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Liberal Press Continues to Spin War: 'US is Losing'
Many | 4/8/03

Posted on 04/08/2003 8:18:00 AM PDT by pabianice

Here's a selection of what the American Marxist Press is saying about the war:

At Intersection, Army's Mission Turns To Chaos

(Washington Post, April 8, 2003, Pg. 1)

As Army troops barreled into the heart of Baghdad, a unit from the 2nd Brigade of the 3rd Infantry Division was ordered to hold onto a key cloverleaf in the southern part of the city. The mission sounded routine, but it quickly turned into five hours of killing and fiery chaos after an Iraqi rocket-propelled grenade slammed into a U.S. ammunition truck at the intersection. At least two soldiers of the 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment task force were killed and four were wounded.

Exile-Led Militia Has Low Numbers, High Hopes

Opposition Group's Men, Mostly Arabs, Seen As Unprepared (Washington Post, April 8, 2003, Pg. 14)

A motley group of freedom fighters filed aboard four C-17 military transport planes at a remote airfield in northern Iraq last weekend. Some of the 700 men of the 1st Battalion of Free Iraqi Forces—vaunted as the kernel around which a new Iraqi army would be assembled—were so lightly armed they lacked even pistols, let alone assault rifles.

War Overwhelms Baghdad Hospitals, U.N. Group Says Growing Civilian Toll Raises Worries About Alienating Iraqi People

(Washington Post, April 8, 2003, Pg. 21)

International health organizations warned that Baghdad's hospitals have been overwhelmed by casualties, now that fierce urban combat has erupted across Iraq's capital, with supplies dwindling and medical personnel caught in the crossfire and unable to get to work.

Risk Of Being Killed By Own Side Increases

(New York Times, April 8, 2003)

The risk of friendly fire incidents may only increase as modern combat puts an emphasis on missions behind enemy lines and simultaneous probes deep into enemy territory, according to military officers and historians of warfare. The peril increases because today's battlefields no longer feature linear battle lines with clearly drawn fronts, flanks and rear echelons.

Taliban Looks To Reclaim Control

Many Fear Return Of Old Problems

(Washington Times, April 8, 2003, Pg. 14)

At a time when the United States is promising a reconstructed, democratic postwar Iraq, many Afghans are remembering hearing similar promises not so long ago. Instead, what Afghans see are thieving warlords, killings on the roads and a resurgence of Taliban vigilantism. There is little to stop it. The soldiers and police who were supposed to be the bedrock of a stable postwar Afghanistan have gone unpaid for months and are drifting away.

Annan Talks Up Postwar U.N. Role

(Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2003)

Arguing that the United Nations must play a role in rebuilding war-torn Iraq, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said that the international organization would bring legitimacy to any government that rises from the ruins of battle.

Public Seems To Tolerate War's Death Toll

(New York Times, April 8, 2003)

U.S. casualties in Iraq have not eroded public support of the war, according to recent public opinion polls and interviews with scores of Americans. Pollsters and political consultants said the public's tolerance for casualties was not purely a matter of numbers, but also depended on the length of the war, the perception of its progress and how the media reported it. One big, bloody battle with a high United States death toll could change everything, they say.

The Ring Of Truth?

Nicholas D. Kristof

(New York Times, April 8, 2003)

One of America's most historic and bipartisan traditions is to do an execrable job explaining itself to the world. The central problem was pinpointed by a Chinese journalist recently during a U.S. military briefing at Central Command headquarters. "This is propaganda," he said brightly. "I was born and grew up in a propaganda country, and so I know it well." He beamed. "Actually, they do the propaganda very well, better than we do it. We in China can learn from this propaganda."

The Day After

David Ignatius

(Washington Post, April 8, 2003, Pg. 33)

America is strongest when its ferocious military power is linked with the legitimacy provided by the United Nations. "For that reason, I hope Bush will agree with Blair that the United Nations should have a major role in the reconstruction of Iraq. I'd even offer a role for America's fair-weather friends, the French, Germans and Russians—not to be nice but because American interests will be protected by their participation."

The View From The Throne

Robert Scheer

(Los Angeles Times, April 8, 2003)

As an occupying army in a nation with which it has no cultural affinity, the United States will have to accomplish miracles in Iraq: build from scratch a functioning democracy in a country full of sharply divided nationalist, religious and tribal passions and with no history of political freedom—and do it by force without antagonizing the populace. "We have won nothing yet."

Preemptive Peace

Harold Meyerson

(Washington Post, April 8, 2003, Pg. 33)

The editor at large of American Prospect writes that President Bush, by imposing a narrowly factional government on postwar Iraq, is unveiling earth-shaking changes in fundamental American policy as a series of faits accomplis—"and the Democrats are hiding under rocks. And this is a nation that claims the expertise to build a democracy on the other side of the world?"

After The War

(New York Times, April 8, 2003)

Security in postwar Iraq will have to remain in the hands of American and British forces for some time, but the legitimacy of the foreign presence will depend on how quickly the authority for governing the country can be transferred to an interim administration under U.N. sponsorship. "Yes, that will require returning to the Security Council for a resolution, which is probably the last thing Mr. Bush wishes to do after the acrimonious collapse of diplomacy last month. But pique is not a good guide to making foreign policy."

A Partnership For Iraq

(Washington Post, April 8, 2003)

President Bush pledged before the war to seek "partnership" with the United Nations in Iraq, but the Pentagon is poised to impose a unilateral scheme that will maximize the costs and risks to this country—as well as the chances that the process will fail. "For the sake of the international system and the Western alliance, but even more for the security of the United States and its troops, Bush should work with Blair to create the multinational partnership for Iraq that he promised."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: acceptablecasualties; anothervietnam; baghdadbob; boggeddown; deeplysaddened; mediahysteria; motherofallbattles; quagmire
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I didn't realize we were losing so badly.

Is any further proof needed that Liberals suffer from congenital brain damage?

1 posted on 04/08/2003 8:18:00 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Speaking of our losing the war, Has anyone heard from Baghdad Bob today?
2 posted on 04/08/2003 8:21:21 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: pabianice
QUAGMIRE ALERT!!!
3 posted on 04/08/2003 8:21:38 AM PDT by WaveThatFlag
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To: pabianice
Liberals suffer from congenital brain damage?

In addition to chronic constipation.

4 posted on 04/08/2003 8:22:59 AM PDT by CanisMajor2002 (Annoy a liberal...judge them by the content of their character)
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To: HEY4QDEMS
>>"Has anyone heard from Baghdad Bob today?"

He's still in a meeting.
5 posted on 04/08/2003 8:28:09 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (Again, protestors have NO RIGHT TO BE HEARD, only a freedom to speak.)
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To: pabianice
That first Washington Post story you cite is marvelous, a first-rate piece of journalism. Everybody here should read it.
6 posted on 04/08/2003 8:29:19 AM PDT by ArcLight
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Speaking of our losing the war, Has anyone heard from Baghdad Bob today?

Somebody, I think MSNBC, just showed him in an on-the-street type setting surrounded by what I presume are "journalists" or people pretending to be, and he announced we would be defeated. (same song)

7 posted on 04/08/2003 8:32:22 AM PDT by cyncooper (They dug them up with their hands.)
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To: pabianice; JohnHuang2
Thanks for posting the latest re the arrogance of the left wing maggot infested mediots.

John, some more fertile material for future 2 centers showing how the left wing mediots continue to lie.
8 posted on 04/08/2003 8:35:08 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If you like a Strong Free Republic, become a monthly donor! Freedom isn't free!)
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To: pabianice
Looks like Fedayeen Clinton is doing their share today.
9 posted on 04/08/2003 8:38:36 AM PDT by Sam's Army
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To: ArcLight
It was an excellent piece of war journalism, realistic and nuanced. The Post's problem was that the copy editor didn't read it all the way through before writing the headline. It is too bad, because a lot of people I'm sure looked at headline, rolled their eyes (a non-PC response) and moved on. Lame headline writing is a disservice to the readers as well as the good writers.
10 posted on 04/08/2003 8:39:10 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: pabianice
"Risk of Being Killed By Own Side Increases."

Obviously, this is something the "NY Times" should worry about.

11 posted on 04/08/2003 8:47:58 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: 3AngelaD
I don't even have a problem with the headline. The story does leave an impression of chaos and horror.
12 posted on 04/08/2003 8:48:46 AM PDT by ArcLight
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To: HEY4QDEMS
Baghdad Bob is busy emailing in a frenzy with John Kerry.

Latest email from Kerry: Dear Bob, I see you are doing a wonderful job with the press, most of the world believes in what you are saying. I am having a bit of a problem with the tactic we discussed previously, I used the "Regime Change" routine, it isn't going over so well here. I may need your help soon. I request you come over and run my campaign as I see that you will soon be out of a job after you drive those coalition troops into the sand. Can you see any way of coming soon. Week of April 15th would be a good time, as the minions will be very busy that week, getting their/our money to us, and also it is Easter week, and they will also be distracted with some kind of holy day. thereby giving us freedom to the airways and they will not notice. Sincerely JFK.

Dear John: Yes, I will be very happy to run your campaign, I will try to book passage out of Baghdad via our Sadham Int'l airport. My only stipulation will be that I get to marry Eleanor Cliff and/or Hillary Clinton and move into the Hill's house. Let me know if this can be arranged.

Dear Bob: No problem, both our girls have said yes with glee. By the way what happened to your wife? I must tell you that after we win my Presidency, I will be most appreciative if you will run our DNC, you are the most superb spokesman for our cause I have ever seen, you even beat Clinton at the spin game. Sincerely JFK.

Dear John: My wife? what wife? Well, my last one is on the front line as my human sheild, she won't last long. As to the DNC, I would be honored to helm your organization, everyone loves me and believes everything I say, I know I will be perfect. Bob.

Dear Bob: Thanks for everything Bob, Looking forward to further working with you, see you soon, I will let my troops know you are coming. Sincerely JFK

13 posted on 04/08/2003 8:49:19 AM PDT by annieokie
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To: ArcLight
Thanks for pointing that out. I wouldn't have clicked on it otherwise.

You're right, it was a very well-written and interesting piece. God bless those boys over there.

14 posted on 04/08/2003 8:49:33 AM PDT by dead
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To: cyncooper
Too bad, I was hoping he made a reservation at the le Saa.
15 posted on 04/08/2003 8:52:34 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: HEY4QDEMS
le Saa = al Saa
16 posted on 04/08/2003 8:56:40 AM PDT by HEY4QDEMS
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To: pabianice
Two points:

Anyone else catch the subtle stereotyping of Nick Kristof writing how the Chinese reporter "beamed". Why is it that Chinese people always beam? Also Kristof is a retard if he believes the Chinese state reporter's claim that CENTCOM is "propaganda".

Also, what gives the UN legimacy? It's actions. If the organization has Libya chair the human rights comittee and Iraq chair the disarmament comittee its very actions make the organziation illegitimate. It looks the other way concerning the plight of Muslim women. So many of the people of so many member nations live under brutal, opressive, regimes. The terrible actions of the UN makes the UN charter and the body itself a laughingstock.
17 posted on 04/08/2003 8:57:13 AM PDT by jjm2111
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To: pabianice
Losing this war? You mean, the "stalled" war--the fastest ground war in military history (500 miles conquered in 17 days)? The one with a lower death rate for 250,000 troops than if they had stayed stateside (national death rate for 250,000 for 30 days = 181 versus 90 American fatalities, only have of which were combat-related)? The war where the entire national oil supply is NOT ablaze, as predicted. The one where the national capital was taken without the anticipated hand-to-hand guerilla warfare? The war in which the "agressor" has done more to preserve landscape, landmarks, and civilians than did the country's ruler?

Just proves that what you listen to or read determines your perspective. Just the facts versus just the spin, I'll take Fox News anyday!

18 posted on 04/08/2003 9:01:49 AM PDT by MHT
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To: HEY4QDEMS
I think Baghdad Bob was having dinner with Saddam and a few of his advisors.
19 posted on 04/08/2003 9:05:48 AM PDT by My2Cents
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To: annieokie
My only stipulation will be that I get to marry Eleanor Cliff and/or Hillary Clinton and move into the Hill's house.

There's been a change. Eleanor Clift and Hillary are marrying each other. However, Helen Thomas is available for Bob.

20 posted on 04/08/2003 9:08:21 AM PDT by My2Cents
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