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1 posted on 03/30/2003 8:48:40 PM PST by Exton1
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Fly the flag

Flush the yellow
2 posted on 03/30/2003 8:55:58 PM PST by Conservababe
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Freep these MF's on our tax dime. They do Our Will


3 posted on 03/30/2003 9:01:01 PM PST by nanomid
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Socialist liberals need to learn one thing, they're not the only ones involved in mass media now. We can get our news, communicate, and act via the internet.
4 posted on 03/30/2003 9:01:50 PM PST by Lijahsbubbe
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To all Country music fans!!! Join the Chicagoland Dixie Chicks Freep.
May 29 and 30 2003 Stay tuned for details.

Boycott the Dixie Chicks and hear a fabulous Country music concert at the same time!!
Together we can Shut them up! AND Support or troops at the same time!
6 posted on 03/30/2003 9:08:28 PM PST by chicagolady
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I have a problem with this. What happens now when some organization which we do not consider on our good list - decides they have a right to hang their stuff all over the city's trees - are we going to be so supportive - ???

Or ... is this just because of the troops - if so, then why not hang red/white/blue ribbons instead.
8 posted on 03/30/2003 9:09:57 PM PST by CyberAnt
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**Regretful employees of the city's Public Works Department returned the hundreds of feet of ribbon to Freeman, but angry residents then jammed City Hall phones and harangued council members over the incident.**

BTTT!
13 posted on 03/30/2003 9:26:29 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Hear Hear, good work by all the Freepers who take action on behalf of furthering the conservative cause. As for the Freepers who come on to activist threads and take pot shots at the suggested action without offering a constructive alternative, they obviously have taken a page from Daschle when it comes to obstructionism.
24 posted on 03/30/2003 11:56:37 PM PST by jagrmeister
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Given all the latest controversy regarding yellow ribbons, I'm posting a bit of history that shows:

#1. The "yellow ribbon" stems from a Western cultural tradition tracing back several hundred years, NOT just back to the later Tony Orlando and Dawn song about a prisoner.

#2. The tradition means specifically "parted loved ones" or "parted lovers". All later uses stemmed from that concept whether the loved one was in jail, overseas fighting a war, or just parted by circumstance.

It's one of our historical traditions and can be meaningful to Americans right now who wish to observe it.




Why Do We Put Up Yellow Ribbons During Wars? (posted 3-28-03)

Cecil Adams, writing for the website, StraightDope.com (March 2003):


Yellow ribbons first emerged as a national symbol in January 1981, when they sprouted like weeds to welcome home the Americans held hostage in Iran. The whole thing was started by Penelope (Penne) Laingen, wife of Bruce Laingen, U.S. charge d'affaires in Teheran. Ms. Laingen says she was inspired by two things: (1) the song "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree," written in 1972 by Irwin Levine and Larry Brown and made famous by Tony Orlando and Dawn, and (2) the prior example of one Gail Magruder. Ms. Laingen writes:
"Gail Magruder, wife of Jeb Stuart Magruder of Watergate fame, put yellow ribbons on her front porch to welcome her husband home from jail. This event was televised on the evening news.

"At this point ... I stepped in to change the legend and song from the return of a forgiven prodigal to the return of an imprisoned hero. Interestingly, I had remembered the Gail Magruder ribbons, but I had only a vague understanding of the Levine-Brown song lyrics, although I knew it involved a 'prisoner,' which my husband surely was in Iran."

Penne's aim, and that of the other hostage families she was in contact with, was to keep public attention focused on the prisoners. Various ideas had been proposed or tried early on, including asking people to turn on their porch and car lights, honk their horns, ring church bells, display the flag, wear Vietnam-type POW bracelets, etc. But none of these schemes proved satisfactory.

Finally Penne hit on yellow ribbons. She hung one made from yellow oilcloth on an oak tree in her front yard in December 1979, and mentioned it to a Washington Post reporter who was doing a story on how hostage families were dealing with stress. The reporter described what Penne had done in her article and yellow ribbons soon were appearing nationwide. When the buildup for the Persian Gulf war began the ribbons appeared anew and now appear to be firmly established as a symbol of solidarity with distant loved ones in danger.

OK, but where did the song "Tie a Yellow Ribbon Round the Ole Oak Tree" come from? At this point the ribbon story starts to get a little tangled.

Larry Brown claimed he heard the returning-convict story on which the song was based in the army. Apparently it was a widely circulated urban legend--so widely circulated, in fact, that it got the songwriters into a bit of hot water. New York Post writer Pete Hamill had related the story in a 1971 column with a few different details--for one thing, the convict told his story not to a bus driver but to some college students headed for Fort Lauderdale.

Hamill claimed he'd heard the story from one of the students, a woman he'd met in Greenwich Village. He sued Brown and Levine for stealing his work, but the defense turned up still earlier versions of the tale (Penne Laingen quotes a version from a book published in 1959) and the suit was dropped.

A big difference in many of the earlier stories was that the centerpiece wasn't a yellow ribbon, it was a white ribbon or kerchief. But Levine claimed "white kerchief" wouldn't fit the meter, so yellow ribbon it became. In addition to being trochaic, yellow seemed "musical and romantic," he reportedly said.

But it wasn't quite that simple. The 1949 John Wayne movie She Wore a Yellow Ribbon featured a hit song of the same name, and the line appears in a 1961 Mitch Miller songbook. A source who knows Brown and Levine says they (or at least Levine) privately admit they got the concept of yellow ribbons from the 1949 song.

The movie tune was a rewrite of a song copyrighted in 1917 by George A. Norton titled Round Her Neck She Wears a Yellow Ribbon (For Her Lover Who Is Fur, Fur Away). This in turn was apparently based on the popular 1838 minstrel-show song All Round My Hat (surely you remember it), which sported the line, "All round my hat I [w]ears a green willow [because] my true love is far, far away." Doesn't scan (or parse) very well, which no doubt explains the switch to yellow ribbons in the twentieth century. Songs with green willows and distant lovers go back at least to 1578.

It's interesting that the ribbons and willows in these songs simply serve as a reminder of a distant loved one, since that's pretty much the only significance of yellow ribbons today. There is no suggestion of the returning prodigal such as we find in the Levine-Brown song, or even of imprisonment, as was the case during the Iran hostage crisis. So I guess we can say that yellow ribbons do have some grounding in tradition, although it's ribbons rather than green willows chiefly as a metrical convenience.

Contrary to popular belief, there is no indication that yellow ribbons had any symbolic value during the American Civil War. The notion that they did stems from the aforementioned John Wayne movie, which featured soldiers in Civil War-era uniforms.

http://hnn.us/articles/480.html#yellow3-28-03



25 posted on 03/31/2003 12:03:38 AM PST by Tamzee ("Sabotage" and "Charade"....no French translation necessary.)
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What a stupid argument.
26 posted on 03/31/2003 12:10:43 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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You betcha freeping works. Ask Peter Arnett!
41 posted on 03/31/2003 11:37:56 PM PST by ladyinred
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Great stuff! All Freepers should be PROUD! We are the ones who have been on the side of truth and justice, even though we frequently disagree on various issues.

It takes courage to stand up for the truth! Even if it's not convenient.

46 posted on 04/10/2003 10:59:16 PM PDT by Dec31,1999 (Freedom is not free, but rather, must be paid for.)
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