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Opec calls crisis meeting to cut production as oil price tumbles
independent.co.uk ^ | 08 April 2003 | By Philip Thornton

Posted on 04/07/2003 5:13:48 PM PDT by Calamari

The oil cartel Opec is considering an emergency cut in production to prevent a free-fall in the oil price, which yesterday tumbled to a four-month low at one point as the US-led Allied forces scored fresh gains in Iraq.

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To: Hessian
So when the price goes up, we pay for the cost of replacing the cheap gas with more expensive gas, and when the price goes down, we pay for the cost of the expensive gas in their tanks, but not the cheap gas they're replacing the expensive gas with.....this is a system?

LOL. It sure seems that way. Anyway, prices are "sticky", that is, they don't always move quickly. Prices of certain goods are stickier than others. Prices of gasoline are stickier than oil.

Although it is hard to beleive, a friend of mine at Exxon told me that they all got screwed in the run-up, and lost a lot of money by not raising prices fast enough. If true, then it would explain them not going down too fast now. But who knows. I am not endorsing that, just relaying info.

21 posted on 04/07/2003 5:55:44 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Lokibob
It never goes down as quick as it goes up.

The article states crude prices have dropped 1/3. Now where is my 1/3 at the pump?

The consumer never cares or pays attention to the price of crude when it is rising as long as gasoline prices remain stable. That's natural, but your statement isn't true.

Gasoline prices have already started to fall, even though the lower-priced crude is at least three weeks away from arriving at our refineries.

22 posted on 04/07/2003 5:57:01 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: leadpenny; Jhoffa_
Opec calls crisis meeting to cut production as oil price tumbles

You can take this as confirmation that they have been hosing us.

23 posted on 04/07/2003 6:10:25 PM PDT by Howlin ("I do believe this city is freakin' ours." -- Capt. Chris Carter of Watkinsville Ga)
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To: Howlin
Maybe a little animosity behind this as well?
24 posted on 04/07/2003 6:12:38 PM PDT by Jhoffa_ (Sammy to Frodo: "Yes, kiss me you fool!")
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To: Jhoffa_
Now, I hope we crank the spigot in Iraq wide open and bankrupt those freaks.

Best idea I've heard heard in a long, long time.
But then, the lefties would say "see, it was about the oil!"
25 posted on 04/07/2003 6:15:36 PM PDT by GoldMan
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To: Calamari
Them O'Peckers are having trouble sharing their millions among their many family members..... $28 bbl crude......

FUTURES MOVERS
Oil closes below $28; gold drops $4
OPEC may hold special summit to mull output cuts

NEW YORK (CBS.MW) -- Crude prices closed back under $28 a barrel Monday and gold futures finished the session down nearly $4 on expectations the war in Iraq is almost over.

Talk that OPEC may decide to cut production at a special meeting, reportedly slated for later this month, lifted crude to an intraday high of $28.70, though the market focused mainly on the progress of coalition forces in Iraq.

Gold futures prices settled lower on the war news. June gold fell $3.80 to $322.20 an ounce after losing as much as $6 an ounce. See Metals Stocks.

"As news that coalition forces are operating, apparently with little resistance, in central Baghdad reaches the markets, the overwhelming impulse is to sell," Michael Fitzpatrick, an analyst at Fimat USA, told clients Monday.

"The prospect of a return of Iraqi oil exports seems to be anticipated by the oil markets," he said.

Crude for May delivery quickly fell to a session low at $27.70 a barrel -- the lowest seen since March 25 -- before recovering to close at $27.96 a barrel, down 66 cents on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

Oil prices could be poised to fall further "once the risks of biological or chemical warfare is eliminated completely and coalition forces control Baghdad," said Thorsten Fischer, an oil economist at Economy.com.

Until then, "a part of the risk premium will remain, since fighting is not over and backlashes are possible despite the successful campaign so far," he said.

In the latest developments, U.S. and British forces fought their way into the centers of Baghdad and Basra, respectively, as the third week of the campaign to overthrow Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein built toward a climax. See full story.

OPEC chimes in

OPEC members will hold a special meeting on April 24 in Vienna to discuss oil prices and supplies, Dow Jones Newswire reported, citing a source within the oil-exporting organization. OPEC's next scheduled meeting isn't until June 11 in Doha, Qatar.

But OPEC President Abdullah Hamad bin al-Attiyah told Dow Jones the April meeting, aimed at discussing a possible output cut to correct a glut of oil and "dramatic" drop in prices, still has to be approved by the group's members.

OPEC members could decide even sooner by phone to reduce output if oil prices decline further, he was quoted as saying.

"OPEC may cut [oil] production at a time when we actually need all the oil we can get," said Phil Flynn, a senior analyst at Alaron Trading in Chicago, adding that the oil cartel is "a little distressed by the quick fall in price."

"If they cut in April, it could mean that we could see the possibility of tight supplies and shortages this summer," he said.

The cartel's output, excluding Iraq, totaled 26.25 million barrels a day in March, according to a Dow Jones survey -- above the quota limit of 24.5 million barrels per day.

IFR Pegasus senior analyst Tim Evans doesn't think OPEC will make any changes to its official output quota, but it'll likely "seek to reinstate compliance efforts."

Economy.com's Fischer, pointed out that "OPEC seems to be concerned about too much oil in the market."

This much, he said, is borne out by the price for its reference "basket" of seven crudes. That price has fallen to near $25 a barrel, which is the cartel's price target.

Venezuela, Nigeria also in the mix

Separately, news that some oil companies have begun to restart operations in Nigeria also pressured prices. Ethnic clashes there in recent weeks had prompted many oil companies to halt production in order to keep employees and facilities safe.

Production in Nigeria has fallen by about 800,000 barrels per day as a result of the unrest, according to the Energy Department. But Royal Dutch/Shell (RD: news, chart, profile) (SC: news, chart, profile) and ChevronTexaco (CVX: news, chart, profile) announced Friday they were gradually restarting some production out of the area.

Meanwhile, Petroleos de Venezuela announced a new oil field with reserves of more than 350 million barrels of light crude. Venezuela, with the largest oil reserves outside the Middle East, is a major supplier of oil and gasoline to the U.S.

Preliminary drilling on the Chaguaramal field in the eastern state of Monagas also revealed deposits of 870 billion cubic feet of natural gas, the state-run company said.

Total deposits in the newly discovered field may be as high as 460 million barrels of oil and 1.6 trillion cubic feet of gas, depending on the results of more drilling.

Supplies back in focus

With most of the war news "in the market" already, "supply data will be the driver for oil in the weeks ahead, just as stock traders will refocus on earnings and valuations," said Michael Armbruster, an analyst at Altavest Worldwide Trading.

Until the market sees further evidence of inventory builds, John Person, head financial analyst at Infinity Brokerage Services, believes crude prices will likely hold near $27.50 to $28 a barrel.

Kurt Hallead, oilfield services analyst at RBC Capital Markets, expects oil prices to sink to $24 a barrel in the second quarter.

"Global oversupply and a drop in demand (due to seasonal adjustments, previous stockpiling, and global economic weakness) will push the price down to this level," he said.

He also believes "OPEC will follow the Saudi lead and scale back production to stabilize pricing."

The latest U.S. inventories updates revealed that crude supplies are on the rise, as Saudi Arabia helps to offset the impact of production disruptions seen in Iraq and Nigeria.

Last week, the Energy Department and the American Petroleum Institute reported sizable climbs in crude inventories, along with a rise in gasoline supplies and a drop in distillate stocks. Still, crude and gasoline supplies remain well below year-ago levels. See full story.

In petroleum-product action Monday, futures prices ended lower, following crude futures down. May heating oil closed at 71.64 cents a gallon, down 0.96 cent, while May unleaded gasoline declined 2.78 cents to 84.24 cents a gallon.

Retail gasoline prices remain relatively high, but have been on the decline since March 19, according to AAA's daily fuel gauge report. The average U.S. price for gasoline at the pump stood at $1.637 a gallon as of early Monday, compared with $1.643 on Friday, the report said. A year ago, prices were at $1.388 a gallon.

Elsewhere on Nymex, May natural gas closed at $5.134 per million British thermal units, up 19.1 cents, with tight supplies still providing a boost to the market.

Total stocks of 680 billion cubic feet as of March 28 are 820 billion cubic feet less than last year at this time, according to the Energy Department.

In equities dealings, the Philadelphia Oil Service Index ($OSX: news, chart, profile) traded in a tight range. See Energy Stocks.

And the Reuters/CRB Index, a broad-based measure of the commodity futures market, closed slightly higher at 230.4, up 0.4 percent. Myra P. Saefong is a reporter for CBS.MarketWatch.com in San Francisco.

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26 posted on 04/07/2003 6:20:24 PM PDT by deport
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To: Calamari
This is the main reason (or excuse) why the Dow went from +252 to +36 today. Nasty "shooting-star" doji on the daily chart now. Don't look for Dow to rise above 8500 anytime soon.
27 posted on 04/07/2003 6:22:30 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Calamari
I think the newly controlled oil fields in Iraq might have some say as to whether production will be cut.
28 posted on 04/07/2003 6:23:51 PM PDT by fifteendogs
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To: Beelzebubba
>>It's off a nickle a gallon from the peak where I reside

$0.15+ here. Premium (93 octane) was as high as $1.729, IIRC. Same stations are around $1.559 right now.

"Here" is North Atlanta burbs.

29 posted on 04/07/2003 6:53:13 PM PDT by FreedomPoster
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To: OldFriend; ThinkDifferent
The best rejoinder to that "no blood for oil" crap that I've seen is this: if the U.S. is so hot on getting Iraq for its oil, why? Isn't Venezuela both closer and a bigger provider? Isn't Venezuela a more defensible intervention, since it IS in our 'sphere of influence' under the Monroe Doctrine? Isn't intervention in Venezuela more likely to protect immediate U.S. interests, since there is an actively socialist president there that might yet completely nationalize the wells and refineries?

Pose those questions to an idiot protestor and watch the jaw go slack and eyes go glassy.
30 posted on 04/07/2003 6:59:08 PM PDT by LibertarianInExile (Didn't FDR start the NRA? http://www.ggriffith.com/nra.htm)
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To: Calamari
prolly due to that Z machine unveiled in philadelphia today by Sandia National Laboratories
31 posted on 04/07/2003 6:59:20 PM PDT by swaimh (Venimus, vidimus, vicimus: we came, we saw, we conquered [saddam, that is])
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To: Calamari
Time to get the non cartel oil producers on board. Break this cartel forever.
32 posted on 04/07/2003 7:08:49 PM PDT by eleni121
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To: leadpenny
How about Cheney!
33 posted on 04/07/2003 7:17:33 PM PDT by Calamari
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To: Rodney King
explain to me why gas is 1.78 at the mobile down the road from me and less than 3 miles away at another mobile the gas is 1.59. also, the sunoco sation is 1.80 down the road from me and 5 miles away at a costal station the gas is 1.57 a gallon.
34 posted on 04/07/2003 7:19:30 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: MatthewViti
explain to me why gas is 1.78 at the mobile down the road from me and less than 3 miles away at another mobile the gas is 1.59. also, the sunoco sation is 1.80 down the road from me and 5 miles away at a costal station the gas is 1.57 a gallon.

Explain to me that a 20 foot ladder is 120 bucks at Lowes while the same ladder is 115 at Home Depot. Yet, a Skilsaw that is 135 at Home Depot is only 110 at Lowes.

The answer: It's competition. Different stations offer different things. There are different kinds of gas customers. There are some that focus on price. Others on location, and others on the other services offered i.e. deli, etc.

A station that sells a lot of other stuff might charge more for gas. A station in a good location might charge more for gas. Also, some stations managers are idiots and charge either too much or too little.

If you look around, you will notice that there are price differences for essentially the same product in every single industry. If it bothers you, then just go to the cheapest one.

35 posted on 04/07/2003 7:29:11 PM PDT by Rodney King (No, we can't all just get along.)
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To: Dog Gone
Gasoline prices have already started to fall, even though the lower-priced crude is at least three weeks away from arriving

Gasoline futures are already dropping. April gas (delivered to NYC harbor) is $0.968/gal, while July-delivery gas is $0.814 and December is $0.6885

36 posted on 04/07/2003 7:45:27 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Heavily armed, easily bored, and off my medication)
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To: Calamari
What tumble?? There hasn't been a 'tumble' in gas prices where I live.

Ah well, there will soon be many happy Kurds anxious to get into the oil business themselves. Unfortunately for OPEC, Iraq's not an OPEC nation. So what good will OPEC cutting THEIR prices do when the Kurds become oil tycoons?

37 posted on 04/07/2003 8:31:53 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions= Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Rodney King
"The gas stations paid for the gas in their pumps at a high price"

Bovine Feces! It takes a few days at most stations to need refilling their storage tanks, and it takes weeks for the price to come down, but it takes 24 hours for the price to go up a bunch if OPEC sneezes.

And here in Ohio we get the weekend bounce. Typically the price jumps up 10 or 20 cents on Thursday or Friday and then starts back down on Monday or Tuesday. They screw the motoring public here big time with their yo-yo pricing! They, the stations or their suppliers or both are BA$TARDS!
38 posted on 04/07/2003 8:44:34 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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To: Southack
and don't forget the ever increasing cost of govt. regulations.
39 posted on 04/07/2003 8:54:49 PM PDT by ol' hoghead
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To: cake_crumb
"...many happy Kurds anxious to get into the oil business..."

How so? I do not think we, the US will let the Kurds control the humongous oil fields in the northern part of Iraq. Iraq is a part of OPEC, though suspended since GW-I.

We may well decide that initially Iraq should be a part of OPEC, giving US a voice. Later we can withdraw Iraq and open the spigot big time to put OPEC in the place they so richly deserve. Why?

Initially Iraq will have limited pumping capability. Not enough to do much damage to OPEC. Later that will change, and probably much faster than the pundits are prognosticating. At some point we should expect Iraq to demand the right through OPEC to pump at least as much as Iran does now, 3.5 - 4 million barrels a day. OPEC will resist that, then it is time to force things. Expect it to happen.
40 posted on 04/07/2003 8:55:40 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea
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