Posted on 04/01/2003 12:38:30 AM PST by FairOpinion
Edited on 07/12/2004 4:02:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
I have been a card-carrying liberal Democrat all my life, and proud of it. I've always believed that one of the great foundation blocks of liberalism is that we are committed to helping those who cannot help themselves. From Selma, Ala., to Capetown, South Africa, liberals have been at the forefront of the war against racism. From the picking fields of Florida, to support for Mothers of the Missing, liberals have waged war against the oppression of children.
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You've been here for a while, yet post lefty propaganda ( Bush is fighting this war for the " wrong " reasons ) and imply that you have an " open mind " and " consider " all points of view " ? LOL
You admit that you " consider " ( sophistry and solophistic; not to mention hubristic ) a wee bit of the posts, but dismiss it, out of hand , sneeringly, smarmily, and pompously. Open minded ? Your mind is so bloody open, all of your brains, long ago, fell out. Yes, that IS a personal attack ! Sooooooooo , what are you going to do about it mate ?
Get lost !
Democrats don't. They are very closed minded and intolerant.
Is there a difference anymore?
It's not an off the cuff wisecrack. I remarked to a friend during a discussion that in WWII, there were still Democrats that supported this country and the Constitution. Since then, the Left has become closer to the Communist Left and less like the Classic Liberal ( as Jeffersonian democracy is often referred). The Democratic party has mounted a long range, long running attack against all remaining Constitutional guarantees - like freedom to bear arms, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, press, a constitutionally restrained federal government - fought against a free-market, agaisnt capitalism, and has fought to institute a socialist state.
Where are these members of the Left that still ascribe to any of the princibles of the Founders?
I don't think they remain. The Leftism of Communism and Socialism, antithematic to our constitutional democracy, have taken over the American left during this century.
As surely as a dog returns to its vomit, out it comes.
You joined during our presidential primary season. Yes, the various factions were at each others' throats.The worst , of the rabid thrashers were banned. Once President Bush was elected president,all but the most fanatic fringers, have backed him. This doesn't mean that all of us agree 100% with everything OUR president does / says. OTOH, no bloody Aussie has any " right " to Bushbash; especially NOT here ! The owners of this site, by-theby, dear, do NOT take kindly to Bushbashing. FR has changed, sonce I joined. It's been invaded by trash, like you.
Like any Liberal, you're sorry, sorry that you've been caught and called out. And yes, yes indeedy, the problem, such as it is, is ALL your's. ; ^ )
Bob Beckel, you're a flipping idiot.
Our primary purpose in Iraq doesn't have a damn thing to do with "helping those who cannot help themselves", nor is to free the Iraqi people from "the most vicious dictator since Hitler". It is a war on terrorism and this campaign in Iraq has only one primary goal and that is to rid America of one more state sponsor of terrorism.
For 25 years, America has turned the other cheek and "given peace a chance" and all we got for our efforts were dozens of acts of war upon this country, culminating with the infamy of September 11.
Make no mistake, this is a war on terrorism, no matter whether it is called Al Qaida, Hizbollah, Hamas, Islamic Jihad or PLO. And the single most important fact to understand about Middle Eastern terrorism is that 100% of it is state sponsored. There is simply no viable alternative to conquering those terrorist sponsoring states.
If the ideas of leftist fools like Bob Beckel ever gain respectability in this country and this war changes to one of "feel good" strategy that subordinates the fight against terrorism to "helping people", "freeing people" or "nation building", then this war is lost and with it too, America.
--Boot Hill
Agreed. But what he fails to admit is why so many of his liberal democrat friends are against the liberation of Iraq. It's because a republican is in the White House and partisan politics trumps national security.
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