=WinAmp/Audion/other streaming MP3 player; QT=QuickTime) FR: Final Update: Streaming Video/Audio Links (Includes info & HTML/Javascript code on how to create your own multi-feeds page)
"Mother Of All War Websites" (Additional links to live audio/video feeds)
VirtualTuner.com - Showdown in Iraq
WWI-TV Portal (WorldWide Internet-TV Portal Site)
Abu Dhabi TV (Real - Arabic)
BBC/Baghdad Cam(Real)
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BBC News 24 (Real - BB)
CablePulse 24 - Toronto (WMV)
CBS/Baghdad Cam (Real)
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CNN Baghdad Cam (WMV)
CNN Radio (WMV)
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IraqiTV (Real)
IraqiTV (WMV - #1)
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IraqiTV (WMV - #3)
ITN News Channel - London (Real - Audio Only)
MSNBC/NBC (WMV/Feeds page)
MSNBC (WMV - Audio Only - Headlines & Breaking News)
MSNBC Bagdad Cam (WMV)
N-TV Berlin (Real - In German Where Available)
NTV Baghdad Cam (Real)
NWCN, Seattle/Portland (Real)
Reuters Feedroom (Real - Raw Video Feeds)
Sky News (56K - WMV/Copy/Paste)
Sky News (BB - WMV/Copy-Paste)
SNN6 Sarasota, FL (Real)
WSVN-TV/DT Miami (WMV - Fox Affiliate)

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Cboldt's Goody Bag

Baghdad City Maps

http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/baghdad_nima_2003.jpg <-- 1.6 Mb
http://www.stripes.com/02/dec02/baghdad.pdf <-- 440 Kb

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[MasonGal]

I was just telling my husband the very same thing--I don't know how he does it, either!

Some of these questions by these folks are unbelievable!!

[Catspaw]

Listen to Fox News' Greg Kelly. He's not impressed with the decor in Saddam's palaces, although he did sound envious of the guys in the better palace up the road from him.

[Kip Lange]

I doubt that sanctions work but that is another story.

Indeed, I agree, and indeed, it's a whole 'nother thread.

[blondee123]

It isn't so much that they are wanting things of value, but that they want symbolic representations--"I helped take Saddam down and I took ____ from him." It is no less symbolic than those who took pieces of the Berlin Wall when it came tumbling down. It is a symbol of liberation.

Heck, they just want something to put on EBAY!!! LOL

[TomGuy]

Watch for this:

In the video of the guy beating the picture of Saddam's face with his shoe, watch the heavyset guy with the white robe and red/white "towel". He makes a pretty suggestive gesture of what he'd like to do to Saddam. It's funny to watch.

[Cboldt]

IF the idiotic four (france, germany, russia, china) had STAYED WITH THE PROGRAM and enforced the sanctions, Saadumb would likely have been broken long, long ago.

In the long run, this is the best outcome. I prefer a useless UN -- not a big fan of central government, certainly not on a global scale.

FWIW, the idiotic four also queered chances at inspections, because they backed off the credible use of force. One cannot EVER back down from a credible threat of force, lest the threat lose credibility forever after.

[cajungirl]

AWWW,,it was it object des arte,,he is going to brighten up his living room with it, a present for his wife. Makes me want to cry, remembering the first tacky present my hubby gave to me. Martha Stewart needs to be sent to Iraq to do penance and spruce up the place.

[Hillarys Gate Cult]

I think that cabinet was an old fridge. It looked like he was dragging it upside down by the coils. Two or three fridges were taken away from that one place.

[Howlin]

That "sanctions did this" argument is going to be hard for them to hide behind in light of all those warehouses we are finding stuffed with undistributed food, and in light of the sheer dollars people will realize that Saddam spent on those palaces.

[Kip Lange]

Listen to Fox News' Greg Kelly. He's not impressed with the decor in Saddam's palaces, although he did sound envious of the guys in the better palace up the road from him.

Hehe, that's a tough spot to be in, eh? Dang, those jerks up the street have TWENTY solid gold commodes, we only have fifteen!

(no disrespect meant to the forces there, obvious it's still "hot" in there, I pray for their safety, but today is day of...levity :p)

[E Rocc]

This is sort of low budget looting on the fly.

The more professional and experienced looters undoubtedly already grabbed whatever "good stuff" existed in their offices.

-Eric

[Howlin]

Cheesy is what he called it........LOL.

[Catspaw]

Martha Stewart needs to be sent to Iraq to do penance and spruce up the place.

PUHLEEZE! These people just got through decades of a repressive regime. They don't need this kind of cruelty.

[Timeout]

guy beating the picture of Saddam

Check out the HUGH sunglasses on Saddam in that poster! Looks like the 70's!

[RippleFire]

From http://asia.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=worldNews&storyID=2533697

The only shooting in the city center was from Iraqi paramilitaries firing sporadically at U.S. forces across the river.

The firing came from around the Palestine Hotel, home to many foreign journalists, but the U.S. military did not return fire.

[rolling_stone]

IO kept hearing a voice (female?)on the roof speaking profanities, MF over and over again when they were quing up, how unprofessional..

[Kip Lange]

Hard for them to hide but easy for liberals to (somehow, give me a minute, I'll come up with spin :p) to explain away.

[cajungirl]

Can't you just seem him at the door "Look what I got for you honey, a refrigerator"