Why do Dems oppose war?

The Washington Times ^ | Bob Beckel

[FairOpinion]

I have been a card-carrying liberal Democrat all my life, and proud of it. I've always believed that one of the great foundation blocks of liberalism is that we are committed to helping those who cannot help themselves. From Selma, Ala., to Capetown, South Africa, liberals have been at the forefront of the war against racism. From the picking fields of Florida, to support for Mothers of the Missing, liberals have waged war against the oppression of children.

[FairOpinion]

Note, this was written by a self proclaimed liberal Democrat, and he is bringing up some good points.

The only answer to the question he raises, is that the opponents of war are NOT liberals, but a bunch of America hating leftists, calling themselves liberals.

[MEG33]

He got his usual licks in about Bush but he's right on about the war.

[kcvl]

Bob Beckel, a political analyst who managed Walter Mondale's 1984 presidential campaign, paid a woman $300 per hour tovisit his home on June 27 and 29. Days later, he found a note on his car and a message on his answering machine demanding money and threatening to release evidence of the woman's visits to his family and the media, according to a search warrant filed Aug. 26 in Alexandria Circuit Court.

[frosty snowman]

The Dems oppose it because they are envious that Bush is running the war instead of their guy. If the war happened under a democrat administration it would be touted as a victory for human rights, and the media would be playing right along.

[sadimgnik]

Bob Beckel, a political analyst who managed Walter Mondale's 1984 presidential campaign, paid a woman $300 per hour tovisit his home on June 27 and 29. Days later, he found a note on his car and a message on his answering machine demanding money and threatening to release evidence of the woman's visits to his family and the media, according to a search warrant filed Aug. 26 in Alexandria Circuit Court.

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and your point is?

Sadim

[Roscoe]

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/beckel1.html

[kcvl]

I wasn't making a point. DUH! Just an FYI for anyone interested which obviously you weren't so ignore it.

[sonofatpatcher2]

"They're Democrats, Jim."

[kcvl]

ROFLOL!

[sadimgnik]

The Dems oppose it because they are envious that Bush is running the war instead of their guy. If the war happened under a democrat administration it would be touted as a victory for human rights, and the media would be playing right along.

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Hmmm. Perhaps.

And perhaps Republicans would be opposing it, as 'Klinton trying to divert attention from (name your cause celebre here)"

Unfortunately, this war has become a political battlefield .. but it was always going to be one.

Regards

Sadim

Oh, and in case I am accused of hypocrisy, I again spell out my position: I am a liberal who opposes your president and my prime minister .. but who supports war on Saddam Hussein (mostly for the reasons outlined in the article above).

I fear we are fighting the right war, for the wrong reasons ... but the net result will still be the removal of an evil dictator who needs removing.

[Roscoe]

Her pimp was named Abdullah Hamid. Hmmmm.

[nopardons]

Why, as a LIBERAL, are you on a CONSERVATIVE forum ?

You aren't an American and the bloody hell, with your opinion of my president !

[FairOpinion]

"I fear we are fighting the right war, for the wrong reasons ... "
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We are fighting this war for MANY reasons, but the bottom line is fight it now and win, or fight it later, after many more people died ( in Iraq and perhaps in the US and elsewhere).

Even as a liberal, you can't be oblivious to Saddam's atrocities.

[truth_seeker]

"I fear we are fighting the right war, for the wrong reasons ... but the net result will still be the removal of an evil dictator who needs removing."

What are the "right" reasons, for you? (I'm simply asking-not making a smart comeback)

[frosty snowman]

Okay, I agree with you it is always political. Just pointing out that the rationale given by Democrats would be different, and the media reaction would be VERY different. Anyway, that is a 'what if' scenario and is purely hypothetical at this point.

[Radix]

Why do Dems oppose war?

I think they are afraid that we might win.

[driftless]

Fair enough. Welcome to the forum.

[sadimgnik]

The right reasons? Because Saddam is a dictator who oppresses his people .. who thoroughly deserves his moniker, "the butcher of baghdad".

The wrong reasons? Some sort of wooly-headed warm-and-fuzzy revenger for September 11 - when there appears to be no logical nexus between the two events.

NB: I'm not saying we shouldn't hunt down and kill all those responsible for September 11 - or Bali.

We should. Coldly, methodically, and until the vermin are all exterminated.

But THIS war ... the one against Saddam Hussein ... is muddying those waters, and making the job harder.

Sadim

[LiberationIT]

Many Liberals oppose the war because the only significant input to the development of their political philosophy came from listening to Beatles, PP&M and Dylan tunes. Critical, objective thought was not then, and is not now, a tool they successfully use.

[Roscoe]

But THIS war ... the one against Saddam Hussein ... is muddying those waters, and making the job harder.

Our enemies will learn to fear us. The lessons have begun.