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Matt's shot in a million
The Sun ^ | Fri, Apr 4, 2003 | NICK PARKER

Posted on 04/04/2003 10:18:02 PM PST by pragmatic_asian

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Glad they're on our side. I'm think Rummy owes the Brits a little apology. I shudder to think about how things would've turned out if the US had gone it alone.
1 posted on 04/04/2003 10:18:02 PM PST by pragmatic_asian
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Rummy was just being Rummy. He was making the point that America never NEEDS allied forces to wage a war against Iraq. He said this to a snarky reporter, btw. He quickly apologized, so that the Brits knew that we WANTED them to join us. Never for one minute doubt that Rummy is fully operating from the page that Bush wants him to.
2 posted on 04/04/2003 10:21:52 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: pragmatic_asian
Obligatory quote (sorry, but it has to be done):

"Gun control is hitting your target."
3 posted on 04/04/2003 10:22:20 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: pragmatic_asian
He did not say we didn't want them..He was asked if we could go without them if they were not allowed to join us. It was one of those press briefings.Would you have preferred he said No,it's impossible without the Brits?
4 posted on 04/04/2003 10:23:59 PM PST by MEG33
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To: pragmatic_asian
What a shot!
5 posted on 04/04/2003 10:24:46 PM PST by Ymani Cricket
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To: pragmatic_asian
that's impressive!
6 posted on 04/04/2003 10:27:29 PM PST by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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To: pragmatic_asian
For those linguistically challenged by the name of Matt's town, the translation of "Betws-y-Coed" means a "prayer house in the wood". I had to pull out my book of Welsh Placenames. Damn good shot!
7 posted on 04/04/2003 10:29:39 PM PST by Myrddin
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I'm stunned....what more can I say...
8 posted on 04/04/2003 10:29:52 PM PST by Randy Larsen (Freedom is not America's gift to man, Freedom is GOD'S gift to mankind!....G.W.Bush)
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To: kstewskis
A friend once mentioned a book written by a former sniper. I think it was titled The Professional, but I'm not sure. The guy once had to assassinate someone, and he had to perform all kinds of elaborate calculations to get the shot right. Wind speed, humidity, temperature, what areas the round would fly over (concrete absorbs heat and would cause thermals to rise in daytime), etc. He hit his target...
9 posted on 04/04/2003 10:30:38 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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I would love to learn how to shoot like that.

...not that I am planning on assasinating anyone, but it would be great to understand and calculate wind, humidity, temp, ect...in its relation to bullet velocity.

10 posted on 04/04/2003 10:33:26 PM PST by kstewskis ("Aim small, miss small...." Benjamin Martin to Nathan and Samuel)
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bump
11 posted on 04/04/2003 10:33:53 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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Wow .... an English Carlos Hathcock. Nice job to the Brits all around.
12 posted on 04/04/2003 10:35:02 PM PST by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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"I would love to learn how to shoot like that."

Obviously the reporter was impressed - this "one in a million shot" happened twice - at the very same instant! It's not luck, it's training and practice. (But still AWEsome!)

13 posted on 04/04/2003 10:38:41 PM PST by geopyg
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Is this article believable when it claims a windage correction of 56 feet for a mere 800-yard shot?
14 posted on 04/04/2003 10:39:29 PM PST by the_doc
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Hey logos,

Is this story for real?
15 posted on 04/04/2003 10:40:39 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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Assuming a flight time of one second, that amounts to a transverse velocity of 38mi/hr, or about 33.4 knots. I don't know the crosswise aerodynamic coefficient of a bullet off the top of my head :) but I suppose it's *possible* in high wind. A longer flight time would mean the crosswind didn't have to be as strong, but it would have to have been fairly strong nonetheless. I'm not a sniper, so I don't know if a sniper would attempt a shot in such wind.
16 posted on 04/04/2003 10:47:09 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: MEG33
Not at all. I just said that he should apologize for slighting them even if it was unintentionally. I would've preferred that he show just a little more tact.
17 posted on 04/04/2003 10:49:10 PM PST by pragmatic_asian
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To: Windcatcher
In the desert it's not just a matter of the wind is it? Wouldn't the sand blown up have a greater affect than the trajectory of the bullet? Anyone know how fast the wind gets in Iraq?
18 posted on 04/04/2003 10:56:44 PM PST by pragmatic_asian
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Hmmm...I suppose it depends on the density of the sand. I'd expect it to retard the round's progress and cause it to drop a bit more, *if it's been stirred up*. Of course, high winds would presumably do that. It would also cause the round to take a little longer to reach its target, which would amplify the effect of any crosswind. Of course, this is all speculation; don't take it as gospel...
19 posted on 04/04/2003 11:02:08 PM PST by Windcatcher ("So what did Doug use?" "He used...sarcasm!")
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To: the_doc
It's certainly possible.

It depends on the wind.

L

20 posted on 04/04/2003 11:08:12 PM PST by Lurker ("One man of reason and goodwill is worth more, actually and potentially, than a million fools" AR)
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