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Friedman: Come the Revolution
The New York Times ^ | 04/02/03 | THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN

Posted on 04/01/2003 7:48:58 PM PST by Pokey78

CAIRO — To read the Arab press is to think that the entire Arab world is enraged with the U.S. invasion of Iraq, and to some extent that's true. But here's what you don't read: underneath the rage, there is also a grudging, skeptical curiosity — a curiosity about whether the Americans will actually do what they claim and build a new, more liberal Iraq.

While they may not be able to describe it, many Arabs intuit that this U.S. invasion of Iraq is something they've never seen before — the revolutionary side of U.S. power. Let me explain: For Arabs, American culture has always been revolutionary — from blue jeans to "Baywatch" — but American power, since the cold war, has only been used to preserve the status quo here, keeping in place friendly Arab kings and autocrats.

Even after the cold war ended and America supported, and celebrated, the flowering of democracy from Eastern Europe to Latin America, the Arab world was excluded. In this neighborhood, because of America's desire for steady oil supplies and a safe Israel, America continued to support the status quo and any Arab government that preserved it. Indeed, Gulf War I simply sought to drive Saddam Hussein out of Kuwait to restore the Kuwaiti monarchy and the flow of oil. Once that was done, Saddam was left alone.

And that is why Gulf War II is such a shock to the Arab system, on a par with Napoleon's invasion of Egypt or the Six-Day War. But different people are shocked in different ways.

To begin with, there is the shock of Arab liberals, still a tiny minority, who can't believe that America has finally used its revolutionary power in the Arab world. They are desperate for America to succeed because they think Iraq is too big to ignore, and therefore a real election there would shake the whole Arab region.

Second is the shock of those Arabs in the silent majority. They recognize this is the revolutionary side of U.S. power, but they see it through their own narrative, which says the U.S. is upsetting the status quo not to lift the Arab world up, but rather to put it down so it will submit to whatever America and Israel demand. That's the dominant theme in the Arab media: this war is simply another version of colonialism and imperialism. Al Jazeera uses the same terms for U.S. actions in Iraq as it does for Israeli actions in the West Bank — Iraq is under U.S. "occupation," and Iraqis killed are "martyrs."

As Raymond Stock, a longtime Cairo resident and the biographer of the novelist Naguib Mahfouz, remarked, "People here, particularly the chattering classes who watch the Arab satellite channels, are so much better misinformed than you think. The Arab media generally tells them what they want to hear and shows them what they want to see. There is a narrative that is deeply embedded, and no amount of embedded reporting from the other side will change it. Only a different Iraq can do that."

But there is a third school: Egyptian officials, who are instinctively pro-American but are shocked that the Bush team would use its revolutionary power to try to remake Iraq. Egyptian officials view this as a fool's errand because they view Iraq as a congenitally divided, tribal country that can be ruled only by an iron fist.

Whose view will be redeemed depends on how Iraq plays out, but, trust me, everyone's watching. I spent this afternoon with the American studies class at Cairo University. The professor, Mohamed Kamel, summed up the mood: "In 1975, Richard Nixon came to Egypt and the government turned out huge crowds. Some Americans made fun of Nixon for this, and Nixon defended himself by saying, `You can force people to go out and welcome a foreign leader, but you can't force them to smile.' Maybe the Iraqis will eventually stop resisting you. But that will not make this war legitimate. What the U.S. needs to do is make the Iraqis smile. If you do that, people will consider this a success."

There is a lot riding on that smile, Mr. Kamel added, because this is the first "Arab-American war." This is not about Arabs and Israelis. This is about America getting inside the Arab world — not just with its power or culture, but with its ideals. It is a war for what America stands for. "If it backfires," Mr. Kamel concluded, "if you don't deliver, it will really have a big impact. People will not just say your policies are bad, but that your ideas are a fake, you don't really believe them or you don't know how to implement them."

In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.   


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: arabstreet; egypt; iraqifreedom; postwariraq; ramonstock; raymondstock; raystock; thomaslfriedman; worldopinion
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1 posted on 04/01/2003 7:48:58 PM PST by Pokey78
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To: Pokey78
In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.

Well, we'd better keep the UN out of it then.

Prairie

2 posted on 04/01/2003 7:54:09 PM PST by prairiebreeze (God Bless and Protect the Allied Troops. And the families here at home---they are soldiers too.)
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To: Pokey78
This is about America getting inside the Arab world — not just with its power or culture, but with its ideals.

I realise this is Thomas Friedman, but I think he's at least partly right. This war is not just about removing Saddam as a terrorist threat and a tyrant to the Iraqi people. It really is about changing the whole Arab world, one country at a time. And I hope to God it succeeds.

3 posted on 04/01/2003 7:57:07 PM PST by giotto
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To: Heuristic Hiker
Ping
4 posted on 04/01/2003 7:58:00 PM PST by Utah Girl
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To: prairiebreeze
Watching the "The Pink Panther Strikes Again" on TCM now.

Dreyfus is about to destroy the UN building.

5 posted on 04/01/2003 7:58:07 PM PST by Ken H
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To: Pokey78
BUmp
6 posted on 04/01/2003 8:05:11 PM PST by TEXOKIE
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To: Pokey78
In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.

NY Times code for--'We should elect a democrat next time.,

7 posted on 04/01/2003 8:19:08 PM PST by San Jacinto
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To: giotto
I agree. Tom Friedman knows more about the Arab world than just about anyone. It is critical that the post war peace go well,,if it does we have a chance of truly changing the world for the better. GWB is taking a courageous stand here.
8 posted on 04/01/2003 8:21:02 PM PST by cajungirl (no)
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To: Pokey78
The professor, Mohamed Kamel, summed up the mood: "In 1975, Richard Nixon came to Egypt and the government turned out huge crowds. Some Americans made fun of Nixon for this, and Nixon defended himself by saying, `You can force people to go out and welcome a foreign leader, but you can't force them to smile.

I wonder if anyone calls him "Joe"?

9 posted on 04/01/2003 8:22:33 PM PST by fhayek
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To: Pokey78

I don't know if this can be done either, but I believe that Bush seriously intends to try. He perceives this kind of 'democratic revolution' throughout the Arab world to be the only long-term solution to the problem of Islamic terrorism. I think he's right.

So long as those people perceive their lives to be frustrating and worthless, they will be easy marks for the Mullahs who want to incite them to violence. But so long as they live under these despots who live in grand palaces while condemning their populations to grinding poverty and political repression, nothing will ever change. It's time to end the Feudal Era in the Middle East. Serfs up!


10 posted on 04/01/2003 8:33:14 PM PST by Nick Danger (More rallys planned! www.freerepublic.net)
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To: prairiebreeze
Re: Well, we'd better keep the UN out of it then.

You asked for it!





I aim to please! Thanks, Scotty.

"My pleasure."

11 posted on 04/01/2003 8:40:42 PM PST by sonofatpatcher2 (Love & a .45-- What more could you want, campers? };^)
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To: prairiebreeze
In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.

WeE DID NOT START A WAR. WE (FINALLY) RESPONDED TO A SUSTAINED & QUITE HOSTILE IRAQI BREACH OF THE GULF WAR CEASE-FIRE.

12 posted on 04/01/2003 8:43:12 PM PST by dodger
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To: Pokey78
Tom Freidman probably goes home at night and dresses in drag to be just like his mentor, Madeline "I kiss dictators" Albright. What a loser. His opinion is worth, whoops, I've said too much already.

V


13 posted on 04/01/2003 8:44:31 PM PST by Beck_isright (If Susan Sarandon pooped in the woods, would ELF boycott her?)
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To: cajungirl
"Tom Friedman knows more about the Arab world than just about anyone."

Sorry to flame you but....
Anyone who proclaims Yassir Arafart as a "great leader" of his people like Freakman has, is a total loser. His knowledge of the Middle East is based on having his lips permanently grafted on to the likes of Ramsey Clark and James Earl Carter; one butt cheek for each lip. Please, this man has liberal "credentials". If we followed his advice in the real world, 9-11 would have looked like Hiroshima 10 times over.

V


14 posted on 04/01/2003 8:46:52 PM PST by Beck_isright (If Susan Sarandon pooped in the woods, would ELF boycott her?)
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To: Pokey78
more liberal Iraq.

I wish he meant Liberated Iraq, but knowing him, he probably means just what he said.

15 posted on 04/01/2003 8:50:02 PM PST by ladyinred
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To: Pokey78
In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.

In other words, Friedman sort of agrees that what Bush is doing is the right thing, but he can't openly admit it for some condescending reason, so he has to throw in a small barb at Bush at the end of the article. C'mon Tom, if American power is being used in a "revolutionary" manner (and I think it is), and stasists are against it (which they are), why doesn't he take a much dimmer of view of other countries' obstructionism--if Friedman believes his own narrative, Chiraq and Putin are reactionaries--why instead does he blame Bush for their bad attitudes?

17 posted on 04/01/2003 8:50:54 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Pokey78
In short, we need to finish the peace better than we started the war.

Friedman sliding toward Krugmansville.

19 posted on 04/01/2003 8:53:47 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: Pokey78
FINALLY THE OBVIOUS IS COMING OUT!!! LET'S HEAR IT FOR THE LEFT FOR PULLING THEIR HEADS OUT OF THEIR A$$E$!!!

These guys get paid to be slower than turds, and these dudes like Friedman and Hersche are very, very, very, stupid, clueless, or America haters or a combination of all three. The only thing they have is a well organized method of communication and a monopoly on the press...which hopefully will end with the internet...God these people are slow to report the truth of mankinds basic nature.

20 posted on 04/01/2003 8:54:41 PM PST by Porterville (Screw the grammar, full posting ahead.)
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