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Middle Ages were warmer than today, say scientists
London Daily Telegraph ^ | 4-6-03 | Robert Matthews

Posted on 04/05/2003 7:38:26 PM PST by Prince Charles

Middle Ages were warmer than today, say scientists

By Robert Matthews, Science Correspondent

(Filed: 06/04/2003)

Claims that man-made pollution is causing "unprecedented" global warming have been seriously undermined by new research which shows that the Earth was warmer during the Middle Ages.

From the outset of the global warming debate in the late 1980s, environmentalists have said that temperatures are rising higher and faster than ever before, leading some scientists to conclude that greenhouse gases from cars and power stations are causing these "record-breaking" global temperatures.

Last year, scientists working for the UK Climate Impacts Programme said that global temperatures were "the hottest since records began" and added: "We are pretty sure that climate change due to human activity is here and it's accelerating."

This announcement followed research published in 1998, when scientists at the Climatic Research Unit at the University of East Anglia declared that the 1990s had been hotter than any other period for 1,000 years.

Such claims have now been sharply contradicted by the most comprehensive study yet of global temperature over the past 1,000 years. A review of more than 240 scientific studies has shown that today's temperatures are neither the warmest over the past millennium, nor are they producing the most extreme weather - in stark contrast to the claims of the environmentalists.

The review, carried out by a team from Harvard University, examined the findings of studies of so-called "temperature proxies" such as tree rings, ice cores and historical accounts which allow scientists to estimate temperatures prevailing at sites around the world.

The findings prove that the world experienced a Medieval Warm Period between the ninth and 14th centuries with global temperatures significantly higher even than today.

They also confirm claims that a Little Ice Age set in around 1300, during which the world cooled dramatically. Since 1900, the world has begun to warm up again - but has still to reach the balmy temperatures of the Middle Ages.

The timing of the end of the Little Ice Age is especially significant, as it implies that the records used by climate scientists date from a time when the Earth was relatively cold, thereby exaggerating the significance of today's temperature rise.

According to the researchers, the evidence confirms suspicions that today's "unprecedented" temperatures are simply the result of examining temperature change over too short a period of time.

The study, about to be published in the journal Energy and Environment, has been welcomed by sceptics of global warming, who say it puts the claims of environmentalists in proper context. Until now, suggestions that the Middle Ages were as warm as the 21st century had been largely anecdotal and were often challenged by believers in man-made global warming.

Dr Philip Stott, the professor emeritus of bio-geography at the University of London, told The Telegraph: "What has been forgotten in all the discussion about global warming is a proper sense of history."

According to Prof Stott, the evidence also undermines doom-laden predictions about the effect of higher global temperatures. "During the Medieval Warm Period, the world was warmer even than today, and history shows that it was a wonderful period of plenty for everyone."

In contrast, said Prof Stott, severe famines and economic collapse followed the onset of the Little Ice Age around 1300. He said: "When the temperature started to drop, harvests failed and England's vine industry died. It makes one wonder why there is so much fear of warmth."

The United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the official voice of global warming research, has conceded the possibility that today's "record-breaking" temperatures may be at least partly caused by the Earth recovering from a relatively cold period in recent history. While the evidence for entirely natural changes in the Earth's temperature continues to grow, its causes still remain mysterious.

Dr Simon Brown, the climate extremes research manager at the Meteorological Office at Bracknell, said that the present consensus among scientists on the IPCC was that the Medieval Warm Period could not be used to judge the significance of existing warming.

Dr Brown said: "The conclusion that 20th century warming is not unusual relies on the assertion that the Medieval Warm Period was a global phenomenon. This is not the conclusion of IPCC."

He added that there were also doubts about the reliability of temperature proxies such as tree rings: "They are not able to capture the recent warming of the last 50 years," he said.


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KEYWORDS: catastrophism; climatology; cooling; environment; gas; geology; global; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; godsgravesglyphs; greenhouse; kyoto; medieval; meteorology; paleoclimatology; study; warming
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To: Prince Charles
Picture tells the story. Viking ruins in Greenland:


41 posted on 04/05/2003 10:51:21 PM PST by Plutarch
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To: LibKill
When I was a little boy I had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse.

When I was growing up in Wisconsin we had it a lot rougher. We had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse--uphill both ways.

42 posted on 04/05/2003 10:54:50 PM PST by powderhorn
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To: blam
Thanks for the link. It was good to read those again. I needed a refresher course.
43 posted on 04/05/2003 11:17:39 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: LibKill
"When I was a little boy I had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse. "

I can appreciate that having had to walk to school in a small Iowa town (no school buses for the town folk). But at least my Mom always made sure I had my nutrition. She would never send me to school without, at least a bowl of warm oatmeal under my belt.

Made it kind of tough to walk that far with tht stuff running down my legs, but at least she meant well.

44 posted on 04/06/2003 6:01:18 AM PDT by capt. norm
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To: powderhorn
"When I was growing up in Wisconsin we had it a lot rougher. We had to walk 12 miles through the snow to the little red schoolhouse--uphill both ways."

Hey. Something fishy here.

I'm betting that the scoolhouse wasn't red...

Brown, I would believe, but red?

45 posted on 04/06/2003 6:05:23 AM PDT by capt. norm
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To: spodefly
SUVs in the middle-ages didn't have catalytic converters, so naturally things were warmer then.

People drove faster then too.

;>)




46 posted on 04/06/2003 6:13:22 AM PDT by Eaker (64,999,987 firearm owners killed no one yesterday. Somehow, it didn't make the news.)
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To: Buckhead
I often wonder why we don't point out that the Gaia hypothesis, properly understood, argues against draconian Kyoto-like interventions. The scientific theory behind it is that the earth functions as an enormously complex feedback mechanism, constantly adjusting and compensating for variations in the environment to keep conditions within the parameters neccesary for life on the planet. If true, then we shouldn't be searching for human schemes to alter the temperature; we should be seeking to discover how the planet itself is already going about it.
47 posted on 04/06/2003 6:58:19 AM PDT by xlib
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To: King David
You are right. This will do nothing to refute the hysteria stirred up leftists. They have too much at stake (funding, power, etc.)

The truth is they don't base their studies on true science, but an approach similar to that used by the evolutionists and liberal social engineers; present theories as proven fact. Repeat it enough and it becomes accepted as fact. (can you say Urban Legand?) None of these theories can be proven using a truly rigorous scientific study. Why? There is no way to conduct an experiment that will replicate the observed phenomena.

No one can create an environment that replicates all of the complex factors that impact the earth’s environment and then show that man impacts temperature change. There is no way to conduct an experiment that begins with some amino acids and allow the evolutionary process to bring forth life that over a billion years evolves into man.

This corruption of the scientific process is of the level displayed by Edgar Casey.
49 posted on 04/06/2003 8:55:35 AM PDT by Gamecock (As seen on Taglinus FreeRepublicus - 5th Edition)
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To: InterceptPoint
But unless their zeal is of "Islamic" magnitude, they shouldn't, as a quasi-religious movement, represent a threat to our way of life and standard of living.

Their zeal is at least as intense as the Islamists. Just look at the Earth 'Liberation' Front (ELF) and the Animal 'Liberation' Front (ELF) as two examples. They both espouse and have carried out violence as the means to achieve their goals.

50 posted on 04/06/2003 11:16:59 AM PDT by jimkress
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To: Prince Charles
is warm I say--Tonight, my dear--willist Thou wearest Thy thong?
51 posted on 04/06/2003 11:45:14 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Prince Charles
In the Middle Ages England was a major wine producer--hardly the case today.
52 posted on 04/06/2003 12:14:58 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: jimkress
They both espouse and have carried out violence as the means to achieve their goals.

And this puts them in the category of criminals. We have plenty of criminals and we know how to deal with them. My worry is that they will gain sufficient political clout to legitimize this sort of violence.

I don't mean to minimize the evil they represent and violence that they espouse but it is in the political realm where they are the most dangerous. There are people of power in Washington DC who will tell you that the violence is justified. That is the real danger.

53 posted on 04/06/2003 12:47:14 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint
This movement is just another arm of the Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Communist-World Socialist movement that we have to keep on killing. I thought it would die with end of the Soviet Union. A very naive assumption as it turned out.

Evil never rests. As long as man has envy, greed, and the political means to statiate both, the evil known as Liberalism (Marxist-Leninist-Stalinist-Communist-World Socialist movement) will not be killed.

54 posted on 04/06/2003 2:18:39 PM PDT by jimkress
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Could you add me to your Global Warming Hoax ping list?

Thanks!
55 posted on 04/06/2003 4:09:39 PM PDT by alwaysconservative ("All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: xlib
I often wonder why we don't point out that the Gaia hypothesis, properly understood, argues against draconian Kyoto-like interventions. The scientific theory behind it is that the earth functions as an enormously complex feedback mechanism, constantly adjusting and compensating for variations in the environment to keep conditions within the parameters neccesary for life on the planet. If true, then we shouldn't be searching for human schemes to alter the temperature; we should be seeking to discover how the planet itself is already going about it.

Excellent point! Don't hold your breath for the leftists to acknowledge it, though.

56 posted on 04/06/2003 4:18:30 PM PDT by alwaysconservative ("All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke)
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To: alwaysconservative
Sure!

You are on it now!
57 posted on 04/06/2003 4:33:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Where is Saddam?)
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To: spodefly
Bwah Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha

GOOD ONE!!!!
58 posted on 04/06/2003 5:12:53 PM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: Prince Charles
Well, let's ask Helen Thomas, afterall, she was there!
59 posted on 04/06/2003 5:15:20 PM PDT by buffyt (Can you say President Hillary, Mistress of Darkness? Me Neither!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: alwaysconservative
"Don't hold your breath for the leftists to acknowledge it, though."

I'm not. Fortunately, some research is ongoing, and the libs may soon be OBE. Here's an article about MIT climatologist Richard Lindzen's work on a theory about variations in cloud formation functioning to regulate the earth's temperature.

http://www.nature.com/nsu/010308/010308-9.html
60 posted on 04/06/2003 6:52:42 PM PDT by xlib
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