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Fed piecing together emergency rescue plan
Straits Times ^ | Updated April 8, 6.00 am (Singapore time)

Posted on 04/07/2003 7:18:16 PM PDT by DeaconBenjamin

WASHINGTON -- Confronting new fears of recession, the Federal Reserve is refining an emergency economic rescue plan that includes further interest rate cuts and billions of dollars in extra cash for the banking system.

The Fed's effort would be aimed at pulling the country out of a nosedive that has seen 465,000 jobs evaporate in just the past two months, raising fears among economists that the weak recovery from the 2001 recession is in danger of stalling out altogether.

'Clearly, the Fed is in uncharted territory,' said economist David Jones. 'I think they will try some experimental moves.'

One key element hasn't been used successfully in a half-century.

Based on comments by Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan and other Fed officials, the central bank is expected to move beyond its traditional buying and selling of short-term Treasury securities held by banks to the direct purchase of longer-term securities in an effort to influence long-term interest rates.

Also, Fed officials have indicated they are prepared in the event of an unexpected shock to the system to lend massive amounts of money directly to commercial banks to make sure that financial markets do not freeze up.

And as a third policy option, Fed officials have indicated they would explicitly state that if the federal funds rate is moved below its current 41-year low of 1.25 per cent, it is likely to stay at the lower level as long as needed to get the economy on its feet -- which would help investors' worries about a sudden jump in interest rates down the road.

The fact that Fed officials have been so open in discussing these options underscores the need the central bank sees to restore investor confidence that has been shaken by the fact that the Fed's aggressive two-year campaign to cut short-term rates has yet to produce a sustainable economic recovery.

The Fed's target for the federal funds rate, the interest that banks charge for overnight loans, is now at a 41-year low of 1.25 per cent. -- AP


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To: Southack
When I wrote that the Fed was rattling its economic sabre, I meant to convey that we are *threatening* to debase our currency, not that we are already engaged in doing it.

Then what, pray tell, is this?


81 posted on 04/09/2003 12:18:26 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235

What the Fed was *threatening* to do was something much more dramatic, in my opinion, than the pittance that we've seen so far to date.

Put the Dollar down to $.66 Euros and watch as U.S. businesses clean out the foreign competition in Europe (i.e. France and Germany get hammered). That's the threat.

And they should take it seriously. GWB *meant* it when he said that we would use ALL tools against those who oppose us and seek to do us harm.

82 posted on 04/09/2003 12:35:11 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
What the Fed was *threatening* to do was something much more dramatic, in my opinion, than the pittance that we've seen so far to date.

The inflation show in that graph has yet to arrive.

Put the Dollar down to $.66 Euros and watch as U.S. businesses clean out the foreign competition in Europe (i.e. France and Germany get hammered). That's the threat.

What color is the sky in your world? That would double the price of oil. Foreign investment would flee the United States. and on and on.

83 posted on 04/09/2003 12:38:10 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
"What color is the sky in your world? That would double the price of oil."

Nope. All oil is traded in Dollars.

If oil was traded in Euros, then you would be correct that inflation here would impact the price of imported oil, but oil isn't traded in Euros or Yen.

84 posted on 04/09/2003 12:44:05 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
Nope. All oil is traded in Dollars

It doesn't matter. Back in the 70's currency debasement led to an oil "crisis" when the Arab nations got fed up with the Funny Money needed to pay for the Great Society and Vietnam.

85 posted on 04/09/2003 12:46:18 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
"It doesn't matter. Back in the 70's currency debasement led to an oil "crisis" when the Arab nations got fed up with the Funny Money needed to pay for the Great Society and Vietnam."

That's a complete historical misreading of Carter's oil crisis and the Arab/Opec embargo.

86 posted on 04/09/2003 12:48:22 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
That's a complete historical misreading of Carter's oil crisis and the Arab/Opec embargo.

Its good enough for the editor of the Wall Street Journal.

BLACK GOLD, YELLOW GOLD

Jude Wanniski

Jude Wanniski, president of Polyconomics, Inc., Morristown, New Jersey, is one of the leading political economists in the United States. A prolific writer and profound thinker, it was Mr. Wanniski who, as Associate Editor of The Wall Street Journal from 1972 to 1978, repopularized the classical theories of supply-side economics. His book, The Way the World Works, published in 1978 to critical acclaim, and which brings a passion and eloquence to the supply-side model of political economy, became a foundation of the global economic transformation launched by the Administration of President Ronald Reagan.

It is safe to say very few people in the oil and gas industry realize that the dollar price of oil is now largely determined by the Federal Reserve Board. Which is to say that as the nation's central bank manages the supply of dollars relative to the demand for dollars, its accumulated daily and weekly mistakes have much more to do with the dollar price of oil than the supply and demand for the oil itself. In a world of floating currency exchange rates, the price of oil in each country's currency is largely determined by its central bank.

By this reasoning, the price of oil has dropped over the last 18 months to a level that makes life miserable for oil producers almost entirely because of deflationary monetary errors by the Fed. That is, the central bank's fight against earlier errors it made in an inflationary direction -- by supplying the world with more dollars than it wanted -- turned into an enormous error in the opposite direction.

When the United States was on a gold standard, this could not happen. When the price of gold began to rise from the official dollar rate of exchange, the Federal Reserve had to restrain the creation of monetary liquidity, i.e., currency and bank reserves. If it didn't, holders of the excess dollars could demand gold from Treasury's holdings at the agreed upon price. When the price of gold began to fall from that official rate, even by pennies, the Fed was obliged to add liquidity.

Under that kind of monetary discipline, the price of oil fluctuated with all other prices around the gold dollar, rising and falling in narrower ranges within business cycles and national and international expansions and contractions. Prices in the Great Depression fell not because of insufficient monetary liquidity, for example, but because the Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act of 1930 and the Hoover tax increase of 1932 caused a worldwide decline in economic activity and surplus of oil and gas.

Gold is of course obsolete as a medium of exchange. Nobody wants to go back to using gold coins or gold dust to buy horses or houses. But it remains the market's truest measure of scarcity or excess money in the financial system, even after Richard Nixon in 1971 suspended the dollar/gold link in 1971. Nixon did so thinking the Fed's ability to increase the money supply would help the economy and his re-election chances. Instead, in the next two years gold quadrupled in price to $140 from $35 as the Fed supplied liquidity to a market that wanted less, not more.

It was a Canadian, Robert Mundell, who alone among academic economists predicted in January 1972 that "We will soon see a dramatic increase in the price of oil, and thence all other commodities." For two years, the OPEC nations continued selling oil at the old price level, about $2.50 a barrel, but in increasing volumes. When the dollars lost 75% of their value against gold, OPEC quadrupled the price of oil. Americans blamed the sheiks when they should have blamed President Nixon and the economists who advised him.

When the gold price began its decline from a plateau around $385 in December of 1996 to as low as $272 earlier this year, it was inevitable that the price of oil would have to tumble by roughly the same amount. Other commodities have followed in train, causing similar problems to farmers and miners. This also means that unless the Fed supplies more liquidity than the market is demanding in the future, neither gold nor oil will recover and prices of all other goods and services as well as the nominal price of wages and real property will come down as well. The Commodity Research Bureau index of prices has been following gold down almost in lockstep over the past year.

Why did this happen as it did? For several years, from 1985 until 1993, the Federal Reserve had more or less kept the gold price stable at around $350 an ounce. When it shot up to $415 in August 1990 in response to Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, as the market guessed the Federal Reserve would inject dollar liquidity to offset an expected oil shortage, as oil futures showed a climb from $20 to more than $35. The Fed did nothing, the gold price soon crept back to $350, and oil came back too.

In this period of relative dollar stability against gold, the world in general and Asia in particular became comfortable in the dollar realm. Their central banks could take their guidance from the Federal Reserve by keying their own liquidity demands to the price of the dollar. The problems began with President Clinton's tax increase of 1993. The higher tax rates caused a decline in the demand for dollar liquidity. Because the Fed did not drain the liquidity be selling bonds from its portfolio to its member banks, the surplus pushed up the gold price. From its $350 plateau, it began to rise at year's end and by February 1994 settled at $385, a 10% increase. At that point, the dollar price of oil recovered from its lows of the previous year and followed gold up. Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan worried that the gold price increase would be inflationary and tried to bring it down by raising interest rates. He should have been selling bonds, to take liquidity out of the system, but he feared that would lead to recession. Gold hovered at $383 or a few dollars above.

For the Asian banks to keep their currencies as good as the dollar, their central banks had to add liquidity in order to prevent their currencies from appreciating against the dollar. Thailand was especially anxious to keep the baht linked to the dollar. Its banks were soon flush with reserves that they really did not need, but became available to borrowers who had only cross-your-fingers collateral.

All went well until the November elections in the U.S. in 1996. It was good news for Americans as the re-elected President Clinton and the returned Republican Congress vowed to work together to produce a satisfactory budget. As the markets began to smell the tax cuts which eventually appeared -- the capital gains tax cut, the Roth IRA, and the higher exemptions on estate tax -- the demand for liquidity increased. The real economy was gearing up for faster non-inflationary growth.

Unhappily, the Fed not only did not respond to the increased demand for liquidity with fresh supply, it actually raised the overnight interest rate it controls early in 1998. The gold price plunged through the $350 plateau and by midyear was at $325. Remember the folks in Thailand? In valiantly trying to keep the baht equal to the appreciating dollar, the Bank of Thailand was forced to starve its own economy of liquidity. When it could no longer handle the stress, in July 1997 it devalued the baht. In the months that followed, the chain reaction spread through the rest of South Asia.

Why is the yellow metal so important as a signal of the Fed's monetary errors? Why is black gold among the first commodities after gold to follow its lead, up and down? The reason is that gold remains the most monetary of all commodities and that oil has many of the same monetary properties.

Even after all currencies floated free of a gold link in the 1970s, the central banks continued to hold gold as monetary assets. There are only about 120,000 metric tons of gold in the world. Because we know how much there is and where it is -- almost a third held by central banks -- is one of the most important reasons it has such utility as a monetary commodity. It is why Alan Greenspan told Congress he puts it at the top of his personal list as an inflation signal -- saying its stock is so great relative to its flow. Less than 2500 tons are added to the total amount each year. Oil also has a relatively high stock -- a 40-year inventory of proved reserves --- relative to its annual flow. The value of a "money" has to remain as steady as possible because it must serve as a unit of account for long-term contracts.

It also has to be portable and "fungible," which means each unit must be identical to every other unit. Gold refined a specific purity meets that requirement to perfection while oil comes close. The least fungible "commodity" is land, in that each square foot is different than every other square foot merely by its place on earth. For that reason alone there could never be a "land standard" for money. A monetary asset also has to be easily divisible -- which leaves out diamonds, and immune to the elements -- which leaves out anything that oxidizes.

For thousands of years, gold and silver were the elements used by civilized people as "big money," with the base metals used for small transactions. When France and the United States demonetized silver in 1873, its monetary functions declined and its industrial uses expanded. Almost the same amount of silver is produced each year as gold, but it is consumed by industry while gold goes into public inventories as a monetary asset and into jewelry as a private monetary asset. Silver's stock is now fairly low relative to its flow.

When there is a productive demand for dollars that is not being satisfied by the Fed, the dollar becomes relatively scarce relative to real things. The first real thing that signals the dollar's scarcity is the most monetary of commodities, the dollar price of which will decline (the beginning of deflation). When the Fed supplies more dollars than are productively demanded -- or fails to withdraw dollars suddenly in surplus for some reason, the dollar gold price will rise (the first breath of inflation).

As the gold price rises or falls, prices of other goods and services may move in the opposite direction for a while. This is because in the first instance they are priced in terms of their supply and demand. The most monetary commodities first rise or fall with gold and eventually all prices in the galaxy of prices readjust to the new price level established by the dollar/gold rate.

If you look at a chart of the gold price relative to a generic oil price, you will see that they also diverge, but eventually come back into balance. In the last two years, because the markets have become more sensitive to the gold/oil nexus, the two commodities have had less divergence.

There is nothing mystical about these relationships. If the U.S. government decided to manage the supply and demand for dollars on an Apple Standard, fixing a generic apple at $1 each by adding or subtracting from liquidity as the generic apple fell below $1 or above, the galaxy of all other prices would eventually adjust, but it would take much, much longer. Because of the uncertainties surrounding apple crops, the Apple Standard would be much less efficient than a Gold Standard, but oranges, for example, could not get much out of line by selling for a nickel or for $10 each.

It was this insight shared with me by Robert Mundell that led me 20 years ago to conclude that the world was not running out of liquid oil and natural gas.

Where does the oil and gas industry go from here? Of course that depends in the short run on what the Fed does. If it supplies enough liquidity to make gold scarcer than dollars, the gold price will rise and carry up oil and the prices of other things that come out of the earth along with it. In the longer run, oil's future is dependent not on nominal prices but on economic growth around the world.

Jack Kemp, for example, says that if he runs for President in 2000 and wins he could fix the gold price between $325 and $350. If that were to happen, the rest of the world would be able to fix their currencies to a dollar as good as gold, and the world economy and demand for oil would expand accordingly. A barrel of oil might not rise much above $23-$25, but a lot more of it would be demanded, produced and sold. Steve Forbes has in the past made the same arguments.

In that scenario, independent oil entrepreneurs would once again win or lose because of their own skills in finding black gold, not because of errors one way or the other by the Federal Reserve.

Jude Wanniski

Originally written on December 11, 1998

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87 posted on 04/09/2003 12:53:03 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235

Oh please...

88 posted on 04/09/2003 12:57:29 PM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
No. Hamilton created a system whereby the rest of our world could trust the word of the government. Unlike the former government which was untrustworthy, powerless and contemptible. Immediately American debt became the equivalent to that of long established European powers.

In the first 5 years of its existence, Hamilton's bank confiscated 42% of everything the American people had saved via inflation.

The Bank of North America fraudulently violated the provisions of its charter almost immediately upon its creation. It was required to receive 80% of its funds from private investors and it was required to redeem its notes in specie.

Both provisions were immediately violated. Furthermore many of the Bank's "private investors" were Congressmen who were well rewarded for their assistance. This is refered to as bribery by most folks.

He succeeded so well that Jefferson could not disrupt it and his intellectual heirs could not destroy it through force of arms.

Please. Its fiat that requires violence to support its ficitious value not honest currency.

I'll ignore the Red Herrings and straw men you tossed out.

The murder of American citizens to secure the solvency of a fraudulent financial system is scarcely a Red Herring.

89 posted on 04/09/2003 4:09:08 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: justshutupandtakeit; AdamSelene235
Your interpretation of Weimar monetary history is lacking.

You don't believe that the Weimar Republic overstamped the stamps with 2 and 5 million times their original value? I have these stamps in my collection. They are genuine. You can look them up in any stamp book if you like, I don't ask you to take my word alone, it's easily verified history. I did mention that there may have been a few stamps isssued between the 5 million overstamp and the Third Reich Hitler stamp, I just don't have those.

You do not have the process fully understood if you believe paying down debt causes deflation.

Here is how I understand it from explanations that have been given to me from various sources: Paying down debt causes less money. Less money to pay for goods and services causes lower prices since sellers have to either accept less money for their goods or not sell at all. Lower prices require lower wages in the making of whatever it is being sold since there is less money available from the sale to pay for labor in making it (BTW, I'm in business for myself for most of my adult life and can testify to the truth of this part, the lower wages resulting from lower prices. This isn't debatable and isn't just my opinion, it's just plain old math). Lower prices and less money available is deflation as it has been explained to me. Perhaps those who have explained it this way to me have done so wrongly and I would welcome further clarification by yourself if you wish to go into it. As I said, I'm not an economist and must rely on the explanations of such things by the economists and bankers I know (including one University Professor) that have led me to understand the system in this way. Perhaps they just didn't want to go into detail with someone not in their field or not studying their field ( I can understand that, I feel the same about some subjects of my own expertise. Just too much background lacking to get technical with most people).

No one would argue that paper currency can not be abused but the arguments for metallic backing are without merit if not impossible to implement without immense suffering.

Sorry if my mention of gold caused you to think I was advocating gold backing of our currency. I was just using it as a convenient way to express my understanding of how the money system works, I don't advocate gold backing of money (I don't oppose it either, actually I don't know one way or the other if it would work. everyone seems to say something different according to their own personal theory and claim their own expertise as the authority for their theory being the right one)

As I said, FWIW, and IMO. If you want to go into more detail about something feel free to do so ( I would appreciate any increased understanding of our money system I might aquire), but understand that I'm not an economist or a banker and don't have any pretense of genuine expertise in either field.

BTW, my post was in response to an inquiry asking if I understood that if we pay off the national debt our currency ceases to exist by AdamSelene235 in #31. You might possibly address this issue in relation to both infaltion and deflation, and what our money actually is and where and how it originates; there have seemed to be some misunderstanding and disagreement about this between posters on various threads over the years.

90 posted on 04/09/2003 5:47:33 PM PDT by templar
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To: AdamSelene235
This is still just the stock market correcting from the internet stock fiasco!
91 posted on 04/09/2003 5:49:26 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: templar; justshutupandtakeit
Good luck getting an explanation out of this guy. It is not in the interests of the Mandarins to create an system that is readily understandable. They prefer blather on about velocity, the M&Ms, etc, the "scarcity" of money, etc.

Or as John Kenneth Galbraith says: “The study of money, above all other fields in economics, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.”

Secrets of the Temple is a good although pro-Keynesian view of the Fed.

Try Rothbard's "History of Money and Banking in the United States" for an Austrian perspective.

The Creature from Jekyll Island is a pretty wacky tin foil view of the Fed. But I suspect much of the tin foil is true.

92 posted on 04/09/2003 6:04:08 PM PDT by AdamSelene235 (Like all the jolly good fellows, I drink my whiskey clear....)
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To: AdamSelene235
America was virtually destitute when the Bank was formed. It had no circulating medium. Thus, your "confiscation" crack is false on every level. Only by changing the definition to something utterly unlike taking can it be true etymologically even. Lack of capital (savings) was precisely the problem to solve which H. did. There was nothing to confiscate. Oh, and your post is 100% nonsense.

The Bank of North America was founded in 1781 its charter under the Confederation was relinguished in 1787 and it was rechartered as a private Pennsylvania bank. Do know anything about the subject you are trying to discuss?

When can I expect the armed squads to arrive at my house forcing dollars on me? Can I just meet them at the office and save them the trouble?
93 posted on 04/10/2003 6:31:27 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: Southack
A.S. misreading history? I can't believe it!!!
94 posted on 04/10/2003 6:34:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: american spirit
"A respected Dallas Morning News financial columnist...."

I sorry I couldn't finish your post my eyes were filled with tears from laughing so hard.

You were joking, weren't you? Pressitutes have less knowledge of economics/finance than regard for the truth.
95 posted on 04/10/2003 6:36:59 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: plusone
Your explanations of the crash of 1907 and 1929 are delusionary at best. Demand for a central bank was not a demand of the monied interest but initially the demand of the Populists, Greenbackers and Free Silver Democrats from the West. You have a completely wrong understanding of who wanted the bank. Eastern bankers were united for decades against a National Bank which they knew would limit their power. "Average" people were precisely the ones who had been demanding the bank for over 30 yrs.

If you ever read "The Madness of Crowds" you would clearly see these things (bank runs, etc. ) are not conspiracies (no matter what the communists claim) but a form of collective hysteria. How could a conspiracy produce a craze such as the "Tulip" boom in the Netherlands? Read about it.
96 posted on 04/10/2003 6:47:26 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: templar
You misunderstood. I don't deny the monetary shenannigans of the Weimar Republic merely that it is an argument against a central bank. That inflation was deliberately engineered not the result of a policy which misfired or the inevitable result of a National Bank. German experience since WWII shows inflation can be controlled and the Mark has been remarkably stable.

Even Econ. 101 clearly illustrates Fed purchases of government debt expands the money supply. It puts money into circulation which was not there before thus is INFLATIONARY despite what you may have been told. Whoever told you that does not know what he is talking about. How could the Fed buying your bond from you giving you an extra $10,000 not increase the money supply? It does not change net assets but does change the Ms. You won't be any richer nor will the Fed but you will have 0 bonds and 10Gs in cash.

Economic and monetary theory is not simple but no reputable economist would have told you that without mispeaking.

Our debt has nothing to do with our money except being denominated in monetary terms. Bonds are not a circulating medium, money is (or demand deposits.) At certain times and in certain places certain money was a circulating medium which did pay interest which obscures the difference.

Adam has no clue he couldn't even frame his argument correctly and spoke of "extinguishing" the debt which you presumed to mean "paying off" the debt. Extinguishing would be like default and would be deflationary and horrendously destructive. Paying it off would be horrendously inflationary.

These matters have been extensively studied and the abstrusiveness and highly mathematical nature of the models place such knowledge outside the bounds of most people as nuclear physics. People with minimal knowledge of one school (such as the Austrian) take those tidbits and think they can show all the other schools wrong. That is a popular past time around here but fails every time some one which more understanding of the subject responds.
97 posted on 04/10/2003 7:11:16 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: AdamSelene235; templar
Gee, I wish my "Mandarin" status gave me more than this lousy plastic cup. I didn't even have to get into the more technical aspects of the study of money to show your understanding is utterly defective. However, saying let's be even more ignorant about the study of money sure sounds like a convincing argument to me.

I am sure you would rather rely on JKG (an arch-Keynesian) for monetary theory than Milton Friedman. Who could be further from your perspective than JKG?
98 posted on 04/10/2003 7:17:57 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (Saddam's Democrat Guard will stage suicide attacks against Coalition forces)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I know, I know....the fellows' name is Scott Burns and even though he's probably has to follow the company line he does tend to expose issues and facts about the fedgovs accounting gimmicks,etc. He wrote a column on 2-16 about what I described and he re-produced figures from the fegov's financial report for 2001 as the basis of his story. I'm also familiar with the fact that the fedgov understates the true value of it's assets so perhaps his findings are somewhat skewed but the fact remains that Social Security and Medicare are woefully undefunded and someday we'll have to pay the piper. For more info do a keyword on "Dallas News ScottBurns 2003 columns".
99 posted on 04/10/2003 8:18:24 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: AdamSelene235
"Experimental moves?"

They've already tried this one and it hasn't worked too well:

Gee, these new ones will be something to behold...

100 posted on 04/10/2003 8:44:39 AM PDT by Dick Bachert
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