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U.S. Troops Meet Iraqis Peacefully
The New York Times (Believe it or not) ^ | March 30, 2003 | Dexter Filkins

Posted on 03/30/2003 8:40:44 PM PST by John H K

DIWANIYA, Iraq, March 30 — The first Iraqis walked in off the plains at sunrise, a group of nomads with their camels in tow. Then came a young farmer, bearing a white flag.

"I have come to get water," said the man, Khalid Juwad, staring into the rifles of several young marines. "I am willing to cooperate."

And so the Americans lowered their guns, and Mr. Juwad walked across the front lines, becoming one of the first Iraqis to meet American soldiers here in something other than combat.

With so much of the American effort spent racing across empty deserts, the war has so far only rarely brought American soldiers and Iraqi civilians together peacefully.

Today, that began to change, when Mr. Juwad and more than a dozen other Iraqis, cut off from their homes by several days of fighting, came out of their hiding places in the plains east of here. Thirsty and bedraggled, they said they had decided to test the American assurance that their invasion is a benevolent one.

Mr. Juwad had a very specific request. He wanted to turn on his irrigation pump, which was behind the American lines, to water his barley fields.

"Sure, I think we can turn your pump on," said Maj. Mark Stainbrook, a United States marine.

After so many days of fighting, the scene that played out here seemed, just possibly, to offer the promise of better things to come.

With Iraqi fighters increasingly employing guerrilla tactics, American soldiers face a growing burden of separating the Iraqi civilians they want to help from the Iraqi fighters they want to defeat.

The encounter today between the marines and the Iraqi farmers seemed to suggest that such a distinction, though fraught with difficulty, might might be successfully made.

Mr. Juwad and his family live in Hamza, a village on the other side of Highway 1, the road that bisects the area here on its way to Baghdad. On the same highway rest several thousand American soldiers, who have stopped here after driving 200 miles from Kuwait.

As Mr. Juwad waited for the soldiers to gather the tools needed to jump-start his pump, he expounded on his place in the Iraqi nation. As a follower of the Shia branch of Islam, Mr. Juwad said, he knew firsthand the evils of Saddam Hussein, a Sunni Muslim. He began a chorus of denunciations.

"Saddam has given us nothing, only suffering," said Mr. Juwad, with his cousin, Raad, nodding in assent. Mr. Juwad said he had four uncles who were in Mr. Hussein's jails, and he said he had deserted from the Iraqi Army three times in recent years.

"If the Americans want to get rid of Saddam, that's O.K. with me," he said. "The only thing that would bother me is if they don't finish the job. Then Saddam will come back, like he did in 1991."

Mr. Juwad, a 22-year-old father of one, thinks his views are shared by the majority of Iraqis living nearby, including the people in this nearest city. The resistance against the American forces here, he said, came from militias created in the days before the American invasion.

Mr. Juwad said the militia leaders had come from Baghdad and dragooned as many as 3,000 local people into military service. His account could not be independently confirmed.

Mr. Juwad's opinions appeared to be shared by the other Iraqis who live and work in the fields near Highway 1. A pair of Western reporters who walked two miles from the American base found themselves greeted warmly and invited into the homes of Iraqis they had passed along the way.

"The Arab people treat their guests well," said Abu Hamid, a farmer who invited a reporter and a photographer into his tent. "Americans are more than guests."

Yet whether the good will evident here can be nurtured by the American military is another matter. There were signs today that the sprawling military contingent moving northward through Iraq may be too focused on matters of war to do much in the way of winning over the Iraqis.

When Mr. Juwad came to the American front lines for water, for instance, his every movement was watched through the gunsights of American soldiers. When he said he wanted to cross the highway to get to his village, where his wife and children, who did not know what had happened to him, were, he was told no. When Mr. Juwad inquired about being reimbursed for his car, which was hit by a tank shell in the battle on Tuesday, he was told not to expect much.

"There is a war going on now," Major Stainbrook told him.

In sweeps through the area, marines handcuffed one of Mr. Juwad's brothers, Ahmed, and detained him for about an hour. They questioned him about his links to Iraq's power structure and his knowledge of Iraqi military activity. In a country where detention at the hands of the authorities can often mean torture or death, Ahmed seemed grateful that he had not been mistreated.

"The Americans were very nice," he said.

As Mr. Juwad entered and departed the American camp, Cobra gunships shadowed his moves and armored cars drove alongside.

One of the American soldiers coming out to greet Mr. Juwad carried a device called a "phraselator," a small computer that barks out stock Arabic phrases like, "Do you speak English?" and "I need to search your car." The phraselator speaks, but it does not translate Iraqi replies into English.

Still, for all the clumsiness of the American approach, there was good will that did not go unappreciated.

The marines who greeted Mr. Juwad had promised to help him start his irrigation pump, and start it they did. Major Stainbrook lifted two batteries from American Humvees and hooked them up to Mr. Juwad's pump. After several tries, the Russian-built machine kicked, sputtered and roared, finally flooding the canals that water the fields.

The American help, it seemed, gave Mr. Juwad a moment of relief in a difficult week.

"All I wanted was to get some water from my canal," he said.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: actsofkindness; embeddedreport; iraq; iraqicivilians; iraqifreedom; nomads; phraselator; water
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I've seen Filkins do some phone in reports to one of the networks, I'm surprised the NYT hasn't gotten rid of him yet, as he seems rather unbiased and a just-the-facts guy.

Increasingly obvious the resistance is Iraq is a fairly small (relatively) but fanatical, and often not well-trained, population of Saddam Fedayeen with a sprinkling of RG. They are usually NOT local to the areas they're operating in, and the lack of cheering crowds is fear of those guys, and fear that the Coalition troops won't stick around.

Probably a disappointment to the FR "Nuke all them Mooslems in Iraq flat" crowd, though.

Hilarious that Saddam is so bad, even getting detained by US forces is good PR for us, because we don't torture and kill and people are pleasantly surprised.

1 posted on 03/30/2003 8:40:44 PM PST by John H K
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"A pair of Western reporters who walked two miles from the American base found themselves greeted warmly and invited into the homes of Iraqis they had passed along the way."

They could have just as easily found themselves dead or worse.
2 posted on 03/30/2003 8:46:40 PM PST by linear
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To: John H K
Probably a disappointment to the FR "Nuke all them Mooslems in Iraq flat" crowd, though.

Every forum has its fringes.

3 posted on 03/30/2003 8:48:27 PM PST by Mister Baredog ((They wanted to kill 50,000 of us on 9/11, we will never forget!))
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To: John H K
The spirited resistance by the pro-Saddam in Iraqi might be a blessing in diguise. If we can kill or identify them all before we install a democratic government, we will be much better off in the long run.

I think the majority of the people just want to be left alone and live. This includes being left alone by Saddam and we are going to give them that chance.
4 posted on 03/30/2003 8:48:40 PM PST by U S Army EOD (Served in Korea, Vietnam and still fighting America's enemies on Home Front)
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To: linear
Yessir. 15 journalists are missing, at this time.
This is a war, not a sightseeing tour.
5 posted on 03/30/2003 8:51:54 PM PST by nanomid
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To: linear
They could have, but it indicates hope that most Iraqis are decent, friendly and not at all bothered by America's invasion to end Saddam's regime. It will indeed be a liberation.
6 posted on 03/30/2003 8:55:44 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: U S Army EOD
yes, I voiced the same thoughts a few days back.
If they all surrendered but stayed Baathist, 10 years from now they'd rise up and take back the country.

Kill them now, and they will never return.
It's a far more complete de-baathification process.

7 posted on 03/30/2003 8:58:46 PM PST by WOSG (Liberate Iraq! God Bless our Troops!)
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To: John H K; Diogenesis
Great article. Thanks for posting it. A telling comment was the remark about watching the Iraqis through gun sights. We didn't fire, did we? The Fedayeen would have and so would the RGs. Americans are kind; Saddam's thugs are murderers and devils.

As time goes on I hope we can discern the difference between the peaceful civilians and conscripts and the fanatics, and rid the country of the latter.

8 posted on 03/30/2003 8:59:59 PM PST by TenthAmendmentChampion (This just in: The left wing media lies! In other news, the sun rose in the east today...)
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To: Mister Baredog
It's a fringe some of us move in and out of depending on events and the mood of the moment. On 9/11 and its immediate aftermath, it wasn't so much fringe as mainstream.

It helps to be reminded that they have babies too, and see our guys helping take care of them. When all we see is the smirking terrorist/dictator/crowd shouting "death to America" it's easy to have glass-Iraq fantasies.

Goodnight!
9 posted on 03/30/2003 9:06:03 PM PST by ChemistCat (My new bumper sticker: MY OTHER DRIVER IS A ROCKET SCIENTIST)
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Thanks, John. Great article! I was delighted to read about the Marines starting the fellow's irrigation pump.

Just one thing bothers me. Hope the Iraqis' real names weren't given here. We can't be there to guard them around the clock.

10 posted on 03/30/2003 9:08:55 PM PST by solzhenitsyn ("Live Not By Lies")
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If the NYT used his real name, Mr Juwad and his family are dead people walking. That area is not cleared of all hostiles as the author himself stated.

The word wll be passed and he will, unfortunately be made an example.

The NYT did not do him any favors.

11 posted on 03/30/2003 9:14:42 PM PST by spectre
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If the NYT used his real name, Mr Juwad and his family are dead people walking.

That was exactly my first thought. Surely they didn't use his real name...they couldn't be that dumb. Could they??

12 posted on 03/30/2003 9:17:48 PM PST by 2Jedismom (‘And those who have not swords can still die upon them.')
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And not only that, they told where he lived and what he was doing...even if it's not his real name, he'll be found.

Are they crazy??
13 posted on 03/30/2003 9:19:06 PM PST by 2Jedismom (‘And those who have not swords can still die upon them.')
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To: John H K
Good article. I enjoyed reading it. I too, though, am concerned about their use of names. Hope these people stay safe and a big "Kudos!" to our troops!
14 posted on 03/30/2003 9:25:02 PM PST by kimmie7 (TIME TO TAKE THE GLOVES OFF!!!)
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To: John H K
bttttt
15 posted on 03/30/2003 9:37:55 PM PST by ellery
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To: linear
"If the Americans want to get rid of Saddam, that's O.K. with me," he said. "The only thing that would bother me is if they don't finish the job. Then Saddam will come back, like he did in 1991."
For some reason, this comment sounds so "canned".

They could have just as easily found themselves dead or worse.
I have such a hope for these people.
But, this IS war (rremember the suicide murders two days ago).

Out people have to be so careful.

16 posted on 03/30/2003 9:57:50 PM PST by Diddley (Those who have the facts present them; those who don't, rail.)
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To: Diddley
Out = Our
17 posted on 03/30/2003 9:58:56 PM PST by Diddley (Those who have the facts present them; those who don't, rail.)
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To: John H K
Very nice human interest story.

The slimes runs one now and then. I wish there were more of them in print.

The media almost seems disappointed when things actually turn out good. I detest the lack of balance in all media except for perhaps FOX. They seem to get it.

The others are blatantly anti Bush. CNN is no better than Aljazeera. MSNBC is running a close second and I cannot even talk about the networks. They need fumigation.

18 posted on 03/30/2003 10:06:27 PM PST by Cold Heat (Negotiate!! Blam! "Now who else wants to negotiate?")
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To: John H K
Bump
19 posted on 03/30/2003 10:09:25 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: John H K
I pray this is the turning point.
20 posted on 03/30/2003 10:13:02 PM PST by swheats
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