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War Could Last Months, Some Military Officers Say [Thomas E. Ricks = DISCREDITED]
Washington Post ^ | Thursday, March 27, 2003 | By Thomas E. Ricks

Posted on 04/03/2003 2:37:44 PM PST by JohnHuang2

"...some senior U.S. military officers are now convinced that the war is likely to last months and will require considerably more combat power than is now on hand there and in Kuwait, senior defense officials said today....."

Snip "The combination of wretched weather, long and insecure supply lines, and an enemy that has refused to be supine in the face of American combat power has led to a broad reassessment by some top generals of U.S. military expectations and timelines."

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"More forces are coming...But it will probably take the better part of a month for that tank-heavy division to get into position and provide combat power. Other forces heading to this region, including the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, at Fort Carson, Colo., and the 1st Cavalry Division, at Fort Hood, Tex., will require months to move their tanks and other armor from their bases into combat, the defense officials said."

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"That traffic jam also has undermined Bush administration plans to quickly follow the U.S. military advance with tons of food and other humanitarian relief to win support among Iraqis. "There's tremendous fog out there," an officer said, referring to the confusion of wartime operations, with logistical commanders struggling to figure out where various supply items are in a system that at times resembles "just a bunch of guys out there driving around."

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"Overhanging all developments in the war this week is the unsettling realization that thousands of Iraqis are willing to fight vigorously."

Snip "When Army combat operations resume, major adjustments are likely in strategic goals and targets."

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"The sources said that some of the major assumptions underpinning the U.S. approach to Iraq are being discarded."

Snip "Finally, the resilience of the Medina division will be a major indicator of whether the Third Infantry Division can do the job by itself or will have to dig in and wait for help sometime in April from the Fourth Infantry Division."

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To: RobFromGa; JohnHuang2
We should be allowed a lot of "Free Kicks" to drive the heads of these leftiers up their clymer even further.

They have gotten by printing and saying out rageous mantras since the 1960/70's. Now we need to hammer and hammer their stupid mantras to show they have zero Gravitas!
21 posted on 04/03/2003 2:53:29 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Anti America Americans are outing themselves as their side loses in Iraq!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Recent Picture of Ricks
22 posted on 04/03/2003 2:53:39 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: JohnHuang2
I see we have another absolutely vrilliant strategist/tactician reporter. The simple fact is there are times when the ground pounders need a day or two to rest up before pressing on. This also gives the flyers a chance to get their licks in and then there is another burst of movement. Right now the big speculation is that the 4th Infantry division might not arrive in time to participate in the victory. I do not know but what we need to realize that anything less than 3 months is a short war. Less than three weeks is a wonderment.
23 posted on 04/03/2003 2:53:53 PM PST by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: RobFromGa; JohnHuang2
We should be allowed a lot of "Free Kicks" to drive the heads of these leftiers up their clymer even further.

They have gotten by printing and saying out rageous mantras since the 1960/70's. Now we need to hammer and hammer their stupid mantras to show they have zero Gravitas!
24 posted on 04/03/2003 2:54:07 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Anti America Americans are outing themselves as their side loses in Iraq!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Another who so desperately wants the US to lose, he falls hook, line and sinker for Pentagon disinfo.
25 posted on 04/03/2003 2:55:27 PM PST by amused (Republicans for Sharpton!)
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To: JohnHuang2
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/883553/posts

A Disinformation Strategy
The Moscow Times ^ | Apr. 3, 2003 | Pavel Felgenhauer

The Pentagon would like to thank everyone who particpated in our Information Warfare Campaign. We don't have space here to thank everyone, but some who are worthy of mention are General Wesley (Weasely) Clark, Gen Barry McCaffrey, the NY Times, the Washington comPost, ABCCNNNBCCBS and the Democratic Party, Robert Fisk, and of course Peter Arnett!

Your willingness to sacrifice your credibility is greatly appreciated.


26 posted on 04/03/2003 2:55:54 PM PST by GeorgiaYankee
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To: Grampa Dave
We should be allowed a lot of "Free Kicks" to drive the heads of these leftiers up their clymer even further.

They have gotten by printing and saying out rageous mantras since the 1960/70's. Now we need to hammer and hammer their stupid mantras to show they have zero Gravitas!

Yeah! What he said!!!

Took your Viagra early, didya' Grampa. :^)

27 posted on 04/03/2003 2:57:03 PM PST by Yankee
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To: JohnHuang2
*Snicker*

I hope we kept a list of ALL the naysayers. We need to NAME them.
28 posted on 04/03/2003 2:58:53 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Nick Danger
We're all going to know an hour from now that their guesses were no better than anyone else's guesses. We're all going to know an hour from now that their guesses were far worse than guesses made by anyone smarter than a media idiot.
29 posted on 04/03/2003 3:01:06 PM PST by Common Tator
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To: Yankee
Viagra is for liberal wimps!
30 posted on 04/03/2003 3:04:09 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Anti America Americans are outing themselves as their side loses in Iraq!)
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To: Howlin; Grampa Dave; Common Tator; GeorgiaYankee; amused; harpseal; MeeknMing; JennysCool; ...
Wait! What happened to the Operational Pause? ;)

Some U.S. Forces Delay March on Baghdad

March 29, 2003
By MATT KELLEY

WASHINGTON (AP)--Some U.S. forces have paused on their push toward Baghdad, while coalition airstrikes pounded Iraq's information ministry and a meeting of paramilitary forces whom U.S. officials blame for atrocities.

The U.S.-led coalition controls 35 percent to 40 percent of Iraq's territory and 95 percent of its airspace, the Pentagon's top general said.

But near the central Iraqi city of Najaf a suicide bomber killed several Americans on Saturday at a highway checkpoint. An Army officer said the driver of the car signaled for help and then detonated explosives as the soldiers approached.

U.S. forces continued preparations for an expected ferocious battle against Iraq's best-trained and best-equipped troops: The Republican Guard forces arrayed outside Baghdad. Airstrikes, including the first heavy combat from a helicopter unit of the 101st Airborne, continued hammering at the elite Iraqi forces to soften them up for the eventual ground campaign.

The Pentagon said Saturday the number of American deaths in the war stood at 36, of which 29 are classified as killed in action. The others were nonhostile deaths.

Some Marine units took a break on their push toward the Iraqi capital Saturday in what commanders called an ``operational pause.'' The troops worked to secure their lines of communications and wait for more of their comrades to catch up after heavier than expected attacks along the way.

Fierce combat continued in the Euphrates River crossing city of Nasiriyah, where Marines reported four troops missing Friday. U.S. military convoys and aircraft faced frequent attacks by both Iraqi troops and fighters in civilian clothes using rifles, rocket-propelled grenades and mortars.

Eight Marines remained missing from a Sunday battle near Nasiriyah in which Iraqi forces pretended to surrender but then opened fire on approaching troops, the military said. At least nine Marines were killed, officials said.

The Pentagon blames such attacks on Iraqi paramilitary forces like the Fedayeen Saddam, which Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld calls ``death squads.'' The military claimed a strike Friday on a building in the southern city of Basra where about 200 such paramilitaries had gathered.

The strike from two U.S. F-15s used bombs with a delayed fuse, which explodes after it penetrates the building, to hit the target without damaging a Christian church 300 yards away, a statement from U.S. Central Command said.

The Army's 101st Airborne Division sent out AH-64 Apache helicopters to attack Republican Guard positions south of Baghdad. Officers at the scene said the helicopters destroyed tanks, armored personnel carriers, other vehicles, a fuel depot and a communications tower.

Two of the attack helicopters were damaged when they made hard landings at their temporary base in the Iraqi desert, but no one was seriously hurt.

Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Richard Myers insisted Friday at a Pentagon briefing that fighting along key U.S. supply lines was not militarily significant. He and Rumsfeld said the push to Baghdad would not be derailed.

Rumsfeld hinted the United States had operatives working inside Baghdad and other Iraqi cities.

To underscore the message that the war is going well, Myers showed a map of Iraq detailing about 40 percent of the country that he said was no longer under Saddam's control.

The areas included Kurdish zones in the north which have been autonomous since the early 1990s, a large swath of Iraq's western desert where special operations forces have been hunting for missiles, and a triple-peaked area of southern Iraq where the Army and Marines are pushing toward the capital.

The U.S.-led coalition also has air supremacy over about 95 percent of Iraq, Myers said. The exception: The capital and Saddam's hometown of Tikrit, where surface-to-air missile sites and other air defenses have not been completely knocked out.

Coalition forces have fired more than 650 Tomahawk cruise missiles and dropped more than 5,000 precision-guided bombs on Iraq since the war started, Myers said.

A Tomahawk strike hit Iraq's Information Ministry headquarters in downtown Baghdad early Saturday, Central Command said. Footage from video cameras stationed on the building showed a bright flash and a thunderous explosion that shook masonry off nearby buildings. At midmorning, however, the ministry building appeared intact.

In Kuwait, officials said Iraq fired a missile of its own into a Kuwait City shopping mall. The missile was the first to hit the city since the United States launched its invasion of neighboring Iraq on March 20.

The coalition has used its air superiority to pound the Republican Guard, particularly elements of the Medina and Hammurabi divisions stationed to the north, west and south of Baghdad.

Myers said Republican Guard units defending the city were dug in. ``They could be consolidating to make a defense. It doesn't make any difference. The outcome is certain,'' he said.

In the north, airstrikes have focused not only on Iraqi military targets but on the positions of Ansar al-Islam, a radical armed group the United States says is linked to the al-Qaida terrorist network.

AP-NY-03-29-03 1103EST

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33 posted on 04/03/2003 3:10:07 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I wish I had stock in a chicken farm, as there a whole lot of experts and talking heads with egg on their face.
34 posted on 04/03/2003 3:15:26 PM PST by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: JohnHuang2
Burp.
35 posted on 04/03/2003 3:15:29 PM PST by Howlin
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To: Wild Irish Rogue; JohnHuang2
WIR, I was just coming back here to add your remarks from earlier today!

To: All

Don't know if these have been reported already-got them from The Corner, over at National Review :

NYTimes printed a correction, today, on the quote from Lt. Gen. William Wallace, Commander of the V Corps. When he was quoted last week, as saying " the enemy we are fighting,is not the one we war gamed against"- all hell broke out, the hand wringing leftist brigade came out of their hidey holes crying and screaming that we are in a quagmire,Rumsfeld didn't know what he was doing,etc,etc.
Well-apparently his exact quote was " The enemy we are fighting is a Bit Different from the one we war gamed against"- which changes the meaning of his comments totally.

Second bit-from the British paper,The Sun- Next time you hear a leftist say that it was because of American policies, that thousands of Iraqi children have died in the last 10 years-remind them that a huge Ba'ath Party warehouse was discovered by the 1st Battalion,Black Watch . Inside the warehouse was enough antibiotics and medical supplies to treat 10,000 Iraqi children. The Ba'ath Party has been hijacking UN medical supplies intended for the children of Iraq for years.I'm sure Daschle and the Democrats will be "shocked ".The supplies have been distributed to local clinics by the Brits.

2565 posted on 04/03/2003 2:22 PM EST by Wild Irish Rogue

36 posted on 04/03/2003 3:17:55 PM PST by Howlin
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To: JohnHuang2
Thanks !


37 posted on 04/03/2003 3:20:01 PM PST by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Saddam! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: JohnHuang2
Johnny my man, this guy is knee deep in Medina Division body parts.
38 posted on 04/03/2003 3:21:24 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: jwalsh07
lol!
39 posted on 04/03/2003 3:21:42 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
The Reality versus the left wing maggot spins:


40 posted on 04/03/2003 3:51:39 PM PST by Grampa Dave (Anti America Americans are outing themselves as their side loses in Iraq!)
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