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Dozen mortars land in central Baghdad
Agence France-Presse | April 6, 2003

Posted on 04/06/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by HAL9000

BAGHDAD (AFP) - Around a dozen mortar shells landed Sunday in the Saadun area in the heart of Baghdad while rocket fire was heard downtown for the first time in the war, AFP reporters said.

There was no immediate indication who fired the mortars or whether there were casualties from the shelling, which hit the busy commercial area near a hotel where most foreign journalists are staying.

The bombardment came at around the same time multiple rocket fire was heard in the Iraqi capital for the first time since US and British forces attacked Iraq on March 20 and launched a drive for Baghdad to oust President Saddam Hussein.

The blasts sounded similar to Katyusha rockets, which can be fired from small trucks. Katyushas have a range of around six kilometers (four miles). US forces also possess multiple rocket launchers.

Shortly beforehand, anti-aircraft gunners swung into action against war planes swooping over the capital.

The aircraft, which were invisible to the naked eye, roared overhead repeatedly during the day.

In the early afternoon, the capital came under heavy bombing of which the echoes were heard in the heart of the capital by AFP journalists.

The raids were so powerful they set off alarms of cars parked in the city center.

A US officer said Sunday that the US Army's 3rd Infantry Division now controlled the outer western side of Baghdad after destroying another Iraqi tank unit while the Marines were pushing towards the city from east of the Tigris river.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: baghdad; iraq; mortarattack; saddamhussein; viceisclosing

1 posted on 04/06/2003 9:56:11 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
So who is firing mortars in downtown Baghdad? Are our guys that close to city center in force? Are their guys so jumpy that they are firing wildly? Are there Iraqi freedom fighters in the central city?

Interesting.
2 posted on 04/06/2003 10:00:02 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: Arkinsaw
"near a hotel where most foreign journalists are staying."

Maybe they're zeroing in on Saddam's ultimate corps d'elite: Arnett and Fisk

3 posted on 04/06/2003 10:02:59 AM PDT by atomic conspiracy (Anti-war movement: road-kill on the highway to freedom.)
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To: Arkinsaw
Gotta be the Iraqiis. Our forces were soundly thrashed and on the run at the airport, remember? On the other hand, maybe they ran right into Baghdad proper. I'm sure Baghdad Bob will straighten this out in due course.
4 posted on 04/06/2003 10:03:16 AM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: HAL9000
It's the Iraqis!

While we do use 4.2" mortars, they are not an inherently accurate weapon and therefore not the weapon of choice in a situation like Baghdad.

5 posted on 04/06/2003 10:06:40 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamiam Esse Delendam)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Seriously, this is the utter chaos. When command and control is destroyed and the only people left to fight for Saddam or nuts and savages you get this.

This indiscriminate firing is typical of anarchy. This regime is over. At some point in the next 24 hours we may move in and take control.
6 posted on 04/06/2003 10:08:25 AM PDT by lavrenti
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To: lavrenti
or = and

the utter chaos = utter chaos

All your mortors belong to us. Make your time.
7 posted on 04/06/2003 10:10:16 AM PDT by lavrenti
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To: lavrenti
Even my corrections are wrong! Must make more coffee...
8 posted on 04/06/2003 10:11:03 AM PDT by lavrenti
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To: CatoRenasci
I beg to differ...the 4 duece is (with the right gunner and crew) a very accurate piece imo and experience when compared to 175 or 155.. the 105s werent bad ..but if you want to pour it on..over the top of a near obstruction ..with a spotter the 4.3 is boss
The article doesnt state how big a "mortar" is being fire..big diff between the 4duece and a 60mm
I hear we left our multiple launchers behind?..perhaps we brought some up..my guess its Hussein's mortars...and they are firing at shadows..
They are beaten men too stupid to fall down..and that's good if we can kill off a couple hundred thousand of the most vile rebuilding and keeping the peace will be much easier imo
9 posted on 04/06/2003 10:31:32 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: lavrenti
"When command and control is destroyed and the only people left to fight for Saddam or nuts and savages you get this."

If they're not doing so already, the dead-enders will begin turn on each other. For these animals, it's the survival of the fittest, now.

10 posted on 04/06/2003 10:47:56 AM PDT by AF68
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To: joesnuffy
Obviously, any indirect fire weapon is better with a good gunner and crew (not to mention fire direction center).

We may also be having an inter-branch disagreement: sounds like you were infantry, I was an artilleryman. It's been 25 years since I spent a lot of time with the firing tables but I seem to remember that the 4.2 RPEs and DPEs were greater than the 105 and 155. 175, of course had very small DPE and huge RPE, being a gun, not a howitzer or gun/howitzer. And as for the 8" howizter (203mm), I've seen batteries at Sill put inert 8" rounds through holes the size of the windows of the blockhouse on Signal Mountain.

I suppose if you're really close, the 4.2 would be handier than a 155, but IIRC, the biggest problem with 4.2s was that they are almost never as accurately located as the artillery. That may have changed now with GPS, but we always had our batteries surveyed in, and the infantry with the 4.2s were sticking pins in a map and guessing.

11 posted on 04/06/2003 10:54:21 AM PDT by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo Mesopotamiam Esse Delendam)
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