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Sarin Gas Kit found by British Troops
Timesonline ^ | March,30,2003 | Tim Butcher

Posted on 03/30/2003 2:01:14 PM PST by Dog

A stash of Iraqi training equipment for nuclear, biological and chemical warfare was discovered by British troops today, including a Geiger counter, nerve gas simulators, gas masks and protective suits.

One of the chemicals found in the cache was marked ominously both in Russian and English with the name Sarin, a dangerous nerve gas which Saddam Hussein is suspected to have in his arsenal.

The chemical appeared not to be a sample of Sarin but some sort of simulator used to test if Sarin was in the atmosphere. Nevertheless it was marked “dangerous to humans if exposed for ten minutes without a respirator”.

The discovery was made in an Iraqi ordnance facility south of Basra in territory now controlled by coalition forces.

Although it did not provide the “smoking gun” to support Allied claims that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction, it nevertheless represented a propaganda coup for Britain and America.

It showed that nuclear, biological and chemical weapons training was at least available to Iraqi forces.

“Until further tests are carried out on the vials of chemicals we have found here we do not know exactly what the material is,” Captain Kevin Cooney of the Joint NBC Regiment said.

“To my eye it looks like training equipment to teach people how to identify if there is something like Sarin in the air and what to do in the event of a nuclear attack.

“Further tests will have to be done and this is now a matter that has been passed up the chain of command for further consideration.”

The equipment included relatively modern “Combo Pens”, devices carried by troops who anticipate possible attack by nerve agents and which deliver a small but concentrated dose of antidote if punched against the thigh.

There were vials of atropine, the antidote for nerve gas attack using by British and American forces. There were 13 large wooden cases, some marked “Ministry of Defence, Baghdad”, containing gas masks, plastic suits and other materiel.

Perhaps the most worrying thing were two packets of thin, glass vials, each containing some coloured crystals, apparently with instructions on how to use them for detection of nerve agents, including “Sarin, Soman and V-Gases”.

The directions indicated how the vials could be broken and the vapour in some way pumped into a small hand pump which was then filled with the atmosphere that was to be tested.

A certain colour change in the chemical appeared to the indicator of the presence of Sarin, one of the most sinister and dangerous nerve agents, believed by western intelligence agencies to be in Saddam’s arsenal.

There were also relatively modern posters on the walls of the room, with Arabic inscriptions, depicting what to do in the event of a nuclear attack.

The building in which the material was found was located in what appeared to be a military training establishment with examples of how to build trench systems and bunkers, and how to string out razor wire defences.

This was a pooled report for the British media. The reporter is from The Daily Telegraph.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: illegalweapons; iraqifreedom; warlist; wmd
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I search to see if this was posted...didn't find it.

Admin Moderator move this if you feel it doesn't need to be placed in breaking news..

1 posted on 03/30/2003 2:01:14 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
This is what was found...


2 posted on 03/30/2003 2:02:09 PM PST by Dog
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To: Dog
A geiger counter? Hmmmm....
3 posted on 03/30/2003 2:03:22 PM PST by AHerald
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To: Dog
"No, no, no, that is just the kit used by some of our diabetic soldiers. It is very sad, that the sanctions on our country have made it so hard for us to get medicine."
4 posted on 03/30/2003 2:04:42 PM PST by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: Dog
Bump
5 posted on 03/30/2003 2:07:59 PM PST by Fiddlstix
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To: Dog
Actually, I would really like it if Americans were trained in what to do in case of a nuclear attack. Nuclear War Survival Skills, by Cresson Kearney should be read and understood in every home in America.
6 posted on 03/30/2003 2:10:28 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Because there are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Dog
In Arabic and Russian Well, guess we know why Russia wasn't one of the coalition of the willing.
7 posted on 03/30/2003 2:13:24 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: McGavin999
I'm wondering if this will make it to our news. My bet is no :)
8 posted on 03/30/2003 2:14:16 PM PST by JustinV
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To: Dog
Of course if the crack Iraqi Military with smarter commanders, and their super smart/loyal leaders and troops which are better supplied than us launched a rocket loaded with Sarin. This might happen:

Thanks to Diogenesis for posting this and pinging me.

9 posted on 03/30/2003 2:16:51 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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To: Dog
Although it did not provide the “smoking gun” to support Allied claims that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction, it nevertheless represented a propaganda coup for Britain and America

I could live the rest of my life and never hear that stupid phrase again.

If they found the gas itself, sarin, it wouldn't matter to people who don't want to back this war, or most especially, this President. We already know that "no matter what" War is not the "answer" according to Chirac & Putin. I'm surprised none of the documents found were written in French. Especially the nuclear material.

10 posted on 03/30/2003 2:17:55 PM PST by cgk (the Mrs half)
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To: Dog
Although it did not provide the “smoking gun” to support Allied claims that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction,

Well, that's the bottom line.

11 posted on 03/30/2003 2:18:08 PM PST by Physicist
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To: Dog; *war_list; W.O.T.; 11th_VA; Libertarianize the GOP; Free the USA; knak; MadIvan; PhiKapMom; ...
OFFICIAL BUMP(TOPIC)LIST
12 posted on 03/30/2003 2:20:09 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Saddam's days are numbered!)
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To: Dog
PAGING HANS BLIX, PAGING HANS BLIX PLEASE PICK UP THE RED COURTESY PHONE.
13 posted on 03/30/2003 2:20:32 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Locked on Fox.)
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To: Dog
How reliable is the TimesOnline for accurate information?
14 posted on 03/30/2003 2:24:52 PM PST by Conservative Me
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To: cgk
"smicking gun" "smoking gun" "smoking gun"

Just a little psychological terror. :-}

15 posted on 03/30/2003 2:25:11 PM PST by tiki
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To: Grampa Dave
Thanks for the pic! Just shows what I have been saying all along...LOL

We must have some Special Ops EWO (Electronic Warfare Officers) on the ground for them to do that? *shrugs*
16 posted on 03/30/2003 2:26:47 PM PST by Teetop (democrats....... socialist.........whats the difference?)
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To: Dog
From the piece:

"Although it did not provide the “smoking gun” to support Allied claims that Saddam Hussein possesses weapons of mass destruction, it nevertheless represented a propaganda coup for Britain and America."

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Propaganda!?!?!?

Idiots!!

FRegards,

17 posted on 03/30/2003 2:26:49 PM PST by Osage Orange (Hillary's heart...is as dark as the devil's riding boots.)
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To: Dog; Howlin; Liz; Mudboy Slim
Perhaps the most worrying thing were two packets of thin, glass vials, each containing some coloured crystals, apparently with instructions on how to use them for detection of nerve agents, including “Sarin, Soman and V-Gases”.

There's still time for inspectors to be effective...

18 posted on 03/30/2003 2:27:11 PM PST by Libloather
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To: Dog
Good job, Jim!

(A sight take off from the "He's dead, Jim!)

;-)

19 posted on 03/30/2003 2:27:42 PM PST by b4its2late (Age is important only if you're a cheese.)
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To: Teetop
Quite now.

I want the left wingers to blame the Iraqis for what is happening.

However, you may be correct.
20 posted on 03/30/2003 2:29:03 PM PST by Grampa Dave ("Those who are kind to the cruel end up being cruel to the kind!")
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