Posted on 03/31/2003 8:29:43 AM PST by Smogger
I did not get my history wrong. We had been blessed with a cordial, indeed friendly relationship with the Hawaiian people and monarachy. Congress, and the President never authorized the seizure of Hawaii during Cleveland's administration, so as a matter of imperial policy, it wasn't there.
Indeed, Grover Cleveland was all set to return the throne back to the Queen after investigating the matter, concluding the diplomat who had exceeded his authority and wrongly conspired with the ranchers and sugar plantations to subvert the throne. He fired said minister. He pulled the treaty back from the Senate. He, apologized to her, and was ready to put the queen back in power, if she would agree to let bygones be bygones. She foolishly refused. Hence she gave him no choice but to sit on his hands. And then the next president, Wm McKinley, did do the annexation, as the alternatives were worse at that point.
I like how Grover Cleveland summarized the final state of affairs with the Queen of Hawaii:
Actuated by these desires and purposes,and not unmindful of the inherent perplexities of the situation nor of the limitations upon my power, I instructed Minister Willis to advise the Queen and her supporters of my desire to aid in the restoration of the status existing before the lawless landing of the United States forces at Honolulu on the 16th of January last, if such restoration could be effected upon terms providing for clemency as well as justice to all parties concerned. The conditions suggested, as the instructions show, contemplate a general amnesty to those concerned insetting up the provisional government and a recognition of all its bona fide acts and obligations. In short, they require that the past should be buried, and that the restored Government should reassume its authority as if its continuity had not been interrupted. These conditions have not proved acceptable to the Queen, and though she has been informed that they will be insisted upon, and that, unless acceded to, the efforts of the President to aid in the restoration of her Government will cease, I have not thus far learned that she is willing to yield them her acquiescence. The check which my plans have thus encountered has prevented their presentation to the members of the provisional government, while unfortunate public misrepresentations of the situation and exaggerated statements of the sentiments of our people have obviously injured the prospects of successful Executive mediation.
Mama's boy Gads, how much steam did it take for you to come up with that one? Did you have to look or did your grandson help you? The only thing stupidier is the emails you're sending me...glad to know you can string curse words into one long string...however pointless. Bet you wear plad high water pants too.... What, you gonna tell me my grandmother wore combat boots? Well she did and she was a sniper too, your point? REMF...get a life and get over your serious inferiority complex. Just live up to the fact that you spent the overwhelming majority of your life shuffling papers, filling forms on form flow and doing power point slides while only reading about real men in Army Times and Stars and Stripes.
But that's irrelevant since you miss the key to America. We can take almost anybody and make them an American. All Russia can do with other people is call them foreigners, no matter how long they live with you. You foolishly think that because someone comes from Mexico or Asia that means they don't count as an American.
Funny, but your birth rates are still way behind your death rates. Even you should be able to grasp that your population won't grow if 16 people die for every 9 born.
Sadly, the only thing Russia leads in today is oil and Michael Jackson's favorite type of porn.
You have no concept what so ever. Russia is the home to 180 ethnic groups and has another 100 or so ethnic groups as immigrants. There are africans walking the streets of Russian cities and intermarring with Russians. Russians in the north are blond, in the south dark skinned. We mix with everyone. I have 9 ethnic groups in my blood lines...and that's only 5 generations back. There are blond orientals walking around, and they don't bleach their hair...called mixing and on the passports there is no nationality anymore, only citizenship...people are asked for demographics...what nationality do you feel yourself to be. There are no African-Russians, Irish-Russians, German-Russians, Chinese-Russians...but there are African-Americans, etc.
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