***Operation Iraqi Freedom - Situation Room - Day 12 - LIVE THREAD***

Multiple ^ | March 31st, 2003 | Various

[An.American.Expatriate]

Good Morning.

Welcome to the Situation Room of Operation Iraqi Freedom - LIVE THREAD.

It is designed for general conversation about the events of the day. In depth discussion of events should be left to individual threads - but links to the threads or other articles is highly encouraged. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information.

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Mhking's links:

Updated links (Null and Void alphabetized them and found a few other interesting ones):

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To all who helped this get started, thank you!

Special thanks to null and void for keeping these threads running on the weekends, Mo1 for the screamer, the AdminMods for their tolerance, mhking for the video links, and, of course,...

[Mr.Crimson]

Not with agitators like you *S*

[texxie]

lol moi an agitator???

if they only knew:)

[Poser]

Good night all. I'll be back with a big damned cup of coffee in the morning. Keep Belly Girl warm for me.

[Centurion2000]

bump ....

[Mr.Crimson]

Definite Disarray! Hopefully the implosion of the Dem party will continue until its nothing but a worthless pile of rubble....its already worthless...but not yet rubble

[texxie]

nite

[Mr.Crimson]

Mmmmm that innocent thing isnt working, young lady

[texxie]

I can't wait to see that

they imploded after the 88 elections the lost the presidency election and many state houses and governorships and they lost congress and finally now both houses

they have moved so far to the left the middle might desert them it will be interesting to watch this all play out

[texxie]

lol ruh roh

[Mr.Crimson]

I truly agree the in fighting between whats left of the Centerists and the extremes definitely proves that point. Perhaps we will see a new independent party and those like Daschle and Kennedy will be filibusting themselves out of a job.

[Scott from the Left Coast]

the media was in total melt-down in Afghanistan also, saying it was another quagmire, etc. - just before it all rapidly came together

What you describe here is pretty much the pattern of ALL wars. Resistence will slow advances while it can be maintained, but once the enemy suffers attrition to the point that equipment and/or supply can no longer resist the constant, steady pressure maintained by the attacker, they crack suddenly and the entire defense crumbles.

We arrived some days ago at the place where Iraq presents its resistence to the advance (essentially: the RG front lines), about 50 miles from Baghdad. Steady and constant pressure will be applied to that resistence through tactical maneuver and engagement, and of course air power. That resistence will hold at that point until it suffers enough attrition, or depravation of supply, that it suddently and quicky, without warning, collapses. If there is not a second line of defense, then the collapse will be total.

[Consort]

nobody is paying attention to them right now

And that is the environment where evil thrives. It reminds me of the move Ship Of Fools.

nobody is paying attention to them right now

[Centurion2000]

At the moment, I think the chicken embryo cannons are standing by, locked and loaded.

What exactly does this mean ? The only thing that comes to mind is a smallpox bioweapon.

[Mr.Crimson]

You have agitation written all over you

[texxie]

the polarization is terrible in both houses between the parties

there are fewer and fewer willing to work together to get anything done same thing here in CA in Sacto

the best thing to happen would be just that - both parties work best from the middle when they stray too far on either side this is what always happens

[Mr.Crimson]

Rack it! That is a great post and I think you are right on target with your analysis...

[Alamo-Girl]

That makes perfect sense! Thank you!

[texxie]

I always pay attention to what they do

the war is keeping most eyes off what is going on with them it's not helping them figure anything out anyway they are going to disintegrate or implode

[texxie]

I do? and I'll never tell:)

[merrin]

Either A) Rummy et al. have majorly funked this war thing up, and its truly in disarray and are trying to cover it up and make things up as they go along, or B) the "Media" is doing a major meltdown and has gotten the "jist" of things totally wrong and will have MAJOR egg on their faces in a few months.

That's a false dichotomy.

No doubt the media are going to look really stupid with their "Vietnam" and "quagmire" nonsense. However, just because we're going to win doesn't mean Rumsfeld did everything right. Ralph Peters, for example, has been scathing in his criticism of Rumsfeld's military planning (though not his leadership), but has no doubt that we'll win the war.