General amused by analysts - references a cow and a 'flat rock'

The Dallas Morning News ^ | April 6, 2003 | The Dallas Morning News Staff

[MeekOneGOP]

General amused by analysts

04/06/2003

From Staff Reports

WASHINGTON – Air Force Lt. Gen. Michael "Buzz" Moseley may be commander of the U.S.-British air effort over Iraq, but he was born in Grand Prairie, Texas, where plain-spokenness is a virtue.

Asked Saturday about critics of the U.S. war plan, especially the many former military officers on television, Gen. Moseley said he found it humorous.

"Retired military people from various grades, from major to general, seem to feel free to comment on a plan that they have never seen ... or have any understanding of," he said.

"I grew up in Texas, and a lot of these guys, I'm amused by the way they critique it, but in the end, it's a whole lot like listening to a cow pee on a flat rock. It just doesn't matter."

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[harpo11]

You just gotta to love the way those Texas boys talk!

Does anyone know how the good General got the name "Buzz"?

[Eric in the Ozarks]

Weeks, not months.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks. You've posted some great 'toons this morning ! :O)

[VOA]

for lurkers, the cartoon in post #39 is by Michael Ramirez, the token sane brain
(and editorial cartoonist) at The Los Angeles Times. That cartoon ran yesterday (Saturday).

An advert for new on one of the Los Angeles talk station plays a snippet from
some US military commander saying (approximately) that when he hears they
are "softening up" the Iraqi military he can hardly believe it...
"softening them up? We're KILLING them!".

(and I'm sure that like us all he'd rather the poor oppressed grunts of the Iraq
military would just give up...after "neutralizing" their Baathist propaganda officers)

[MeekOneGOP]

I did a Google Search but couldn't find anything on how he got his nickname 'Buzz'. Being Air Force . . .

LIEUTENANT GENERAL T. MICHAEL MOSELEY

LIEUTENANT GENERAL T. MICHAEL MOSELEY

Lt. Gen. T. Michael Moseley is Commander, 9th Air Force and U.S. Central Command Air Forces, Shaw Air Force Base, S.C. General Moseley’s command comprises six wings in the eastern United States, with more than 350 aircraft and 26,000 active-duty and civilian personnel. As the Air Component Commander for U.S. Central Command, the general is responsible for developing contingency plans and conducting air operations in a 25-nation area of responsibility, stretching from Kenya in eastern Africa, southward to the Seychelles Islands, and across the Arabian Peninsula and Southwest Asia to Pakistan. He is also responsible for the operational readiness of 30 9th Air Force-gained National Guard and Air Force Reserve units comprising the Air Reserve component.

General Moseley graduated from Texas A&M University in 1971 with a bachelor of arts degree, and earned a master of arts degree in 1972. He has commanded the F-15 Division of the USAF Fighter Weapons School at Nellis AFB, Nev., and the 33rd Operations Group at Eglin AFB, Fla. The general has served as the Director of Operations for Joint Task Force-Southwest Asia, and commanded the 57th Fighter Weapons Wing at Nellis AFB, the service's largest, most diverse flying wing.

General Moseley’s staff assignments have been a mix of operational, joint and personnel duties. These include serving as Director for Legislative Liaison for the Secretary of the Air Force; Deputy Director for Politico-Military Affairs for Asia/Pacific and Middle East, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Washington, D.C.; Chief of the Air Force General Officer Matters Office, Washington, D.C.; Chief of Staff of the Air Force Chair and Professor of Joint and Combined Warfare at the National War College, Washington, D.C.; and Chief of the Tactical Fighter Branch, Tactical Forces Division, Directorate of Plans, Headquarters U.S. Air Force, Washington, D.C. General Moseley is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and has been named an officer of the Ordre National du Merite by the president of the French Republic.

[xp38]

In 1961, FCC Chairman Newton Minow called television programming the vast wasteland. Marshall Mcluhan (1911-1980) coined such terms as the medium is the message and the global village.

[harpo11]

Thanks for the stats. I wouldn't be surprised that when he was a young brash pup he perhaps liked to "buzz the tower"?

I sure do like the way he does a press conference. It's more like he's doing the pressing.

[tsali1927]

Its been decases since I'vwe thought of cockleburs--- Memories of my youth

[WaterDragon]

Such precise language is expected from our brilliant, brave heroes. He does make a point. Who can listen to the military 'experts' on TV ever again without hearing the 'water' hit the rock? LOL

[solo gringo]

You better believe he is a Texan.

[Quix]

Thought maybe I'd mixed him up with someone.

Thanks.

[Quix]

CUTE!

REAL CUTE!

I think there was a nail in the barn wall that I may have tied I to on occasion.

I've done some dumb things in my time, for sure.

But milking a bull has never had any attraction for me.

I've never really known any who'd have stood still long enough, much less invited the exercise!

[AnAmericanMother]

Yes, but have you ever gotten a "fully laden" tail in the face while milking?

Lord have mercy, yes! And I had just set down my milking stool, hadn't had a chance to do anything else (the length of cotton cord was still in my belt). She got me, the milking machine, and the guy standing behind me laughing at me.

This happened on my best friend's cousins' dairy farm in St. Alban's VT. A very amazing (but exhausting) summer spent dealing with 50 aggravating head of Holsteins.

[Quix]

Oh, Goodness yes!

And when the uhhhh well contaminated cow's tail also had 2-3 cockelburs, the effect was particularly less than fun!

For some reason I have an image/memory of a yawn, a fly flying in and a tail across the open mouth all at the same time. I hope it was only a nightmare.

[Quix]

tied I to on occasion? No!

tied IT to on occasion!

The whole task tied me up quite plenty.

[browardchad]

some US military commander saying (approximately) that when he hears they are "softening up" the Iraqi military he can hardly believe it... "softening them up? We're KILLING them!".

That quote is from Mosely, also -- it was in today's paper. LOL!

[samtheman]

So true. The impatient children complain about the pace of this military campaign.

[NerdDad]

"It's raining like a cow pissing on a flat rock."

One of our family's great old friends (he was like 60-something years older than me) from Kermit TX was the first I ever heard use a form of that phrase and to quote him: "Raining like a two-c*nted cow ....." I was young enough then that I didn't know what that particular part of a cow was.

Another variation I heard though it didn't apply much in the flat-lands of West Texas had the substance rolling "down a steep hill."

[patriot5186]

lol. That story validates two cliches:
1. There's no such thing as a free ride
2. Sh*t does flow downhill.

[Mike Darancette]

Old soldiers never die, they just think that way.