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'Angry' Ark Royal crew switch off BBC (British Navy To BBC: Sod Off, You Brit-Haters!!!)
Ananova ^ | April 8, 2003

Posted on 04/08/2003 7:40:56 AM PDT by Timesink

'Angry' Ark Royal crew switch off BBC

The BBC has been axed from the nation's flagship naval vessel following claims of pro-Iraqi bias.

A remembrance ceremony is held on board the aircraft carrier HMS Ark Royal /AP

The Navy says it has switched off News 24 aboard HMS Ark Royal after complaints by the crew.

It is one of a handful of task force ships which receives live TV direct from Britain.

Rolling news plus two entertainment channels are beamed into the warship.

A BBC correspondent has been on board but the crew say they have no gripe with his reports.

However they were annoyed by the comments of presenters and commentators reporting on the carrier's Sea King tragedy a fortnight ago.

The BBC suggested poor levels of maintenance played a hand in the deaths of seven fliers.

Sailors also believe the news organisation places more faith in Iraqi reports than information coming from British or Allied sources.

One senior rating said: "The BBC always takes the Iraqis' side. It reports what they say as gospel but when it comes to us it questions and doubts everything the British and Americans are reporting. A lot of people on board are very unhappy."

Ark has replaced the BBC with rival broadcaster Sky News.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bbc; bias; britishnavy; navy
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To: Timesink
Can you explain the term, "Sod off"? Never heard it before.
21 posted on 04/08/2003 8:51:24 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Russ
BBC=Britain's sister station to Iraqi TV. Are you in England Russ? I was just wondering (for anyone that knows) how the people there feel about the BBC. Does everybody know it's way left or do they think it's giving the real story? How popular is Sky News over there?

I think Fox has had a lot to do with transforming opinion in the U.S. after decades of left wing media. I'd love to see a Fox equivilent in Britain, France and Canada.

22 posted on 04/08/2003 8:53:49 AM PDT by Reagan is King
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To: Brad Cloven
Like our Public radio and TV, the Brits have no choice but to pay for the leftist BBC.
23 posted on 04/08/2003 8:55:15 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Timesink
The government. Well, the government pays for it.

I think you mean the taxpayers are forced to pay for it with having to buy licenses for their TV sets.

24 posted on 04/08/2003 9:01:01 AM PDT by scouse
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To: Timesink
Did you see this at InstaPundit? He also linked to this anti-BBC blog.
Biased BBC

25 posted on 04/08/2003 9:10:23 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner ("I could be a really good Christian if other people didn't mess me up all the time." - Adrian Plass)
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To: MadIvan
We're seeing all kinds of reasons to believe that you Brits aren't as duped as we had feared.
26 posted on 04/08/2003 9:11:16 AM PDT by Mr. Mulliner ("I could be a really good Christian if other people didn't mess me up all the time." - Adrian Plass)
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To: TommyDale
Sod off: A vulgar expression to say "get lost", one step away from saying "f**k off", really.
Example: "I'm your Watcher so you do what I say. Now, sod off!" (Giles in "Band Candy")

Sod: a noun and verb, both vulgar. Originally, the verb meant to sodomise. Now the noun is used to say "idiot". The verb is mostly used as "Sod it!", to express anger, as you'd say "Damn it!" You can also use it as in "sod the spell" (Spike in "Lover's Walk) to say "forget/who cares about the spell".
Example: "Sod it! That bloody sod ran away with my lunch!"



27 posted on 04/08/2003 9:23:40 AM PDT by VMI70 (...but two Wrights made an airplane)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
I watch Sky News, but I take what David Chater has to say with a grain of salt: he's been watched closely since the first night of the war when he dared say "The airstrikes are very precise, not hitting civilian areas at all".

If he says the same kind of rubbish after liberation that he is saying now under duress, then I'll believe he's a rotter.

Regards, Ivan

28 posted on 04/08/2003 10:10:48 AM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Dergie
When you look at state-sponsored tv over all of Europe...you find a tremendous anti-US sentiment. The commerical stations simply carry news...with few comments. The state-run channels go as far to the left as possible. There is no doubt that half of the bad sentiment against the US currently...is due to this networks. The Germans use their station to go almost nightly against George Bush...and its an obvious attempt to take him down. I don't see why these countries continue to sponsor the public stations. You aren't getting anything much of value.
29 posted on 04/08/2003 10:15:33 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: Wright is right!
From the BBC.

Using television receiving equipment to receive or record broadcast television programmes without the correct licence is a criminal offence.
You could therefore face prosecution and a hefty fine of up to £1,000.

You may be asking yourself 'how will they know if I'm using a TV without a licence?' The answer is through a number of different methods.

At the heart of our operation is the TV Licensing database. It has details of over 26 million UK addresses.

Our officers have access to this computer system and a fleet of detector vans and hand-held detectors to track down and prosecute people who use a television without a licence. To find out how effective our methods are click here.

Each year it becomes easier to find and prosecute people breaking the law in this way.

So please be aware:

Using a television without an appropriate licence is a criminal offence.


Every day we catch an average of 1,200 people using a TV without a licence.

Our detection equipment will track down your TV.

The fact that our enquiry officers are now so well equipped with the latest technology means that there is virtually no way to avoid detection.

How our detector vans can catch out licence evaders
We can detect a TV in use, in any area. That's because every TV contains a component called the 'local oscillator', which emits a signal when the television is switched on. It's this signal that the equipment on our vans picks up.

But, what if you live in a block of flats or a house without road access? Well if this is the case our enquiry officer can simply use one of our hand-held scanners. Measuring both direction and strength of signal, they make it easy for us to locate television sets in hard to reach places.

How TV Licensing affects Dealers.


The Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967 (as amended) requires any dealer who sells or rents TV receiving equipment (whether the equipment is new or second-hand) to notify TV Licensing within 28 days of each transaction, giving full details of the buyer or renter.

Don't forget this also includes:

Computers fitted with electronic broadcast cards (TV Cards).

TV Cards themselves.

Set-top boxes.

Failure to do so may mean a £1,000 fine per offence for you, or any store manager employed by your company.

August 2000 was the first time a major retailer was prosecuted under the Wireless Telegraphy Act 1967. One of its outlets was fined a total of £2,500 including costs for not passing on details of six customers who had purchased television sets. More recently in October 2000, a second major retailer was found guilty of five such offences and fined over £2,000 including costs.

BBC License enforcement officer do not require a warrant to search a property.


Our enquiry officers have heard them all. A lot of the time, it's the same old story. Sometimes, it's the kind of story they feel they have to share.

The Red light - Destroyer of Damp
A woman claimed to the enquiry officer that she did not have a TV, even though he could see one behind her in the corner of the room. When he asked her about it she exclaimed, "Oh, that one…it's broken". He told her that there was a red light on at the bottom. She replied "Oh, that wee red light, I just keep that on as it keeps the damp from getting into it".

Bang the Television
A woman in a village claimed she only had a black and white television but when the enquiry officer asked if he could see it she quickly told him that there must be something wrong with it because if she hit it, it would sometimes come on in colour. She allowed him into her living room and proceeded to hit the television before switching it on. Sure enough, the television came on in colour. "there you are" she said, "see what I mean, there's something wrong with it".

Sky or SKY
When interviewing a woman in London, an enquiry officer asked during the conversation if she had Sky. "Yes", she replied. He proceeded to ask her what channels she watched on Sky and she answered, "I haven't got Sky". A little confused, the enquiry officer reminded her that she had just told him that she had Sky. "Yes, that's right, she's in the pram." She replied, pointing to her daughter.

Christmas Lights
An enquiry officer visited an address one evening where the curtains were open and a television set could be seen clearly - in use - in the lounge. When the occupier came to the door, he strongly denied having a set, saying that the enquiry officer had mistaken his Christmas tree light for a TV. The enquiry officer asked to go in and have a look, but was denied entry while the curtains were quickly closed. He went back to his car nearby to write out his report. A couple of minutes later he was surprised to see the husband and wife come out of the house carrying the TV. They put the set into the boot of the car and drove off.

The Vicious Tomcat
A young woman said that she didn't have a television and the enquiry officers asked if they could check. The woman said it was safe only as far as the hallway, as she would have to remove her cat, which was hostile and vicious towards strangers. The officers said that they would take a chance, but the lady insisted that it would be too dangerous, so the officers were left in the hall whilst she disappeared into the lounge. At that moment a ginger tomcat appeared from the kitchen. The officers stood rooted to the spot as this feline meowed and purred towards them, and then started to stroke itself against their legs. At the same time, the movement of furniture could be heard from the lounge, only to be interrupted by the occasional call of "come here Tilly you naughty cat" and "I won't be a minute, I've nearly caught him". The officers by this time had picked the cat up and were playing with it. One of them called through the door "What colour is the cat?" The lady replied "Ginger, with a red collar". The description perfectly matched that of the cat in the hall. A minute later the lady appeared saying that it was OK to enter, so the officer returned the cat to her, and retrieved the television set from the balcony.

The Sick Cat
The woman claimed that the reason for her not having a licence was because her cat had got sick down the back of the set and blew it up.

I Don't Live Here
Most enquiry officers come across the excuse "I don't live here". It's surprising how many are men dressed only in boxer shorts with nothing on their feet and have "just popped round to feed the dog".

The Wife
But the most common reaction from men confronted by TV Licensing enquiry officers is: "Oh, I thought my wife was dealing with it."






30 posted on 04/08/2003 10:52:02 AM PDT by ijcr
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To: Timesink
"Ark has replaced the BBC with rival broadcaster Sky News."

Yay! (Fox Affiliate - great coverage.)
31 posted on 04/08/2003 11:07:38 AM PDT by talleyman (Moose lips sink ships)
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To: talleyman
Those Brits have some really silly laws.

If I was a Brit, I would be chuffed!

32 posted on 04/08/2003 12:19:38 PM PDT by battlegearboat (I'm almost done.)
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To: Dergie
I say get the BBC out of America too, and let them take their sister, NPR, with them when they go.

I'll choose what I watch, thanks.  If they want to enter the free market with their goods,
let 'em.  As long as my taxes don't pay for it, the more the merrier.
33 posted on 04/08/2003 12:50:21 PM PDT by gcruse (If they truly are God's laws, he can enforce them himself.)
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To: Timesink
I had the misfortune of watching the BBC while in Singapore and Bali last year; it was the only english speaking non sports stuff on. It is hard to imagine a network worse than CNN, but the BBC is unbelievably bad. You have to see it to believe it.
34 posted on 04/09/2003 4:42:35 AM PDT by Jemian (Walk softly and drop a REALLY BIG bomb.)
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To: Timesink
Ark has replaced the BBC with rival broadcaster Sky News

Yeah!

35 posted on 04/09/2003 4:53:39 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Jemian
Yep, BBC was the only english news I could get when I was working in Africa...I got so I prefered watching the local stuff in Swahili....the both made about as much sense.
36 posted on 04/09/2003 4:55:04 AM PDT by Cuttnhorse (To heck with "Al Qanada")
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To: VMI70
"Sod it! That bloody sod ran away with my lunch!"

I didn't realize that my English mother swore a lot until I was an adult. "Oh, THAT'S what it means..." 8-)

37 posted on 04/09/2003 4:58:32 AM PDT by Aquinasfan
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To: Russ
Last evening BBC News on TV reported that the British troops, upon entering Basra, were greeted with a "tepid"
response by the people. It showed film of unenthusiastic crowds watching them enter. Over on Fox it showed large numbers of citizens waving, shouting and hugging the British troops. Fox reported the entry as a celebration of liberation




And they say the left doesn't control any of the media...balanced and fair...gagggg

When is the ugly comedian lady with the black glasses going to "crawl through broken glass" as she said she would do if the people of Iraq greet with joy the liberators of their country..I will donate a few broken drinking glasses
38 posted on 04/09/2003 5:14:21 AM PDT by Taffini (I like Tony Soprano even though he is a fat-boy)
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To: ijcr
Explain this to me...I may have misunderstood what you were saying...

You just CAN'T go out and buy a regular TV set, go home and plug it in ?

Is that what you are saying? You need a special license to actually watch it?

So you buy a TV, then go out and get a license to legally use it?


39 posted on 04/09/2003 5:27:06 AM PDT by Taffini (I like Tony Soprano even though he is a fat-boy)
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To: Taffini
Yep! In the UK, when you buy a tv, the retailer has to take your name and address and reports you to the BBC.

Officially,you have to have a license to switch the set on.

As a side note,the BBC spends one sixth of the license fee collecting the license fee. The rest of the money is spent on seven radio channels and seven commercial free television channels.
40 posted on 04/09/2003 7:04:22 AM PDT by ijcr
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