Bush: 'We are committed to the Road Map'

Jerusalem Post ^ | Apr. 8, 2003

[Asher]

Apr. 8, 2003

Bush: 'We are committed to the Road Map'

By THE JERUSALEM POST INTERNET STAFF

President George W. Bush said Tuesday that the US and Britain "are committed to the Road Map toward peace."

Speaking at a joint news conference with British Prime Minister Tony Blair in Hillsborough, Northern Ireland, Bush added: "Now this process must be carried forward."

Moments earlier Blair also reaffirmed Britain's commitment to the plan, which calls for achieving Palestinian statehood by 2005.

"It's a hopeful time. I believe we can make progress," Bush said.

Bush further said he is pleased with the designated Palestinian premier Mahmoud Abbas.

[honway]

The two wars on terror are the same

Now we are getting somewhere. We are defining the debate. The problem with the Road Map is that it is inconsistent with the two wars are the same.

Have a great weekend. Thanks for the debate.

[carton253]

And that is why I oppose the Road Map... because of the very reason that you stated... it is inconsistent with the war on terror.

Well, look at that... we've reached the same decision.

You have a great weekend too.

[American in Israel]

If you want to post love letters on the National Bulletin Board and then cry when they are commented on, I seriously think you need to get a life. Your comment was stupid, It was my pleasure to point that out, as it is again my pleasure with this comment. If you want a private reply, I suggest you press the private reply button. (Clue)

[ladyinred]

There will never be peace between Jews and Arabs, never.

[American in Israel]

No, I was repeating what the Arabs say about themselves. If you wish to try to live within the box of "Political Correctness" and never allow yourselves to see the things that are right before your eyes, do not expect to debate with people who live in the real world. I will not play by your self-condemning rules, I want to survive this adventure. Pretending that the Arabs are not blood thirsty killers screaming in the streets for the blood of American's and Jews because you think that is "hate speech" will not stop them from screaming, or from gutting and stomping me if I walk down the wrong street.

I suggest you go back to your Disneyland world and do not open the curtains. They are being bred for Cannon Fodder, their Rulers and their own mothers brag about it. Castigating me for pointing it out will not change that fact.

You also have seen the pictures of children, even baby's dressed up in their finest explosive vests. What part of a Clue can you not grasp here? I get to play bus roulette on a daily basis, I, like most everybody on the bus spend the whole ride looking at who is getting on the bus, looking at the bags they carry, looking for that drugged Jihadi look in the eye.

You are a prissy little mind gamer, I suggest you get out and live a little before life passes you by.

[American in Israel]

First off, it is none of your business, secondly, if you read my home page you would know I do not have dual citizenship.

However to question my loyality to my country by saying, see, you are a Jew and therefor your arguments are invalid is bigotry in action, plain and clear as the nose on your face. Honway, you are an anti-semite. Now the funny thing is YOU DO NOT KNOW WHY.

I suggest you look into religion. There is a God, and you hate him, just like your Master. That is something that you may wish to fix, before you have to explain your life before God.

Did you know that to say the Material world is all there is and to say the Spiritual world does not exist, does not make it so?

[American in Israel]

It has been reported that castration has been discussed in the Knesset as a solution to the Arab population problem.

Only by the Palestinians. But then they blame sun spots on jews too.

[American in Israel]

Since most Jews are just as recent or more recent immigrants to Israel as many Arabs (please note the careful choice of words), I fail to see your parallels.

Because the Jews came to their Nation, Israel and the Arabs came to the Jews Nation Israel and claimed that they have been here for thousands of years and demand that they get the Nation back from the occupiers Israel.

They cannot have it both ways. If they are immigrants to Israel, they have the rights of an Immigrant to purchase land, build on it and obey the laws of the land. If they were here before the Israel was declared an independant Nation they ARE Israeli's and have full citizenship and voting rights. But to come in 5 years ago, build a house on land they do not have a deed to and then demand that the land be given to them because it was their great-grand daddys land even before the paint drys is a lie.

But that is the way of "Palestine".

Over 80% of the existing population of "Palestinians" have parents from Iran, Iraq, Syria, Egypt and Saudi Arabia.

Tell me, what is a Palestinian? Many Arabs who have never been to Israel, and who's parents never came to Israel claim to be "Palestinians".

That is because "Palestinian" is not a people, it is a Political movement to destroy Israel. The land they claim is not because they ever owned it, but because the Moslems once conquered it. Never forget that Spain is not called Spain in Arabia, it is called "The Emerald of Islam". No kidding, they still claim Spain because once they beheaded people their in the name if Mohammad. Once blood is spilled in conquest, the land is Islamic forever in their minds.

The sooner you understand that, the sooner you will begin to hear what they are saying.

[American in Israel]

Do you maintain citizenship in two countries? If so, when the national interests of the U.S. are different from the national interests of Israel, which do you choose?

No I do not.

Do you believe Pollard should spend the rest of his life behind bars for his acts of espionage against the United States?

And what act of espionage is he guilty of? Do you even know?

You appear to be dealing with a lot of anger. Have you considered an anger management course?

You seem to be trying to make me angry, have you considered a hypocracy management course? What I said was not said in anger, I was pointing out the clear parallels between their thought patterns and yours.

[American in Israel]

>Have you ever served in the military?

Yes.

Did you get an honorable discharge after serving your full enlistment?

[American in Israel]

There will never be peace between Jews and Arabs, never.

Indeed you are correct, but you can state it clearer by saying There will never be peace with Islam. It is not a Jewish-Arab-American problem, it is Islam vs non-Islam as that is the way it is spelled out in the Koran.

Because Islam has eaten Arabia, does not mean Arabia is the problem, remember in Indonesia Jihad happens too. (Bali Bomb slaughter) There are no Arabs there, just Moslems.

I know you know this, and I am not accusing you of racism, your comment just is a good stepping point to clearing up that the issue is not race, but religion.

[American in Israel]

It is very hard to separate the chaff from the wheat in this situation. Yes, our war is with terrorism, not Islam. Because we believe that a man is free to choose who he will serve when it comes to God.

But on the other side, Islam is at war with us, their creed teaches them they must subjugate all of the world to Islam by force.

Yes, our battle is with Islam because IT has caused the terrorism. When Islam stops producing terrorism and war, we will stop being at war with it because Islam is not the focus, terrorism is.

It is not an Arab problem, it is a death cult problem. But as long as the Arabs give themselves over to the death cult and attack us, it IS an Arab problem. A very big problem for them.

It is not a Jewish problem, it is because Israel is surrounded by Islamic Police States that it has become a Jewish problem.

The various evil-dictators lie to their subjects to control them, it is after all what evil people do. Good people do not become dictators in the first place. So until Terrorism is defeated by destroying the dictators that are intentionally spawning it, we will continue to be at war. Not by choice, but because the only other option is to be destroyed by them. The Dictators USE Islam and torture and power to whip up an army of rabble.

Right in the teachings of Islam it says that if your infidel neighbor is too powerful, do not attack him until you are powerful enough to destroy him. Make treaties with him until you are powerful enough.

So a simple solution that will not require us to become the dictators of the world, (thereby evil winning the war but loosing the battle), is to do exactly what Bush and Blair are doing. They are stomping the strongmen of Islam with "shock and awe".

Islam will back down, when the incredibly thick headed cultists learn their lesson. They will make treaties and will once again try to come up with super weapons and armies to destroy the world.

But a free nation will always out perform and out produce and out fight a religious cult run kleptocracy. As long as we remain a good and free people, they will never be able to overcome us by evil.

But it is when we play with evil that we become weak and forget that the hounds are at the door, ever willing and ever wanting to tear us to pieces.

America, as long as it remains a home to good Christians can remain as it always was, a free secular government. But when the secularists are allowed to dictate that good men are not free, then we crumble from within. "When the wicked rule, the righteous groan". Our Anti-God, pro Abortion, pro Sexual perversion modern society has weakened us. Will we learn that freedom means freedom for all? Or will we continue to make special laws favoring evil and outlawing good? That is the core of the war, the reason we are fighting.

Islam is not illegal in schools, in fact Satanism is not Illegal, but Christianity is. You do not hear of homosexuals loosing Jobs because of what they do, but you hear of Christians being hounded out of jobs, schools, etc.

It is because Christians are not dictators and evil men are.

Our country was formed in the name of the freedom to worship God as a man saw fit. It was formed under God. It was not formed that man could worship man, or that men could kill one another in the name of "choice".

Just like there are holocaust deniers, there are those who deny that America was founded as a Christian Nation.

But then, lying is what evil men do. Because evil men come to believe their own lies, is why we are at war. The Moslems in Arabia actually believed what Al Jezeria said, they were SHOCKED when reality forced its way into their lives.

Reality, what a concept.

[American in Israel]

Bush further said he is pleased with the designated Palestinian premier Mahmoud Abbas.

As Mahmoud Abbas is a known terrorist is Bush pleased because he knows with Abbas in power the Road Map will never happen? Or is bush a fool. I think Bush has proved he is nobodys fool.

[American in Israel]

I noticed you are only here to talk, not listen. You do not seem to care if what you say is accurate, just as long as you can get a thrill saying it.

Must be why God says in the Bible that a man is judged by his the words of his mouth, to handle cases like yours.

[honway]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/892790/posts

The following words were written about the Bush Administration's plans to build a free and stable Iraq.
I believe the same words apply to the Bush Administration's Road Map, as well.

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"First, because the Bush administration has earned it. It has proven itself right time after time. It has discomfited its critics and it has repeatedly astonished even its pessimistically inclined well-wishers, such as myself. It went into the war extravagantly claiming that the people of Iraq would greet us as liberators, and—by God—they did.

Second, because we have no other choice right now. The alternative to the optimism of George Bush is either the defeat of Western civilization or else a protracted apocalyptic struggle between Us and Them that will divide and torment the world for generations to come."

[honway]

I suggest you look into religion.

That's very good advice. There is a great deal of wisdom to be found there that applies to the turmoil of today.

He came closer to the city, and when he saw it, he wept over it, saying, "If you only knew today what is needed for peace! But now you cannot see it!"
(Luke 19.41-42)

[bvw]

Let me ask you three straight questions. Is Jewish a legitimate religion recognized by God? Do you recognize any Jew who does not accept the concept that Jesus is Lord as having a valid religion or, in your view, mustthat Jew first come to accept Jesus? If God, Himself, laid out the borders of Israel, would you agree those are good borders and in all fact, a title to that land?

[honway]

Is Jewish a legitimate religion recognized by God?
Yes.

Do you recognize any Jew who does not accept the concept that Jesus is Lord as having a valid religion

Yes.

mustthat Jew first come to accept Jesus?

No.

would you agree those are good borders and in all fact, a title to that land?

No.